Bison06

You’re all over the map. Are you not seeing what life is like for people outside of north dakota? I had four friends file for bankruptcy in June, my son can’t go to school in the fall, my business took a massive hit that it will likely never recover from. Peoples lives are absolutely being shut down. Dying and/or having a loved on die, though awful, isn’t the only awful thing that a person has to endure.

You also realize that nearly everyone wearing a mask uses it exactly in the way he described.

That wasn’t your argument. Your point is immunocompromised people need the rest of us to look out for them, I say they need to do what they need to to protect themselves. We can’t all shut down our lives to protect them like we have with covid.

Well, here in Minnesota we have had a mask restriction for two weeks and schools still can’t open. So, as much as I appreciate your reasonable approach to the give and take of risk here, officials around the country don’t share your approach.

if you walk through the peanut butter aisle in the grocery store with a peanut allergy, is it the stores fault or yours?

Ok so if someone could snap their fingers and everyone, everywhere would be wearing a mask, would you be in favor of eliminating all restrictions on schools and businesses and letting people fight to get their lives back?

Immunocompromised people are responsible for themselves, they always have been. Covid doesn’t change that. We already have one in Minnesota, my guess is it will have zero affect on the cases.

Not to nearly the same level with what I’ve seen from the covid counts.

I realize you disagree with this, but as I’ve said, I don’t believe the death count is accurate as they are counting people who died of other things and then test positive for covid.

Most experts agree that there are likely millions of undiagnosed asymptomatic cases among us, which brings the death rate much lower

I suggest, as I've said from the beginning and what we've done with every single respiratory virus in my lifetime and beyond, we protect and isolate the vulnerable and let it burn through the healthy population. ie Influenza.

Getting the vaccine is going to be no guarantee either. And with low opt in rates(check some of the latest polls) we are banking on this vaccine being a panacea when it is just going to be another tool in the tool box. A vaccine rushed to market like this will likely come with more efficacy and safety issues than usual too.

But that's the point I've been making. If the antibody response is low with actually organic infection of the wild virus, it's unlikely the response is going to be better than that with a vaccine.

Why in your mind is a vaccine(untested with the vigor as usual vaccines for safety and efficacy) superior to people acquiring covid naturally. Especially when the vaccine won’t have a high opt in rate.

Nope just call them like I see them. You are exactly what is wrong with our country in 2020 and you're so arrogant that you think you are enlightened. You are a sad clown and you entertain nobody but yourself.

You are the biggest coward I have ever come across on a message board.

I’m sure your private conversations put on display would be about sunshine and rainbows right?

Yet you continue to take trump quotes completely out of context. Double standard as always.

And if you don’t know if you’re for trump or Biden then “you ain’t black“. What’s your point?

If this is true they might as well stop working toward a vaccine because it would be useless.

Anyone with a brain knows what he meant. When you are looking for reasons to “get him” you’ll find them because he is very imprecise with his language, which is a fair criticism. ”Trump said we’d be out of the pandemic by Easter” liar “Trump said it would be a v shaped economic recovery” liar We could go on and on. His language is wrong, he is used to embellishing things as a salesman and celebrity, comes with the territory. As a president, those things are unacceptable, I agree. But when you watch his speeches in their entirety, instead of what cnn shows you, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the intent behind his words.

Words have meanings, Trump needs to choose his more carefully. This is a false statement obviously, maybe he meant to say something about the risk of death being nearly zero, but as it stands his statement was false.

I really hope your persona on this board is a bit. I shutter to think that there are people in our country who actually think CNN presents the news without massive spin.

You mean the evidence many provided of other news stations making stories up?

Everything you don’t agree with seems to be made up. Just like two days ago when you said Fox News is the only news that makes up stories for their narrative. You have zero credibility yourself there pal.