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Even with the nice facilities, the top recruits will choose NDSU, SDSU and perhaps now even USD before UND. Why, because results still matter more than facilities. The intangibles of coaching are not allowing UND to get the most out of their current student-athletes; hence, no playoff wins, minimal road wins, and a complete inability to consistently compete with NDSU and SDSU. With all that said, what you’ve identified is correct. Administration is beyond content with the building progress and fundraising efforts of Bubba Schweigert, the academic success of the football student-athletes, and the local angle. There is absolutely no desire by UND to be the best, and in my opinion, given football is ultimately a results-driven team game of competition, this is a crucial mistake and error.

I’m afraid going to need much more than Prep H … much much more

Well, if the preparation isn’t the right preparation … So many ways to dissect this, but ultimately the results are what they are and they are completely unacceptable.

Who would have thought that football staff management, and, overall, the football program, would be in a similar position (if not actually worse) now compared to 2013? Unbelievable, to a certain degree. No freedom to improve staffing is a horrible position to be in. Worst part was this staff was identified years ago as being incapable, my many, and there was communication to AD prior to extension(s), but yet, here we are. Complete ignorance.

Will two home back-to-back blowout losses to conference rivals South Dakota State and South Dakota in 2024 have the same effect that two home back-to-back blowout losses to conference rivals Montana and Montana State had in 2013??

This is what happens when you unjustifiably extend an incapable coach.

Not a bad concept at all, especially now in the era of NIL and transfer portal. Ultimately, a coach that can install a winning, disciplined culture will be the most successful, as the transfers and younger players still have to fight for what’s best for the team, and strive for championship excellence. In other words, the coach needs to be able to move the players away from individualism. As of now, I have a bad feeling about this situation. I think Chaves sits on this thing (again) and UND continues to be far behind the other Dakota MVFC schools. Hopefully the next couple weeks changes that… I strongly advocate that everyone who is willing to post on this board also sends a respectful message to University of North Dakota leadership (athletic director, president).

750k is nothing if we’re serious about our division 1 football program, and the new facilities would *suggest* we are.

Dosch is a Lennon/Bubba disciple. This defense is what it is with this group; no outside influence and broken. The entire defensive staff needs to be replaced, which technically includes the head coach since it’s his defense. Bottom line is we are at the end of a 25-year run of the Lennon/Bubba 3-4 defense. There were some highlights during the era, especially the early 2000s, but the last several seasons have been rough. All good things eventually must come to an end. Change is inevitable. I’m all for an open search for someone with no ties - UND football is in need of it: change and outside influence, but most importantly a winning culture with accountability, discipline, and expectations of a high standard.

Coaching change should not only be considered, but absolutely executed ASAP, likely at the conclusion of the regular season. Thank you for posting.

I’m okay with Fruechte if he cleans out the entire defensive staff. With that said, preference would be a D2 proven winner (Annese, Hoffner, Olszewski) or former FCS national champion head coach (Baldwin), and I’m not holding my breath with the precedent set by Chaves and Armacost and Bubba’s recently extended contract.

IMO Jake Landry is no different than Freund. Both former UND QBs who snubbed Bubba for a conference rival. Honestly, with how horrible Bubba is at coaching right now, I can’t blame either one of them.

I’ve been on record here and officially via communication with “leaders” for years stating Bubba can’t get it done if we want UND to eventually be a champ like NDSU and SDSU. I think Danny Freund would be a last resort. The options come down to what we pay and who is interested. The new facilities are getting done upon perfect timing to recruit a new staff. Early list: Jake Landry NDSU OC Danny Freund SDSU OC Grant Olson NDSU DC Isaac Fruechte UND OC Beau Baldwin (QB coach Calgary Stampeders; former EWU head coach under Chaves) Tony Annese (HC at D2 Power Ferris State in Michigan) Todd Hoffner (HC Minnesota-Mankato) Jerry Olszewski (HC Augustana)

I love Danny, but I agree, I think UND could do better if they actually held an open process without any politics…

Our coaching staff is horrific.

Well, UND lost to Indiana State so… And Indiana State lost to South Dakota today 49-0… UND plays South Dakota next weekend.

I believe it. Definitely include Andy in all communication with AD. I just don’t believe the AD is accountable. Unfortunately, I won’t believe UND leadership steps up to the plate until they actually do. Apathy and despair has set in, in full effect.

He won’t listen, or at least it will be condescending, in my experience; include Armacost as well in all emails. andrew.armacost@UND.edu

Most teams are when we play like that …

Went worse than I expected. Reminds me of 2013 UND season. Team has officially quit on their horrible head coach.

True.

My comments and their on effect on recruiting is miniscule compared to the product on the field (or in this case, the lack thereof). Want better recruits? Want there to be a more positive message board? Get better coaches that foster better results. Lashing out at me is nonsense and a waste. Place the effort towards the President and AD instead and push for the change that is needed.

Good offer - top local talent, so absolutely agree with this offer. Hopefully it’s not Bubba coaching him, though, or he won’t ever see what college football success looks like.

So why were these unwarranted head coach extensions put into place? You’re using a problem (buy out cost) to justify a problem (unwarranted extensions-need a different HC); you realize that, right? Two wrongs don’t make a right. If UND can fund new multimillion dollar facilities, they can campaign to acquire buy out funds for an unwarranted extension and an ineffective coaching staff.

I just read a bunch of distraction text here. Sure, those are good things (facilities, Alston funds, etc), but results should be of priority. Results, as in head to head competition results, are the basis here. It shouldn’t be win at all costs, as sustainability is critical, but the University of North Dakota football program has only had sustainability in mediocrity, at this point, and that is where my criticism lies.