fargosioux
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The last UND combo to do it was Jeff Panzer and Karl Goehring in 2000.
Proving once again that Panzer was robbed!
2000. Good omen!
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Here's my current brackets:
Bridgeport (East)
Yale vs. RIT
Merrimack vs. Miami
Manchester (Northeast)
BC vs. Dartmouth
UNO vs. UNH
Green Bay (Midwest)
North Dakota vs. Western Michigan
Union vs. Duluth
St. Louis (West)
Michigan vs. Colorado College
Denver vs. Notre Dame
I originally had Dartmouth in the West and CC in the Northeast, but you could justify switching them for attendance purposes, while giving BC the advantage of playing an ECAC school rather than somebody from the WCHA.
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I think that they re-seed the Frozen Four, so let's hope that someone knocks Yale out
Actually they do not re-seed the Frozen Four. The brackets for the NCAA tournament are set up to assume that all #1 seeds advance to the Frozen Four, where #1 would face #4 and #2 would face #3.
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Frattin is 2 goals and 6 assists from matching Duncan's numbers from 2007. Considering the numbers he put up against Tech this weekend, he could come close to that next weekend.
He's 12 behind Miele in total points. If he narrows that gap a bit and hangs onto the goal lead, I think he wins it. With no convincing argument for a goalie or D-man this season, I think it's going to be a 2-horse race.
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Looks like the Bemidji loss dropped us down to #3 in the PWR behind BC (for now).
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They have very good taste!
May be the best breakfast in this town.There's one about 2 blocks away from the Embassy Suites. I agree, maybe the best breakfast place I've ever been to.
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I am still waiting for my tickets.Fargosioux and RWD where are your seats located.Or anybody else that got tickets.Any chance we could be in lower bowl?Inquiring minds would like to know.
I'm a Priority 5 and I got seats in Section C33, Row 5.
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My tickets came in the mail today.
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Alot of people (myself included) think that the committee will try to get North Dakota in St. Louis. Does the fact that the CCHA is the host of that regional add any weight to a CCHA team (like Michigan) getting sent there instead?
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You really can't be that silly, you have to be drunk... Hey Skippy enjoy your team not being in the NCAA tourney for a second year in a row... Let's see Dell is so !@#!$that he is tied for fourth in the NCAA with 4 shutouts, 3rd in winning percentage, 4th in goals against average and has a .918 save percentage and before you go beating your chest your goalie only has a .919 save percentage and he has a 2.50 GAA...
This could actually be Minnesota's third year in row missing the NCAA tournament. Can you imagine if UND went through a stretch like that?
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Milewski posted a comment that Moy will be doing a new Bracketology in response to the fans' cries.
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Sorry I don't agree. My take is that the Number 1 seed wll play Friday night and the Number 2 seed will play Friday afternoon. The flexibility comes into play if Minnesota is one of the top 2 seeds. If they were either Number 1 or Number 2 they would play the Friday night game as they have in the past. This year they are most likely to play on Thursday assuming they make it to the Final Five so that leaves the Friday games already set up.
One could argue that the Friday afternoon game would be more advantageous for the #1 seed. You'd get to play your opponent on fairly short turnaround, and you'd have more time between the semifinal and championship game if you won.
Will be interesting, but I'd be willing to bet that when the "all-set" brackets are released after the first round, Minnesota will be assured to never play an afternoon game. I guess we'll see.
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I think the pre-set part means there isn't any flexibility.
I took it to mean that there won't be re-seeding after the Thursday games. In other words, the winner of the 4/5 game will play the #2 seed, and the winner of the 3/6 game will play the #1 seed, regardless of who wins that game. If this is the case, then they could look at where Minnesota is seeded after the first round and make sure they get the night games. For example, Minnesota gets the #5 seed, they could set up the 4/5 game for Thursday night and then set up the 1 vs. 4/5 winner for Friday night.
Again, I don't know for sure, but this is my suspicion of how it will go down.
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I do believe reseeding will occur after the first round and if I recall someone stated last year or the year before that the "minnesota rule" doesn't exist anymore and the highest remaining seed after the first round will play on friday night.
This is what it says on the WCHA site:
Following the completion of the first round, the six winning teams will advance to the WCHA Final Five at Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul. The brackets for the Final Five will be pre-set and the top two seeded teams will receive a bye. The 2011 Red Baron WCHA Final Five, set for March 17-19, will get underway with two games on Thursday on a single-ticket for the opening day. The Thursday games are set for 3:37 pm and 7:07 pm. Team No. 3 will play Team No. 6 and Team No. 4 will play Team No. 5.On Friday of Final Five weekend, Thursday's winners will advance to take on the top two-seeded teams in a pair of semifinal matchups on Friday with separate admission tickets set for 2:07 pm and 7:07 pm. As the brackets will be pre-set, the matchups on Friday could be different than usual. And there will no longer be a third place game.
