Frozen4sioux
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23 minutes ago, Brim006 said:
What's the scoop on Century kids leaving early or what's the doom and gloom about there? I see they are supposed to be returning 4 of their top 5 scorers from a solid team last year, plus have a returning goalie who posted .930 SV% in 18 games played.
And there's no way that's true about the WDA only returning 5 of the top 100 scorers in the state. Century alone has 5...and even if they are leaving Legacy has 4 (1 sounds like he's leaving), Bott 2, Dick 1, Jtown 3, Mandan 2, Minot 5, Williston 2. Of those 24 are you saying you personally confirmed 19 of them are leaving early?
You will hear about them all at some point..... I guess that kinda explains most of that, but it's not doom and gloom, kids are moving on and moving up. Is what it is.
Role players and assist points left there (and throughout west) but, Century might have 3 forwards able to play on a 1st line...maybe on a week-to-week basis that produced even a point last year.... But they will field a 2nd 3rd and 4th line that has produced not a single point at the varsity level. Tendy is solid but it will be up to what's in front of him as well, that may not make sense to you now but... oh well
Rechecked the numbers, I admit, I made a small mistake I thought the hockey site had 50 players per page on the top scorers, and I just skimmed the info quick off the top of my head on those kids, so the first two pages thought was 100 its not, it's only 30 per page, but after those 60 it gets insignificant quickly.
So, I went through "100" as I originally put up. Of last years top 100 scorers 58 were in the East, of the 42 in the west of which 23 graduated leaving 19 potential returners.
Of those 19 there are A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THAT HAVE CONFIRMED THEY ARE LEAVING, and more to come (camps just starting).... the remaining of those 19 were mostly role players and 2nd assist points, and not tremendously notable.
It is 4-5 of those top 60 will return, expanding out to the top 100 it will add 7-8 more returners.
I won't break those numbers down any further or name names, cause like I said it's not my place to announce them if it hasn't been made public, some have some haven't.
Team ND roster public announcements among other things will be telling on final numbers.
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1 hour ago, sioux rube said:
Jamestown lost 3 D men and their top 2 scorers. From my bantam team last year I see 2 possibly 3 on the varsity this coming season. Their junior goalie will have to be really good to get in the top 3 in the west. It can be done but won’t be easy
Anyone leave HS early? If not I was impressed with some of the younger kids hustle and drive and think they have some decent potential. Could be a really good middle depth team vs other teams maybe 1 line. They have potential IMHO.
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12 hours ago, Brim006 said:
Who are some of the top returning players? Minot losing a few to juniors I hear? GPR and DL have a few young studs but not enough. RR and GFC will reload no problem im sure. How are the Fargo and WF schools looking?
Looks like century and Mandan will be top dogs out west? Legacy losing a few kids early including their freshman phenom.
uffda...No., Century and Mandan will not be top anything out west it seems
You will hear about them all at some point but the exodus continues.... and we haven't even hit jr camp season.
The Bottineau goalie Lynnes signed with Wenachee 18U in the CSSHL, they had a chance to contend if he had stayed, bummer.
"As of now" the WDA returns only 5 kids that finished in the top 100 in scoring statewide last year, and there isn't a lot of bantams coming up that are anywhere near remarkable.
Jamestown is maybe a team I wouldn't sleep on, I would not be surprised at all by a Jamestown WDA championship
1-3 Minot, Jamestown, Legacy,
.....roll the dice 4-5 Mandan (2 tendys but nothing else), Century (what will be left by Nov?)
another dice roll 6-8 Bottineau or Dickinson or BHS
pretty safe bets 9 Williston 10 Hazen.
WF, GPR, GF are all losing big pieces but, in a surprise, to absolutely nobody, GF has the depth to reload
Picking anything other than a RR GFC Final would be foolhardy.
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1 hour ago, Johnny Five said:
Must've been 3 unbelievable apples!
Yeah, those camps just print money. "I wanna see where johnny stacks up!"....."It's the only chance for johnny to get noticed!!!"...
Take that $550, and in gas, hotel and food and there's your bottom line....and then when #9 for Austin snaps a twig on a one T next year, goes to the bench to get a new one, watch your money fly off the bench and into his hands.
It is a genius business model for JR teams. Funny thing is, college programs are starting to run "exposure camps" as well (at least women teams are I know that for a fact).
Men's teams in the east are big on this...
