Bison06

Haha, I thought the same thing as I pulled it together. Ridiculous money when you put it in the frame.

Jamarcus Russell 40 million in career earnings 7 wins, 18 career touchdowns $5.7 million/win , $2.2 million/touchdown Carson Wentz 128 million in career earnings 46 wins, 151 career touchdowns $2.7 million/win, $864k/touchdown Verifiably false information, embarrassing for a professional sports writer to be this bad at math.

But that’s my point, you bring up other Bison players. If you didn’t care that Carson was an ndsu guy and you are strictly criticizing him as someone who is just overrated, why no comments from you or others about the many other overrated players in the nfl? I’m just pointing out that your criticism must have at least something Carson being an NDSU guy, otherwise there would be other threads for the other overrated players.

If your criticism of him has nothing to do with him being an NDSU guy, where are the threads on this site devoted to the hundreds of other players in the nfl who are overrated, over paid and were drafted higher than their talent?

Carson wouldn’t even be mentioned in this conversation. Do a quick google search of all time busts, none of them had half the success that Carson had. Did he have the career he or others maybe expected, no. But, he played some really good football at times in a league that has chewed up and spit out countless stars at the QB position. Jamarcus Russel, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Tim Couch, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Vince Young. All much less productive than Carson.

It looked like the wrong call to me, but football games are full of questionable calls that change the final score, so I try not to play the what if game. All we have is reality, referees and outcomes are imperfect. NDSU did enough to play for a championship in two weeks. Wasn’t pretty, but at this time of the year a win is a win.

You seem like a fun guy

Mix in a water this afternoon

Again, you have no reason to believe that ndsu has an easier chance to win at sac st than at brookings. They both would be tough matchups and you thinking otherwise is simply bias toward making this “conspiracy” and “preferential treatment” argument. I think if we play sdsu 10 times this year we win 6 or 7. I’m not scared of them in the slightest. If that penalty doesn’t happen at the end of the first half, I think we possibly beat them by two scores. Sac St at home is exactly the type of game Ndsu struggles with. Especially with what I consider to be a weak back half of our defense.

You’re spinning yourself in circles trying to make this losing argument. What happens to your argument if sac state wins? Ndsu is on the road the way the bracket was set up. No conspiracy, no advantage, just good old fashioned upsets. You want ndsu on the road in the playoffs? You need to win games that’s it.

I guess we’ll never know. And if sdsu doesn’t get it together here, your argument falls apart even further.

Watched every snap and every snap of ndsu football for the last 20 years. I know what type of team gives us trouble and that’s it. Incarnate word will give us trouble too. QB who can scramble to throw and extend plays has been our kryptonite for decades.

Absolutely, this year sac state was one of those teams that I think gives ndsu a lot of trouble. They were ranked 1-2 all year.

What, other than you wanting to make your argument makes you think SDSU in brookings is a tougher matchup than Sac St at home?

If those two teams are flipped, nothing changes. This is the oddest argument I’ve ever heard.

Please… You make ridiculous claims in the hope that it’ll start a controversy and ndsu fans will show up and then you bitch when they do. Don’t act like ndsu fans commenting here wasn’t what you hoped for.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2022-11-20/fcs-playoff-bracket-predictions-picks-every-fcs-playoff-game-and-round?amp What preferential treatment? Flip ndsu with Montana state if you think that should have happened. You have the same outcome. Ndsu was set up to play a road game in the semis, just as they would have as the 4 seed. If sdsu loses today and montana state is at home for the semis, that isn’t their fault or some sort of advantage that was given to them. Sac state had their chance and blew it.

They were set up to play on the road in the semis, sac state lost. There’s no advantage here. You think they should have been on the road in the quarterfinals?

The reality is there are only 1-2 teams at the FCS level that can compete with ndsu. Home or away doesn’t matter. FCS just isn’t that competitive. Ndsu is a shell of its former self and outside of a very small group of teams, nobody can put up a legitimate fight regardless of the location of the game.

Why do you describe it as b*llshit? NDSU would have been on the road this coming weekend if Sac St could have held their home field advantage. What would you have done differently? NDSU as a 4 seed? That could have played out exactly the same as this year did with a higher seed losing at home. I can understand it being frustrating, but I wouldn’t describe it as BS.

I understand that, but don’t you think at some point it’s possible to overdo it with transfers to the point where the identity of the team and the university it represents don’t fully align? If most of the key players on NDSU’s team were transfers that the coach brought with him or came in from other places, I would feel differently about the team I think. I’ve never viewed any transfer player differently than a player who’s been with the program from the start, but if the scales started tipping the other direction in terms of the ratio of transfers, I think I would feel different about the team.

This Deion situation bring up an interesting discussion. Deion may have the ability to bring in a massive amount of transfers with his personality and name recognition. Hypothetically, if Deion brings in a whole new team of transfers with very few players remaining from the previous year, and wins, how would the fan base view that team? Nothing wrong with transfers, moving forward I think it’s an integral part of a college teams recruiting plan. But where’s the line in a situation like Deion and Colorado find themselves in? How many starters get replaced before a fan base would start to feel like this is no longer their team? Is there a line? I don’t know.

Without Belquist, who seems to my eye to have elite athleticism and skill, but may be a 4.5 guy(could be wrong here) you’re receiving core would be well below average.

I agree with everything you’re saying. Taking a big picture look though, 4.6 and 4.7 receivers in the nfl are the exception rather than the rule. To play at a high level at that speed you need to be elite at the other elements of being a great receiver eg. Hands, route running, situation awareness etc. Speed isn’t everything at the position, but it matters. As an example, running great routes doesn’t mean as much if a db can sit on routes knowing he doesn’t have to flip his hips early to cover the home run. Speed is an element of the game that drives fear into defensive backs. Getting beat for 10-15 yards over and over again is annoying and frustrating, but it isn’t embarrassing like getting beat over the top is. When lined up against 4.3 guys, a db and/or defensive coordinator is constantly thinking about getting beat deep and that opens up a lot of other routes. Coverage gets rolled that way, a safety gets rolled to that side over the top to stop the deep ball and that’s one more player not showing up in the run game. I agree with your premise, speed isn’t absolutely needed for success at the receiver position, but being scary fast can wreak havoc on defensive schemes without a doubt. https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/the-wide-receivers-who-ran-slow-at-the-nfl-combine-and-still-had-pretty-good-careers