I read this to mean they have some flexibility in who gets the night games. I could be wrong.
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I don't agree with Moy's brackets, but in his defense, there is this one guideline:
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Does anyone know how the seeding will work for the Final Five this year? If the Sioux make it will they play the Friday afternoon or night game? Is the Minnesota rule still in place? I cannot find any information on this and I am looking at purchasing single game tickets this year.
I don't think we'll know for sure until the first round is complete. It looks like the brackets will be set up initially, and re-seeding will not be done. I assume that if Minnesota makes it they will set up the brackets so they will play the night game on Thursday, and also again on Friday if they win.
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Wow, did Moy even put any thought into this weeks brackets?
First he makes moves to avoid a Denver vs. Duluth matchup, but after all of his moves, he ends up with Denver vs. Duluth again. Plus he has 3 WCHA teams in Green Bay.
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Chuck Schwartz agrees with my brackets this week:
Or maybe he copied mine!
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Who knew that when Yale beat CC early this year that common opponent criteria keeps Yale ahead of North Dakota.
Yeah, that loss to CC in January really hurt us. We'd be sitting ahead of Yale right now if we could have gotten the sweep that weekend.
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Who we want to stay a TUC that is near the cliff:
Bemidji State (.5007)(We are 4-0 v Bemidji)
Air Force (.5014)(Yale is 0-1 v Air Force)
Robert Morris (.5022)(We are 2-0 v Robert Morris)
Alaska-Anchorage (.5044)(We are 2-0-1 v Alaska Anchorage)
Who we want to fall off the TUC cliff:
Quinnipiac (.5009)(Yale is 2-0 v Quinnipiac)
Cornell (.5023)(Yale is 2-0 v Quinnipiac)
I didn't really see anyone that would hurt/help either team that is close to becoming a TUC. The closest being Brown(.4914)(Yale 2-1 v Brown) and Clarkson(.4913)(Yale 2-0 v Clarkson)
Even if Qunnipiac and Cornell fall off the cliff and Bemidji/Air Force/Robert Morris/Alaska Anchorage all stay on the good side of the cliff, Yale's TUC would be 8-3(.7273) v our (.7286).
Yale does not play this coming weekend and we do not play a TUC, so the only movement that will be made will be influenced by games out of our control.
Another thing of note I saw. After this weekends games against Mich Tech, we will end up with an (*) by our name for having a win not count toward our RPI as it would negatively influenced it. I don't think I've ever seen UND with this. But as someone else said, Tech is so bad, that losing to us would raise their RPI.
I didn't consider Yale opponents possibly falling off the cliff. Good info!
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Just swap the whole 5 vs 12 and 6 vs 11 locations:
Bridgeport
1 Yale vs 16 Atlantic hockey
8 Omaha vs 9 Notre Dame
Green Bay
2 UND vs 15 BU
7 Merrimack vs 10 Miami
Manchester
3 BC vs 14 CC
5 Denver vs 12 UNH
St Louis
4 Michigan vs 13 RPI
6 Union vs 11 Duluth
These are some tough brackets with really good teams...
You're forgetting one thing. No way the NCAA will allow for the possibility of an all-WCHA Frozen Four again. You switch Merrimack and Omaha and you take care of that issue, and you have better attendance at those regionals.
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yale doesn't have enough games against TUC's left that they can lose. best we can hope for is us winning the final five and they lose in the ecac semi's against a TUC(they wouldn't face any before that) and then we would still fall about a half a percentage short of flipping that comparison. I really don't think if it comes down to that the committe would put us number one based on their past history. best we can hope for is the number two overall seed. unless jim can come up with other scenario. another possible scenario is there be a surprise champion in in say the ecac where a non tuc or dartmouth wins it. then we would avoid the likes of facing a bu or even maine in the first round.
I think they could play Quinnipiac in the second round if there was an upset somewhere else in the first round, since re-seeding is done after the first round.. Quinnipiac is a TUC right now (barely). Then if Quinnipiac takes them to 3 games and they lose in the semifinals, I believe we could pass them. The stars would kind of have to align, but I think it's possible.
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When you think about it, that number one seed overall is a big deal. RIT or RTI whatever it would be versus a Hockey East school in Maine or BU....come on pairwise figure yourself out....
Agreed. Unfortunately I think it's going to be very hard to jump past Yale. I think they need to lose a couple games against TUC's in the ECAC tournament. In addition, I think we'd need to win the Broadmoor in order to jump them in the TUC record and flip our comparison with them. I have a feeling we are destined for #2 overall in the PWR.
Playing Michigan Tech the next 4 games isn't helping our record agains TUCs, which is where we need help right now.
Bracketology 2011
in Men's Hockey
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I tend to agree about placing UND in St. Louis, but I also feel there's a chance we go to Green Bay if we get paired up in a regional with Duluth, and there is a decent attendance outlook in St. Louis. In the brackets I posted, I think Michigan and Notre Dame would do OK in St. Louis.