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12 hours ago, cberkas said:
This topic (ID camps) came up on college hockey reddit. A hockey mom asking if it was worth going to, some mixed reactions about them.
This isn't an "ID" camp its a very quietly held invite only camp that is purposely targeted at specific prospective players.
It's not really what you think about in comparison to the old UND hockey school camps or a Jr's or AAA camp
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On 5/17/2025 at 4:47 PM, Speez said:
From your post I'm guessing you had bad experiences with AAA hockey. Our families experience had been outstanding. Great competition, great people, great teams and best of all outstanding results from playing many years in AAA hockey.
Contrary, I think the experiences within the AAA Tier 1 Yout hockey environment was beneficial in ways but also full well seeing the predatory nature of the vast majority of the AAA world...
..EDIT: But in all retrospect, of all the options out there. If I HAD to leave..... I'd recommend finding a spot in Minnesota in the PW ages and playing the Minnesota Youth Programming and playing MSHSHL, thats just a better option, the BEST option for those that have to "get out of here".
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3 hours ago, Speez said:
You listed the next level in your post. I believe Tier 1 and AAA are the same thing according to USA Hockey. There seems to be some confusion on my part that some believe they are different. Any leagues other than "next level" are for players that enjoy playing the sport and maybe make a few bucks doing it.
yeah no , i worded that poorly
AAA is anything 18u. there's about 7? different "names" for different organizations that have loose affiliations of AAA programs but as USA designates it "Tier 1 Youth"...
but from "AAA" (which is just a label people can apply to darn near anything.... ah hem Northland Hockey for example....)
from youth AAA Tier 1 or AA Tier 2 .... what do most people think is the "next level" there kid will get to? I think fewer and fewer people are batcrap crazy enough t think their special little angel is heading right to D1 anymore..... so they must be looking at the "next level" as Jrs....
Tier 1 Jrs?.... USHL/WHL... not likely ( You're legit)
Tier 2 Jrs.... NAHL, BCHL? (you're legit but pay to billet)
Tier 2.5.... Some SJ/MJ/AJ???? ... maybe some NCDC....maybe (pay2play but masked as fees)
Tier 3 Na3HL most all other Canadian Jr A (Pay2Play)
Tier Your kid is dogshit and your money is the only reason they aint playing Thursday beer league at 10:30?.... i.e. USPHL?
My point is that there's really not much actual opportunity for legit "next level" advancement, (TIER 1 or Tier 2 JRs, with a goal of playing beyond that in legit college/pro leagues)
So the way I see it... and have seen it, 90% of YOUTH AAA/TIER1/2 is absolutely a gigantic waste of money and a terrible disservice to the kids, no matter where a team is located. The people that prey on these families; coaches, advisors Camp runners and the like are the used car salesmen of youth athletics.
So in summary 9 out of 10 kids who leave NDHSAA hockey are better off just staying home, saving the money (or playing Team ND and blowing it there if they'd like) and just enjoying the sport.
Or move to Minnesota early and play MSHSHL.
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48 minutes ago, Speez said:
From reading the posts on here about tier1 hockey there doesn't seem to be a lot of actual experience with it. All tier 1 teams have tryouts to make the team. Not saying that someone flashing a lot of money around couldn't buy a spot on it. Coaches are hired for their abilities to put a winning team together. You don't do your job, you don't last very long at it. As a parent, if you can't tell that your child has the love and drive to try and excel at whatever sport you don't know them very well. Unfortunately ND hasn't progressed into the modern era of youth hockey and allowed tier 1 teams to be organized here. Team ND 18U did pretty well winning the CCM NIT. That shows the talent is here to compete at that level just not the means to do it year round and promote more players to the next level.
So much loaded in the "next level" statement.
What is ... next level? College, Juniors? Then Tier 1 Jrs?.... Tier 2 NAHL?
Below that's its just a quagmire of mostly BS leagues that are nothing but money run businesses that are taking in from fans and... moreso families.
But take a look at the "Drafts.. these other leagues do and its 90% AAA programs that place these kinds into """" JRs""""""" which is mostly just stroking the parents desires to see some type of payoff for the "investments" they've already made. But those AAA programs place their kids at a much higher level than most other avenues, other than maybe whoever the advisor is for the West Fargo kids.... holy.
(the other 10%....9.5%... MSHSL 0.5% other HS, and ND is a fraction of that).
