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And that's the point...IMO right now, as of today, it's not one or the other. We won't be in the playoffs anytime soon and there are and will be still "name" opponents that will schedule us in the future. I don't see why so many are predicting immediate doom to the athletic dept. for letting the nickname issue continue to work thru the process it's currently in.

And there lies the dilema that UND is in now with the legislative involvement. I'm for trying any avenue to keep the name AND stay off the NCAA "black" list. Can that be done?? We'll see...

I hear this argument that "some" schools won't schedule UND, but to play devil's advocate, what percentage of overall games in every sport would that possibly represent? If UND now has a full-time conference affilation in almost every sport, the out of conference games that need to be scheduled are few and far between. In FB, we went to Idaho and got totally worked, but according to Mussman "we went toe to toe with them". In men's BB we went to Wisconsin and...got worked. Playing "big" name schools for a program such as UND really only gets UND one sure thing...a payday. Will UND pull off an upset of a "big time" school down the road? Probably, but they will be few and very very far between. Are there are plenty of "big time" programs that would and will schedule UND even with the Sioux name? I'd say yes. If playing Minny, Iowa or Wisconsin in FB or BB, is the "goal" here long term for our athletic dept....personally I'd rather have the Sioux crest on the jerseys. A beatdown by Idaho is the same beatdown as it would be vs. Fresno St., Iowa or USC.

Who cares if a person is Jewish or Catholic for that matter. Or his/her political preference or gender or ethnicity or race. You always seem to want to inject some divisive bent to any post or "conversation" you have on this board, especially when it come to the Sioux nickname/logo. Why is that? Is it because maybe you're so narrow minded and fixed on your own ideology and mindset? And as far as the good a college degree does someone...it's "there" not "their". You might be better off dropping some of your stones.

Good research here. Kelley is not what this great university of ours needs...an out of touch, leftist, ivory tower living, educational zealot. He DOESN'T get it...period. I've been hard on both Kelley and Faison, but Kelley is now becoming the obvious problem in this nickname scenerio. He has become a tool for the out-spoken faculty and the minority haters of the Sioux name. IMO, he as much of a backbone as Gumby. It's truly embarrassing as an alum to to watch and witness!

Since you have nothing of substance or value to bring to this conversation or agrument, you can have Jeanotte and the rest of his/your ilk help you off your glass tower.

1st two are deal breakers with me...can't get my clubs and remaining golf stuff in trunk...got to have priorities!

You think the C-class series is thinking a little to small!?!?

My 4th grade daughter just went thru this whole topic a few weeks ago in school. Really not a tough concept to grasp. Maybe the Jeanotte's of this conflict should review their elementary textbooks.

Couldn't agree more. The guy's a complete JA.

As well as last week's series was officiated IMO, this weekend was the complete opposite. Shep is a total embarrassment, but unfortunately he is the "gold" standard for this league...pathetic.

SOG 22-21 UND thru 2 periods.

Dell playing very well since SCSU goal.

Sioux been out of sync most of this weekend so far.

Agree and UND having a hard time clearing the puck in front of Dell this weekend as well.

Rodwell lays out Jensen with big hit to end period. SOG 13-9 UND

Mario takes a high stick...UND on PP. Sounds like lots of chirping from bench to bench per TH..."could get testy here soon."

Loose puck...Dell sees it late and Clowns PP goal...1-1.

Penalty on Hexy...TH didn't like the call?!?!

Goal was on UND PP.

Matching minors...4x4

Good PK by UND.

Cross checking on Rowney.

Sounds like SCSU carrying play early...