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Oh, I see, so it is and isn't about the guarantee. Got it now . . . I think! Still listening ... and LMAO!!

There we go!!! There is the UND arrogance coming out!! BTW, yes we can, and BF (UND) is being made to look like a fool by GT (NDSU) right now, and I love every bit of it!!

But, but your very own BF has went on record as saying that it's "never been about the guarantee". I'll hang up and listen.

George Carlin — 'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.' And, in your case, I would insert "arrogant" betweem "an" and "idiot".

Oh, really?! I guess I didn't see the press leak from BF on this . . .

OK, whatever you say . . . BTW, let BF know that the '15 offer is still on the table and he should "do the right thing" and accept it.

You mean like similar to when you guys bring up Bobby B. and your wins over us in the TinShed over decade ago?!

So, similar to BF's demand for a H/H contract?!?!? Got it!!

You don't really believe that number for UND do you?!?! Or is that a total for all games played at the TinShed?!

You do realize that the H/H proposal was made over 2 years ago, and BF took over 2 years to respond, right? Ya, think things can change in 2 years. God some of you are idiots. Also, if this is a game that should be played for the sake of ND fans, and has "never been about the guarantee" why isn't BF jumping on the chance to play in Fargo in 2015? What's the hold up? Take the offer, and continue to work on future games.

I thought we were talking about the present . . . sorry. Whats' the attendance at the Alerus been of late?! Don't lie, because I was at the Montana beatdown last fall and saw for myself.

Can you read for substance. I said NDSU is like and FBS school "when compared to UND" right now. If you don't get that or agree with it, then you are not able to read for substance and have not seen one of the two teams, or both, play. Maybe I should have said UND looks like a bottom-feeder DII team to NDSU right now and you may have understood the meaning better.

Actually, GT looks just fine. It's Faison that is being exposed . . . but maybe, just maybe, it depends on who one cheers for. I'm going with that. I'm sorry, but things are what they are right now, and UND and its fans need to deal with reality as it is. Given the rivalry between the two schools (yes it is still very much alive) and given where NDSU is in football right now compared to UND, there is no way NDSU travels to Forks first. It's a pride and peckng order thing (and maybe even a bit silly), but that's the way something like this works. In short, UND is not just a "mere FCS team" to NDSU/GT, and won't be treated like one.

See above discussion . . .

Actually, you are about right with your last comment. And, I never said anything about my personal preferences other than if GT doesn't want to schedule UND, I'm OK with that. I would also be OK with him scheduling UND. IOW, I never said I was indifferent because I am not.

I'm not following you. We have an available date in 2015 and Gene has offered it to Faison. If you are suggesting that NDSU should go to Forks in 2015, you are crazy. Frankly, and not trying to sound like a dick, but that would be like an FBS team agreeing to come to Fargo first under a H/H contract. I know, no FBS team is going to enter into a H/H contract with NDSU, but, candidly, right now NDSU is like an FBS program when compared to UND. Bitch about that last comment if you want, but it's pretty much accurate. Also, my guess is Gene would like to leave one open date for a bye before heading into conference play.

Assuming you are correct, I'm good with this!! If GT doesn't want to schedule UND in football, I have absolutely no problem with it. Afterall, we have won the last three FCS Natty's without you on the schedule, and the FargoDome seems to fill up nicely when we play at home.

I'm good with that!! Also, another major factor in our scheduling is a much-needed bye week. If you look at our last 3 years, our bye weeks came at pretty critical/important times in the season. In short, there is much more to scheduling that just having a potential opponent "75 miles up the road" from you.

No, I think we can both say neither of us had top tier schedules.

No, the fact is you don't understand, or just don't want to understand. GT/NDSU want/s 6 home games for revenue purposes, and there is absolutely no need to stray from that. Faison needs to understand that is a given, and will not be compromised. He should work from that premise, not just throw willy-nilly years/dates out in an effort to make it look as though he is being reasonable, and so he can blind-copy the media in on his email "efforts".

Wrong!! 12-game schedule when we head to Weber so we don't lose a home game. Can't believe you have not heard that before, or perhaps you just don't want to listen. IOW, you are the exact audience Faison is directing his emails to-->the uninformed. Clearly the emails are meant for the media to publish, without ALL of the very important details of course.

Because your travel expenses are about $40-50K less than what Ferris' likely were? Not sure. Also, GT was willing to pay more for two games in Fargo, as filling our schedule early has value. That's my thinking anyway.

I don't know when the next 12-game season is. What I do know is that NDSU is not going to forego 6 homes games to play in Forks, so even a 12-game season might not be the answer, depending on our conference schedule and away FBS game.

If you are referring to one game at NDSU, then, yes, we would take the UND game. If you are referring to a home and home, no thanks--see my post above for more details. Also, if I were a UND fan, I don't think I would be dissing on NDSU's schedule. University of Sioux Falls come to mind. Also, Ferris State would have handed you guys your jock strap this year!!

I didn't say he has no interest, as the 2015 game in Fargo would help fill our schedule, but I don't believe his interest it that high, hence the lower number now that only one game in Fargo is being discussed and hence the "still negotiating" commment. Having two dates filled with two games in Fargo is worth more, while a home and home is actually a financial negative for NDSU as we would either have to give up a home game that season or forego playing and FBS guarantee game.