With how fast things are changing across North America in relation to JR" leagues, its a damn nightmare to understand it all. Alot of suckers are going to be left holding an empty check book and disappointed child.
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10 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
why?
Someone still has KEMDS
KEM derangement syndrome, get help.
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17 minutes ago, Wilbur said:
And Williston is now in the market for a new coach as Matt Ekblad has resigned from the Coyotes.
After hearing about some issues, and watching some things this past season, this is in no way a surprise.
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On 5/8/2025 at 9:49 AM, tnt said:
But our criteria of the name needing to be unique led to that decision.
Just think of all the possibilities if they actually held to the criteria. Sure, most people would still have resisted to some degree, but looking at this video, a lot more could have been done to get a few more people on board. Epic fail.
Committees....
The tool of weak leadership.
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22 hours ago, siouxweet said:
So Jace Panzer went ahead of the cherry picking phenom Bryce Mattern in the USHL draft, interesting.
The places a kid "will go" and what let other team know where they "will go" can be a factor in who and eventually "when" they are taken.
I wouldn't look that deeply into it.
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2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Why's it seem every GF team has a Bina, Marto, Burris, and Kunz?
Well when two people love each other, they spend special time alone and then mommy has a big tummy for a bit .....
yadda yadda yadda
GF is a nice enough place and people & their spawn stick around. The End.
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4 minutes ago, beastandco said:
If NIL was not a thing and the CHL had opened 5-10 years ago, I would absolutely think UND would be in the running for guys like McKenna and Misa. These guys will get more money individually than UND has in its entire hockey NIL budget just to play one year.
It's a fun fantasy to Ifs&Buts over but yeah.... It's not happening
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On 10/8/2024 at 3:19 PM, cberkas said:
So let a career victimhood consultant in the door and when she doesn't get 100% her way...... cries more victimhood.
Who'd a thunk' it?.
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20 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:
Neutral-zone is a terrible ranking site…even when we’re way up there it’s super flawed. Quantity is heavily weighted.
It's awful, "ratings" strongly influenced by popularity and by how many organizations they can tag in their social media posts. It's just an ego stroker site to fleece the academy and AA parents of another monthly fee. Its Jet magazine of the modern day youth hockey.
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ccm NIT start this weekend
could be some info or movements coming out of that.
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this 78 Grad thing has provided zero benefit to this board in any way, and frankly has spurred some really terrible unprovable stuff that frankly we dont need.
Maybe time for a vacation.
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10 hours ago, gfhockey said:
Win and then you have to be worried about it
The next time GF team bounces out and gets sent to Eagles, will be the last time a State tourney game will ever be played at Eagles.
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9 hours ago, iramurphy said:
What is your solution to adjust numbers/money to meet Title IX requirements?
Cut men's basketball or the bigger elephant in the room..... ND doesn't need two D1-jv football teams, especially in this new NIL era.
Why invest in nothing but feeder programs for the bigger schools?
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On 4/18/2025 at 10:26 AM, HockeyHawk said:
I don’t know enough about the grass surface but the facility itself looks dreadful when you drive by it. As I said the high school stadiums in town are better they should play their home games there Or just eliminate soccer altogether nobody would notice.
Bingo
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3 hours ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:
Don’t think it stopped just not a lot of energy or resources put into it. I would guess lots of text messages and zoomed calls.
Rumors guesses rumors.... lot of sticks being added to the fire but little facts it seems
also need to remember the timeframe of the coaching tenure, the years of uncertainty and changes in how business was conducted during the covid behavioral manipulation era, certainly had similar changes and adaptations in the coaching recruiting world..... could it be that selective memory is going into these general assumptions?
Who knows, id love to say just move on but it is important to learn from the past.
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21 hours ago, rockstar45 said:
I don’t disagree with you at all, I think everyone can agree the legacy BB left and that he is a great guy, but if what I heard about after he got let go is true….he does not bleed green. If he was actively trying to get guys to leave the program, he clearly doesn’t bleed green and is not “Sioux forever”.
Thats a heck of an irresponsible "IF", I kind of view the behavior of dropping these "IF" accusations on a rumor as just as pathetic as the social media posts of the daughter.
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Dickinson has hired Chad Miller to be the new boys Hockey Coach.
The once mighty midgets are now the Dickinson Mavericks after the old logo and name succumbed to the pressures of a woke society.