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This is only 100% correct. Everyone needs to see the mock up done earlier of Kelly green jerseys with silver helmets/pants in style of Ohio state. It’s only spot on what UND should do. Only debate would be what logo to put on the helmet …

Ya’ll looking into this too far. Win is better than a loss, but it took OT at home to beat a winless team ……

My recollection is this - the defense played like absolute dog-sh*t to end the game, but they did hold Indiana State in OT. The interception by Schuster late in the game just plain stunk. Good play by Indiana State on that one, tipping the ball on the attempted screen to Belquist. I guess that’s where a consistent running game (or at least a focus on it) comes in handy (don’t get too cute).

it’s a good debate, but going up 12 with an XP is preferred. Another mistake by Bubba … sure. But I’ll be honest I didn’t mind it at the moment, because I didn’t expect the defense to play like crap after that point in time.

Two points. 1. Support will continue. No one should threaten discontinuation of UND football support. I certainly won’t be. 2. We can still be disappointed in how poorly UND played. A win is a win sounds nice, but no one truly believes that. The last two weeks UND football has regressed significantly from a dominant performance vs NDSU to a blowout loss on the road to barely beating a winless team in OT at home. Players haven’t changed a ton, so this fiasco falls squarely on the group responsible for preparing and motivating the players; the coaches. I hope for the best, which is UND running the table and making the playoffs, but it’s very reasonable (and realistic) to prepare / expect the worst. with all that said, I think UND finishes 2-1 in the final 3, goes 7-4, and is actually awarded a home playoff game this year with a substantial bid actually being recognized this year. Then we get to watch a home playoff game that can be won … still, I understand the agony when considering what could have been after the NDSU win; instead, we got what we got these past 2 weeks

Might be a dead horse but also the elephant in the room

Coaches players or both?

I want winning above all else. don’t distract from that, but I also understand realism and probability

I hope!!

Pretty much a consensus opinion at this point; this is basically a loss. At end of year, need new leadership. All good guys on staff and such, just some need re-positioning. The necessary mental make-up / motivation of this team is currently absent. Need a new voice. Go Fighting Hawks.

Point being the current “group of old” ain’t good enough. Certainly does not only include the student-athletes, but also those considered the motivators and teachers on the sideline (i.e., coaches). As for today and your question: Romfo and Sawyer Seidl. Seidl could be the “hot” new fan favorite after today. Can’t count out Donovan Hunt, he shows up every time he gets into the game. Not worried about the stable of backs, more interested in offensive line play and play calling. I hate to be critical of Danny Freund (he’s the future much needed new head coach), but I honestly think he shies away from the inside running game too soon.

Losing 27 zip will do that. And the worst part is it was predictable (historical trend already had been set)

Crazy surprising score for GFC against 2 seed Fargo South. Meanwhile Red River loses by 1 in OT to Jamestown. Good players on both GF HS teams, UND commits and prospects. Need to wrap up the commitments from the prospects.

UND football as a program under Bubba has bipolar disorder … that is actually quite accurate. Good summation. Need new leadership to change it.

Sooner or later the old age will die and there will be a new dawn. Until then, we wait. Guess what? I ain’t goin anywhere - I’ll be here the whole time. Go Hawks!

No tripping. I stand by what I said. And you’re going to have to deal with it. UND wins this game. @ Murray State and @ South Dakota are where the money is at suspect win at Murray and loss at USD beat Illinois State back to 7-4 and again a bubble team … maybe get one playoff win if end up at home this year for once … lobbying MVFC commissioner all year probably will get them one rinse and repeat. Program is again consistently above average … but only a handful care about football championships for UND so no changes for decades to come … UND community needs to raise the standard. Will be neat when/if it happens.

Correct, I was never going to expand on myself via a public fan forum to a bunch of anonymous “idiots”, and I never said I would. I merely indicated the guy who called people on this board “idiots” is easily matched or surpassed by the experiences and capabilities of several others on this board, and I included myself. I stated I would put my experiences head to head, but I didn’t say this would be the medium to do it (especially with folks like you [@jdub27] on the witch hunt).

No backpedaling, just don’t want to go down a tangent of ridiculousness that some carry into. @iramurphy couldn’t help himself. He went full blown hook line and sinker on that post, and his “posse” backed him up. On this forum, we still have some (probably the older generation termed “cotton-tops” I guess) who take things way out of context. My guess is topics are going to get derailed easily now because apathy has set in. Easy to get distracted. UND football under the current leadership just can’t maintain the regional excitement: too ridiculously inconsistent, and of course god awful on the road.

Sure, Kelly and I agree. We can settle there and move on. And the whole “my pals” and “posse” take is ridiculous. I don’t personally know any of those in my “posse”, they just happen to agree with my comments every once and awhile. It’s okay we don’t all see things the same way, but for UND football to take the next steps, it would be nice to have a comprehensive effective vision that does not take 20-30 years to accomplish.

Sure. Whatever you say.

Pretty obvious it’s a lose-lose situation at this point given this shark frenzy. Last thing I want is escalation of personal attacks, but looks like you (and others) couldn’t help yourself and leave it alone. 360 guys do good work, but I didn’t agree with the blanket “idiot” comment, and yet, here we are. You’ll all be okay.

Pretty sure calling people idiots and not addressing the actual concerns is the deflection …

There certainly are some “idiots” on this forum, but we likely disagree on who is who. We can agree to disagree, but I’m not feeding into this frenzy of ridiculousness. All for what? To expand beyond UND football disagreements and foster an environment more in-tune to personal attacks. No thanks.

He is the guy who used the word “idiots” … but I suppose you still can’t get over the “fairy” reference. You’ll be okay. Move on. I don’t have to prove myself to you. You’ve had your day (or decades), now slow down and settle down. You’d think you would understand the concept of personal attacks in debates, and Kelly started this one by saying in general there are “idiots” commenting on here, I disagreed, implied we aren’t all actual idiots with my comment, but yet here you are. You took it literally, and you just couldn’t help yourself, could you …

Nothing like a personal criticism of the “idiots” during a discussion to signify you’re right … whether during a podcast or otherwise. Thanks again, ironically, for another one of your very own superiority posts. You wouldn’t think you’d be so insecure, but then again …