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So it's ok for Bison fans to predict what their team will be like, but not UND's? Ok. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

I think the underdog role will spark a competitive first half. I say it's 21-17 NDSU at the half with UND scoring on the first drive of the game. Depth and talent runs away in the end, however. 37-20.

Thanks for synopsis. I feel like I'm totally caught up. Can't wait for the game!

Again, I'm not arguing of their past... I'm saying that RIGHT NOW, they are a mess. UND, BC, BU, etc. develop NHL players just a well, if not better and aren't a mess right now. That's all I'm saying.

And I agree with you that they will eventually be just fine, never said anything to the contrary, but RIGHT NOW, why would a top recruit want to commit to them? Fabbro is coming next season and will probably be a 2-3 year player. So, is UW going to be good in the next four years? Maybe, but we know (unless something drastically changes) UND, BC, BU will. The latter three have all the amenities as UW, and better, and have current stability.

I guess I see it as more than "just one season". Sure, it was one year, but it was a disaster. They have lost recruits and have serious questions in their coaching ranks. I'll be shocked if they are any sort of a contender this year. I guess if the kid wants to come in to UW and try and restore the program, or that they know they'll get playing time, those could be reasons to play there. But my point is, why would a top end recruit want to go to a program who is giving the impression of instability when UND, BC. BU, etc., can offer all the positives without the problems?

1991-95 UW and 2013-2015 UW are clearly different places. If the NHL development track record is what he wants, he'll look elsewhere. UND, BC, BU, etc. have better track records of late and aren't in chaos mode.

Who's starting those rumors, Wisconsin fans? I just don't see a top end player like Fabbro going to a place like Wisco, right now.

I think about Mike Cichy, too. Great in juniors and highly heralded, but never really lived up to that potential at UND.

Why? Not saying I don't, I just want to hear your reasoning.

I personally liked Finley, but you're right, Chay was just a dude. Great guy.

Completely fair.

Lol right? Chay could do no wrong at UND in the eyes of the fan, while he was way more reckless and irresponsible defensively.

"Waste of space" does not equal former A cap, NHL player and current AHL player.... it just equals a player who didn't live up to expectations... happens all the time.

I'd say he didn't live up the hype, definitely, but he was an alternate captain as a senior and was a good defenseman. Sure, he made his mistakes, but people rail on Fins way too much.

But wouldn't that be a good reason to put them together, too? Boeser can create his own AND can get dished to.

I like these, too, but I think Boeser HAS to play with Nick. Just too good not to have a pure playmaker with what looks like a pure scorer. So, I flip Pogo and Boeser.

As BSV would say per this conversation... "Predictable response"

My first thought was Big Sky fan and then MN Vikes fan. My mind associates Vikes with MN and not PSU. I got you, Vikes Just so Vikes doesn't feel singled out... Anyone wanna over analyze my name? Lol

I miss him. Dang crazy girlfriends.

Ok... so, it's Monday after a long weekend. I need a distraction. I think we all assume Boeser will be the stud freshman this year with maybe Wilkie and Gersich 2 and 2a. Who else will be a quick contributor? I like Janatuinen's numbers? We looking at a Top 6 in him? Tomek time... How about Shaw? Anyone think Gornall is the next Steph Pattyn?

So cool! Atta baby, Mr. Campbell!

Ugh.