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And Roger Stone gets his sentence commuted. Good to be friends with Trump. Treating the presidency like he is a mob boss.

You have it confused. I’m on the side of not wanting people to die. I know that is perplexing for you.

Florida finally started reporting hospitalizations again.

Yeah, F the Constitution.

Ok. When Rs propose something like that I'll listen.

Economy: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/wearing-masks-is-now-the-most-important-thing-for-the-economy-feds-kaplan-says.html More confusion about antibodies: https://news.yahoo.com/research-coalescing-around-idea-coronavirus-194200542.html

What does "level the playing field" mean to you? The items you describe are trying to do exactly that. Or do you mean that we should do nothing and let it play out? I asked for R ideas earlier in this thread and...crickets. Except, of course, blaming folks for being poor.

I would say yes the white American in general would have an advantage due to the stats that I cited earlier in the thread about the justice system and unconscious bias. But perhaps more importantly the odds are that the going to be skewed by where these individuals live. Dense urban centers have a disproportionate Black population, gang problems, and poor performing schools, which are all relics of past racist policies.

I’m so confused. You accept that the racist policies of the past have contributed to the dramatically disproportionate socioeconomic status, but then make the leap that because there are no longer any laws as barriers, Black Americans are actually on equal footing and should go out and build wealth like others. That just seems...naive.

No, there was a huge decrease in deaths. But not anywhere near 230. That is a misleading, inaccurate number.

The consensus on this board seems to be that there might have been racism in the past, but that’s been solved and any problems faced by Black Americans now is completely due to their terrible culture and Democrats giving them easy livin’ on rural America’s dime.

No *Data during recent weeks are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.

No, cases won’t have the same correlation due to testing rates and self selection bias of those getting tested. However, it appears that they can be used at a bulk level.

It was highly predictable that they would go back up based on the hospitalization data. That poster was correct the whole time.

Those two stories don’t contradict each other in any way. Two different studies, vastly different methods and geographic areas. My takeaway is that even though NYC was hit very hard, only 20-25% have the antibodies and we don’t even know if that is good enough to ward off COVID-19 or its mutations. You do realize what the “novel” part of the coronavirus name means, right? New. And with any new disease there are going to be a lot of studies, and yes, some are going to contradict each other. That is how science works. Eventually you get to a place of better understanding and a set of best recommendations. Until then, the conservative path of caution should be the one taken. I’ve said before in this thread, I will be sending my daughter to school later this summer because COVID-19 doesn’t appear to be a danger to children and distance learning for early elementary kids is a cluster. But if new facts come to light I will have no hesitation in pulling her out.

The hospitalization data is striking and you can see a clear bottoming and deaths have started to tick back up.

I think most people agree that putting people in jail for using drugs is a futile exercise and harmful in the long run. I also think that it is absurd for a kid selling on street corner to be charged with a felony that will follow him around his entire life. Mandatory minimum sentences at the state and federal levels need to be thrown out.

I fully agree with this idea. But it is disingenuous to frame this as a republican idea and say that the Ds are against it. Ds aren't the ones that are for cutting benefits, Rs are. So, any plan that the Rs come up with, no matter if the phase-out is sensible, will result in a benefit cut.

There are no shortage of good ideas out there. They just need the willpower and dollars to come to fruition. The problem is that this is such an ingrained, multi-century issue that there are no magic bullets. Here's a few: My top idea would be about education. Reduce class sizes dramatically in low-performing schools and make sure that the facilities in urban areas are up to par. Ensure that public transportation is fully funded. Most urban, impoverished residents do not have vehicles and are effectively "trapped" in their locations which may not be anywhere close to where the jobs are. Stop imprisoning people for drug violations. Period.

That's an interesting theory. So, do you advocate that we change those policies and increase the payments so that married people receive an equal amount?

I haven't double-checked your number for accuracy, but if so, why is that the case? To your second point, I'll let my Pakistani SIL know that she's had no problems as a Muslim in America. Oh, only East Asians count. Got it.

Well, you have people like Oxbow who have apparently decided that it is the Black community's culture that is the problem, not the circumstances that have led to the various problems.

LOL. Snowflake.

In my opinion, there is a difference between being racist and being racially uninformed. Racism is an active disdain for others based upon their race. Here's a simple question, would you rather be born white in America or black? How about some easy data examples: Marijuana use - Despite roughly equal usage rates, Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana. Black male offenders continued to receive longer sentences than similarly situated White male offenders Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback. Then there are the other minor things that add up. What is the last time that a white person was told that they are surprisingly well-spoken "for a white person".