UND-FB-FAN

I hope youre joking about Huff..... If not, that really really sucks. Also, this wait for Jaron Nash is ridiculous. The NCAA needs to get their head out of their a**

Team wins on Friday, parties hard on Frday night, sucks it up on Saturday. Getting to be the norm so far this season.

This discussion really is circular because it is centered on the same goal: win

Best pure passing Big Sky quarterback vs. arguably the worst Big Sky defense..... I can't see this thing going the right way unless it is like the Montana game and we perform an aerial fireworks show.

Winning is by far the main priority and for good reason, but to ignorantly state NDSU's success has nothing to do with UND's attendance is a stretch to say the least - history and common sense suggest otherwise.

Until UND comes out hot with a 4-0 or so start and ends up with a playoff type season, ~9,000 attendance and poor student turnout will be the norm. I would love for the Alerus to be sold out every game and I think it should be, but you have to look at both sides of the issue. NDSU owns the majority of North Dakota and western Minnesota football fan interest, so that’s where the crowds go. If UND can establish themselves as being on the same level as NDSU, attendance and the general fan interest will increase. Let’s not be so ignorant and naive that we completely disregard NDSU's success; they will be the benchmark or standard many people hold for UND if they are to have general relevance. Other than the type of loyal fans, alumni, and students you see on this site and thread, most are of the idea that UND is 2nd in the state of ND when it comes to FB. That must change or be much more debatable for attendance to change. Another way to explain this theory is with an example: If next year NDSU has a losing season and UND makes the playoffs, what do you think the average 2014 attendance numbers will be? I strongly believe NDSU would see a decrease and UND would see that increase towards the 11,000 range we all want to see. [Ag school trolls, this is just hypothetical to make a point] Attendance between the two schools is a related dynamic. The schools are linked in terms of interest and following, whether we want to believe it or not.

This team's attitude is a joke, and yet we have people (100% biggest homers/dreamers in Grand Forks) that think this football team's attitude and demeanor will allow us to win a conference championship in the future. This team's leadership is sh*t!! If we at least played tough in every game but came up with a 4-7 or 5-6 record, it would be different, but to lose 55-10 and 55-17 to conference teams is absolute BS. If you guys can't see this, get your heads out of your a**. Something needs to change; if not Mussman, a considerable amount of assistant coaches and players.

SUU just beat EWU (#1 in country) and we just lost to MSU 55-10......................... Yeah, there's my favorite for this one

Umm, I think 5-6 or 4-7. Not likely we see 6-5. SUU is a good football team and coming off that a** kicking in Bozeman, this team will not do anything special against SUU. If we go 4-7, you've got to wonder...... but, I don't think it will happen (the termination)

I can tell you we took a step back in terms of fixing this problem with yesterday's performance.....

Losing 55-10 is something you expect when you play a big FBS payout game against a Big 10 or Big 12 power, not against our supposed conference rival!! We are terribly behind in many aspects and it isn't just talent, so don't think a year or two of recruiting is going to change this. This program needs an attitude adjustment.....desperately.

This year's Cal Poly, Northern Arizona, and Montana State teams would've ran all over us last year, just not quite as bad as this year. Last year's record was a joke. We beat three non-D1 teams so really we had a 5-3 season, barely.

The jury is still out on Mussman. This thread doesn't need to be active every week to confirm that; his coaching and his team’s performance today just reminded us that questions and doubts still should exist. Heck, beating a team with a 3-4 record at home on a last second play isn't necessarily convincing, it just gives you hope he’s maybe improving. How much longer do we wait? I'd say let him have at least one more year and see if recruiting while in the Big Sky changes anything.

In the beginning of the season, I knew playing at Eastern Washington and Montana State would be tough and could easily be losses, but I NEVER foresaw anything like a 55-17 and a 55-10 loss........................... I've stated my opinion on Mussman before and I wish he would do something to change it, but I continue to wait..............

Apparently Arizona watchmakers are overpaid, arrogant, and authoritative. Who would’ve known?

We NEED another quarterback; are we all that short-minded? We just experienced a season where our starter was surprisingly injured and our poor depth situation could've turned into a disaster at any moment. After all, is it not possible for 2 QBs on the same team to get hurt in the same season? Of course it is; we need depth and a JUCO or FBS-dropdown would fit in wonderfully. I still expect Mollberg to start, but to enter the season with only 2 viable quarterbacks would be beyond negligent.

Despite the overall negativity towards the defense (for good reason), I hope the D shows up this weekend and surprises us all. I think if we hold MSU under 30 points and we get a couple takeaways, the defense will have exceeded our expectations.

I could have a doctorate from Harvard and I'm sure I wouldn't be as credible as you, so I digress [verbal irony]. In terms of attendance, the state of North Dakota has a lot of football fans. They are passionate and will follow whichever team is doing well; after all, fans and people in general love a winner. Right now, North Dakota State has captured the interest of most North Dakotans whom will follow all North Dakota sports, not just hockey; exclusive-hockey fans tend to be from Minnesota. If North Dakota begins to win football games, coupled with game-day experience changes, the people of North Dakota will respond and show up passionately. This may be a bit cliché but let’s look into the past to predict the future. If UND wins and produces a positive state-wide reputation, fans - including students - will show up and support the team like they did before the transition.

Football had great energy and attendance a little over 5 years ago, so why couldn't it ever be like that again? Also, marketing and in-game atmosphere changes are noticed and do help (see NDSU entrance), so dont say that nothing will work and the attendance this year is a preview of the way things will always be!! You're lost so why don't you get lost.

Improving the atmosphere would go a long way because most current students are hockey-only fans; thus, they compare the atmosphere of the Alerus to the atmosphere in the Englestad. That results in a disappointment each and everytime. So by improving the atmosphere with better intro, better speakers, better cheers and student leadership, etc., student participation should improve. But, I think the most important thing is to just win. Most students have it in their mind that the football team sucks. After the 3-1 start, some were starting to see the light but then we dropped two at home in a row and now its back to "UND sucks at football, UND hockey is the only way to go!" If UND can just WIN and gain popularity, students will pick up on it and show.

Most Montana State fans, and I do agree with them, believe UND has a chance only if MSU starts turning the ball over. It's hard to predict that but with the weather (chance of rain/snow), anything is possible in terms of turnovers. I'd say the only change UND wins is if they lead the turnover battle by at least 2 turnovers, and there is absolutely no way they win if they lose the turnover battle.

This will be a tough game; UND will have to play a near flawless game to get the upset. I still don't want to see anything like the 55-17 smacking EWU put on us! After all, we are playing a conference game, not a payment FBS game against Alabama or LSU!!!

Need depth. A lot of stress put on the coaching staff this year with that so I can ensure they make that a non-issue next season and add another QB, probably JUCO but could also be a recruit. Hanson from Grafton likely won't be on the team next season.

NDSU's defense is unreal - I'll admit, but don't say the ag school has a unbelievable offense too. Lets not forget the only reason the ag school is no longer undefeated is because Jenson couldnt tell who was and wasnt his teammate in the ISU game; so the ag school's offense is simply above average to good. But couple that with probably the best FCS defense and its a winning formula. Oh, and mg2009, its no secret youre solely an Ag School fan.

Next season, neither Jake Miller nor Jer Garmin will be starting at RB; there will be a transfer or JUCO player - I can almost guarantee it. Mussman has made it known in the last couple of weeks that the talent level needs improvement. I'd say he definitely looks for a runningback, defensive back, and even a JUCO QB to add depth.