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Heard there was an arrest before the tournament even started. No clue as to who or for what but its never good to start your charity fund-raising event with law enforcement taking people away in handcuffs.

Anyone play in this today? Curious as to the celebrity's in attendance and if the tournament went off better than last year. By better I mean way less alcohol consumed and more golf played. Last year was ridiculous the way some of the people acted.

Perry was a wonderful father, husband, and man. He fought the disease to the best of his ability; he never quit. Not only did he never quit, he never asked anyone to feel sorry for him or did he ever let us see him feeling sorry for himself. As I watched him these last few years, he cherished his life, his children and his family. I appreciate the gifts I have more today, and I know many others do also, because Perry showed us that life is short and needs to be embraced. He was a good man and he will be missed but he won't be forgotten.

Has a team from the Summit ever won a game in the NCAA tourney? Maybe Oral Roberts?

Surprised we're only 20 back of Sioux Falls. The times I've visited there, great town. Weather, population, number of golf courses, etc. All kick our butt. If they had the Sioux, wow, what a town!!!

When you win it............let us know!!

My bad, I had no idea. The sad part is I didn't even think "ladies" curling. I was focused on the men only. Terrible.

I don't believe at the Olympics. Maybe the World Championships the year before but I don't think there were any UND kids on the Olympic Curling teams.

If Kansas couldn't find a conference, how was ISU going to find one? The Big 12 would love to see ISU get out and they'd try to bring in an Arkansas or someone like that.

Lets keep it in the past 12 months. Kristo and Blais for sure at the World Jrs. The U.S. team at the IIHF, not so much. They lost to Germany. Can we mention Kleinsasser playing for an NFC Championship?

Agreed, great year for our alumni and future alumni. I bet if everyone put their heads together we could come up with some accomplishments outside the realm of sports where alum have shined over the last 12 months also. Lets see what/who we can find. I'll start with Weston Dressler and the marvelous year he had in the CFL.

A player, of course. A roster with 8-10 players, no. No one has ever said we shouldn't try and get the local players that have DI talent, or even potential. I am of the opinion that we currently have too many players without DI talent. We can all find the "one" diamond in the rough but to build a DI team that can go to the National tournament, like SDSU, you have to recruit and win the recruiting battles against other DI schools like SDSU, NDSU, Creighton, Northern Iowa, etc. You may even have to win a kid from a Big 10 school. We haven't done that yet and probably won't until we're in a better conference and eligible for the National Tournament.

You are correct, they did yield 2 very good players. In the history of UND Women's basketball, I don't think your logic holds much water either. I've been around basketball for many years, I know DI talent when I see it. If you believe UND will win conference titles in a league besides the one they're in now with kids from Belcourt, Fort Yates, etc. you go right ahead and believe that. When I tell you that the recruiting base needs to be Minneapolis, the state of Wisconsin, and other neighboring highly populated states, you should trust me that I know what I'm talking about.

We haven't had great success with NoDak kids lately in the program; don't seem to pan out and be the legit DI players we need to win. Hope one or both of these work out for UND but I'm going to have to see it to believe it.

There isn't anything special about Arizona Juco basketball. Lot's of juco teams from North Dakota have gone to Arizona and competed very well. I'm sure they aren't anything better or worse than the kids who play at Lake Region, Williston, or even Wahp. Science for that matter.

Agree. ISU would be low end BCS for sure.

I was thinking strange in terms of who has done more lately. Ben has beaten Iowa and Iowa St. the last 3 years, coached in 2 NCAA tourney's and beaten Kansas. Mac is good but just hasn't been on much of a hot streak the last few years.

Not sure its fair to say he "underperformed" at ISU. Wesley Johnson leaving was a bad deal. Not being able to keep Harrison Barnes in town was another bad deal. Those 2 guys would have made a huge difference in the program. I think Mac found out that mid-major and high major bball is really 2 different worlds. I'm glad he got to leave before they threw him out. He'll win at Creighton and they'll like him in Omaha. Rumor is 10 years at $900,000/year. I think he'll be ok. Still double the money Ben is getting at Northern Iowa. That seems a little strange.

It would be interesting to see if Montana made more money from their "1 and done" basketball experience in the NCAA tourney or from a runner-up finish in the I-AA championship game for football team. I bet it isn't close. The idea that competing with Big 10 schools and Big 12 schools really doesn't hold anymore water for football than it does for basketball. The interest generated by either would be the same in my opinion. When it comes to recruiting, both football and basketball in the MVC and Horizon are working with 1 hand tied behind their back.

Like I said earlier, the MVC is a BASKETBALL conference first and a FOOTBALL conference second. The revenue they generate from being successful in basketball is way bigger than football in I-AA (or whatever they call it). The NCAA money for the "March Madness" trickles to all those schools, even if they don't make the tourney. There is no big money for the I-AA playoff system. We are doing it backwards up here by making football our "cash cow" and playing at a lower sub-division. We should be emphasizing basketball if we're trying to generate revenue.

You all realize that even with Ben's new contract at UNI, he's still only the 3rd highest paid coach in the MVC!! The guy at Creighton and the guy at Southern Illinois both make more than Ben's $450,000. We don't have and probably never will have the resources being kicked around for bball in the MVC, or the Horizon for that matter. Recruiting to Vermillion, Brookings, Fargo, and GF is not going to be easy and with all the DI schools that exist in the midwest, we aren't going to win many battles with the teams from either the Horizon or the MVC. I know SU likes being in the conference they're in for football but, truth be told, those schools are bball schools more than football schools. Being DI, we are going to have to choose which program we give our resources to. I don't think its going to be bball.

For those of us who are bball fans before football fans the Horizon or MVC would be way better leagues to be in than the Summitt. The Summitt isn't anything special for athletics. Its a bunch of DI wannabe's that need to limit costs/overhead so they can say they're DI. One team a year will get to the dance. The same might be true for the Horizon and MVC but the level of competitiion on a weekly basis is even close to comparable.

Question answered!!!! Over

The game isn't over but this looks all too familiar................again. Every time we go east of the Mississippi River we look like the slowest team in the tournament. Frustrating, no doubt

Biggest reason I disagree is now is the the time for Ben to set himself financially for the rest of his life. He can coach in the Big 10. The athletes he wants for the style of play he likes will come to him at a Big 10 school. He can triple his salary, get a 5 year deal, and be set. Its the right time to go if its the right job.