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I think UND could choose to fly in earlier, but they'd have to pay for the extra day(s) in the hotel and for the extra meals.

My god, some of you are more insecure than Bison fans, and I thought that was impossible. What is the purpose of his article? That NDSU might get a bunch of different teams in the Fargodome this year instead of the same old, same old. So he ends the article with a scenario of three teams we've never seen in the playoffs before. That's not even close to the same thing as predicting a UND loss in the actual game. Here's the quote in full context:

Wait a minute. Are you getting that from this?: https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/4785755-McFeely-And-now-for-something-almost-completely-different

Not so much. They can do some stuff, but the modern era includes having proof of ticket sales and the like. But it is why you see playoff attendances that are so much lower than season averages. It's not that the schools are gaming the NCAA so much as being honest and not fudging the numbers like they do during the season. (I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way.)

Regarding music being played on offense or defense: When music is playing, people tend to not make as much noise. Speakers are pointed to the stands, mouths are pointed to the field. I would consider playing music when UND is on offense to keep people from yelling, then turn it off when UND is on defense and use the boards and announcer to encourage the crowd to fill that silence with noise of their own. At least those sound waves will be traveling in the right direction. The band can be a positive if they have a good selection of shorts(2-10 seconds each), but they need a drum major or director that understands football in order to insert the right short at the right time. (That's actually how I became a FB fan - I was a drum major at NDSU for two years and needed to learn the basics of FB in order to do my job. Some DMs did, some didn't; I wanted to be one that did.) I would say the biggest problem(for every FB program, not just yours) is that you need a very unique person running things in the control room. To be really successful, they almost need to have a theatre background or something like it in order to understand how to pull everything together for an audience. But at the same time, they need to completely understand football. Not a typical combination of traits. And in a modern control room, you have so much technology to work with, so you have to add being a techie to that list of traits. Now that's a real tough combination to find; I've found them to be almost mutually exclusive. (which is also why local sports broadcasts often suck so much)

OF THE NET. CAS was mostly right in what he said(his math was off a bit). If you solidly estimate the net will be $160k, you might as well bid $120k(or 75% of $160k). In fact, that's what the NCAA asks you to do.

Maybe for the first round. The article states that bidding by the bigger boys starts at $200k and goes up from there.

The committee pairs up all first round teams that are within 400 miles. There are going to be leftovers after that that need to be paired up however it works. When you're up where we are, you're normally one of the leftovers. If SDSU had been unseeded, the rules would have required them and UND to be paired up. But with SDSU a seed, there are no first round teams within 400mi of GF. So you go where they need you to. Not to mention that there weren't many unseeded western teams.

Which other first round team was within 400mi of GF? I'll hang up and wait. It's almost like most of you don't bother to read the bracketing guidelines the committee has to work with. ... Oh wait, it's because most of you don't bother to read the bracketing guidelines the committee has to work with. <shakes head>

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. <insertgeicoimage>

You were one of the last four. The four were in alphabetical order.

I stopped watching midway through the 4Q. ISUr had 7 yards passing at the time. And not because they weren't trying to pass. Uffda.

Well, color me surprised. Both on SDSU & UCA.

20mins from now on ESPNU (barring the MBB game going long).

Did you watch any of the Illinois St/Youngstown St game? If you thought injuries hurt SDSU, they were nothing compared to what they did to ISUr. Wowsers that was bad.

Yep. I think SDSU could have handled losing Strong(RB) OR Gibbs(QB), but not both.

Outside looking in. They'll be the 9th team. If we knew for a fact that their RB would make it back for the second round, they'd get a seed, but they're just too weak without him. 95% chance it will be UND and SDSU in the first round, with the winner coming to Fargo.

Andrew Armacost, Laurie Stenberg Nichols and David Rosowsky https://www.inforum.com/news/education/4783196-Three-finalists-named-for-UND-president

FIFY

You might be correct, but I think I might have been thinking of Georgia Southern in 2010. Back then, it was a 20-team field with the top-5 seeded. Georgia Southern was unseeded and slotted to face (2)William & Mary in the second round(after facing SCSU in the first). They upset W&M to face also unseeded Wofford in the third round. Since both teams were unseeded, the game would be hosted by the school with the winning bid. Except the Georgia Southern AD never submitted a bid. So the hosting went to Wofford by default. https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?79953-The-George-Anne-has-confirmed-that-GSU-didn-t-even-bid&highlight=sam+baker

All rounds are bid. Among other things, what happens in the third round if the 4 and 5 seeds both lose in the second? And as for the seeds, they still have to submit a bid regardless. The bid isn't just about the money, it's also all the documentation about facilities, insurance, equipment, etc., etc., etc. Even if you received a seed, if you didn't submit a bid, you won't host the game. The higher seeded team will automatically win the bid as long as they at least bid the minimum, but you still have to submit the paperwork.

I know what you mean, but you still have to bid. I believe it was sometime in the last decade that a seeded team ended up traveling to an unseeded team because the AD didn't submit even a minimum bid. And NDSU's bid is likely in the $700k-$900k range for rounds 2-4. I'm assuming this because I've heard NDSU makes about $300k profit on each of those games. If NDSU is getting around 25% of the net, that would put the NCAA's share around at $900k per game. Then figure that NDSU would bid under that amount just in case. Prelim round is likely bidded far less because a sellout is very unlikely due to the short notice and proximity to Thanksgiving.

I don't think I've ever seen the actual bid numbers, so I wouldn't know. For a lot of programs, I think it boils down to how much of a loss you can take and not ruin your athletic budget for the spring.

The NCAA takes 75% of the net receipts or the bid amount, whichever is higher. Ticket prices are set by the school. There is no minimum ticket price for the prelim round, but all subsequent rounds must not be lower than the lowest face value during the season. No complementary tickets may be given out. Bands from either school do not have to pay. I believe regular students must pay to get in, but that the NCAA allows student ticket sales to be set at $5. However I can't find that in the manual so I could be wrong or it could have been changed. In the past, NDSU has purchased a block of those $5 tickets themselves, then given them to students for free. Minimum bids per round are: Prelim - $30k, 2nd - $40k, Quarters - $50k, Semis - $60k. Of course, those are only minimums, and you're not likely to win a bid with them. https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/football/d1/2019-20D1MFB_PrelimRndHostOpsManual.pdf https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/football/d1/2019-20D1MFB_BidChecklistInfo.pdf

Everything UWGB is buried in here: https://www.uwgb.edu/from-the-beginning/chronology/ (I'd use ctrl-f to find what you need) Also a quick look at the UWGB MBB wiki page would have shown the times they were in the NAIA, DII, & DI national tournaments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Phoenix_men's_basketball Just going to the FGCU athletics wiki page gives you everything you need in the 2nd paragraph. And the FGCU athletics website has every sport schedule listed back to the beginning. You can see when they added sports. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gulf_Coast_Eagles