Bison06

But that's the point I've been making. If the antibody response is low with actually organic infection of the wild virus, it's unlikely the response is going to be better than that with a vaccine.

Why in your mind is a vaccine(untested with the vigor as usual vaccines for safety and efficacy) superior to people acquiring covid naturally. Especially when the vaccine won’t have a high opt in rate.

Nope just call them like I see them. You are exactly what is wrong with our country in 2020 and you're so arrogant that you think you are enlightened. You are a sad clown and you entertain nobody but yourself.

You are the biggest coward I have ever come across on a message board.

I’m sure your private conversations put on display would be about sunshine and rainbows right?

Yet you continue to take trump quotes completely out of context. Double standard as always.

And if you don’t know if you’re for trump or Biden then “you ain’t black“. What’s your point?

If this is true they might as well stop working toward a vaccine because it would be useless.

Anyone with a brain knows what he meant. When you are looking for reasons to “get him” you’ll find them because he is very imprecise with his language, which is a fair criticism. ”Trump said we’d be out of the pandemic by Easter” liar “Trump said it would be a v shaped economic recovery” liar We could go on and on. His language is wrong, he is used to embellishing things as a salesman and celebrity, comes with the territory. As a president, those things are unacceptable, I agree. But when you watch his speeches in their entirety, instead of what cnn shows you, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the intent behind his words.

Words have meanings, Trump needs to choose his more carefully. This is a false statement obviously, maybe he meant to say something about the risk of death being nearly zero, but as it stands his statement was false.

I really hope your persona on this board is a bit. I shutter to think that there are people in our country who actually think CNN presents the news without massive spin.

You mean the evidence many provided of other news stations making stories up?

Everything you don’t agree with seems to be made up. Just like two days ago when you said Fox News is the only news that makes up stories for their narrative. You have zero credibility yourself there pal.

The list of unknowns with this virus is as long as my arm including the concern you listed with long term complications. What makes you so certain that the testing that was thrown together haphazardly doesn't have a false positive or false negative rate that makes it somewhat unreliable. It certainly wouldn't be the first time a test wasn't as reliable as was initially thought and the test needed to be developed and refined. We have a 60 year history with influenza and understand it so well, comparing how easily we identify flu deaths to coronavirus is foolish.

Has it actually though? Until they distinguish between people that die with covid and people who die because of covid, I'll reserve judgement on the actual statistics.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm Influenza also has serious long term complications at times, this is nothing new like the media would have you believe. So tell us all again, what's changed? Viruses are deadly and awful with long term complications, they always have been. Why did we respond so differently to this one?

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser” -Socrates

It seems to me that the more we learn about this virus, the more the original comments from epidemiologists and state leaders were spot on. "We can't control the virus, it's going to run it's course" Social distancing, masking, anything else that's been proposed has simply kicked the can down the road as it pertains to herd immunity. Protect and isolate the vulnerable, the rest of us need to get back to life and increase the immunity among our population.

I can agree that I feel like I’m on a different planet than you.

You said all of the precautions have slowed the growth, cases literally have gone higher and at a faster rate since masking has gone into place. Your answer isn’t an answer.

Not one word in your repeating, rambling soliloquy did anything to answer the question I posed. I didn’t give my opinion, I simply asked a question that you have yet to answer.

Is that an answer to the question I posed or why did you quote me when you decided to rant like a 10 year old?

If masks and social distancing work and mask use is at an all time high in most states, why are cases spiking everywhere?

Don’t worry, hayduke will be here soon to tell you, “it’s not the same thing”

Or the entire CNN/Sandmann debacle for which they have now settled. Completely made up and they knew it