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23 hours ago, SiouxDini said:
He will play defense.
Langstaff told Dom Izzo he is going to play OL, not defense.
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13 hours ago, SiouxDini said:
I believe both are PWO. SDSU had interest in Langstaff.
Not possible. SDSU doesn't recruit North Dakota.
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7 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
Impressive, such high morality and political correctness, can never question anyone or anything, especially Bison Dan.
Bison Dan hyped a local player that has averaged around .2 receptions per game. (lives 25 miles from Fargo, how did they land him!!)
Big local news story 3 years ago!! Could be a break-out year for the kid in 2018. Stay tuned!!
It was a big local story because the kid had a Big 10 offer and chose NDSU. It is a big local story in GF when a UND commit has one other FCS offer and chooses UND. Some kids are willing to sit a year or two to go to a program that wins and develops players in the long run. Elefson probably had a pretty good idea he would have to wait his turn, He may never be the one go to TE with Jensen this year and Gindorff in the wings and how NDSU spreads it out to all of their receivers, tight ends and backs. That doesn't mean he is a bust or not any good. NDSU has had players that don't see the field in their first 2 or 3 years and end up in the NFL.
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On 7/21/2018 at 1:22 PM, jdub27 said:
With their success, NDSU has expanded their recruiting footprint, though they obviously still get a good portion of local talent. The South Dakota schools and UNI don't recruit ND and Minnesota outside of the MSP area, so not seeing some of these kids have other offers is not surprising. The majority of them have been to multiple camps and the staff has had plenty of time to see them.
UNI and both SD schools found and offered Yohnke this year and Elefson and Gindorff recently, so yes, they do recruit Northern MN.
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41 minutes ago, UND Fan said:
Huge day/weekend - hopefully, we will receive some significant commitments in the next few days.
Quantity-wise, we are ahead of last year going into the second elite camp. Four last year compared eight this year. Last year, we had 11 commitments at the end of July.
Quantity doesn't really mean anything, quality is the most important factor. The kids who have committed thus far (other than Reviere) have not been highly recruited at all. That doesn't mean they won't be fine players but I would sure like to sign some of the prospects that many are after!
Nobody really knows how good kids are going to be until they get on campus and get a couple of years into the program. But, does it concern you that all 8 of UND’s commitments are from regions heavily recruited by area MVFC schools (NDSU, SDSU, UNI, USD), and none of them have an offer from any of those schools. I think 7 of the 8 have no other D1 offers.
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41 minutes ago, UND-1 said:
NDSU thought the slightly slower, less athletic TE's in Fargo were better. Or they didn't want to get beat out publically so they didn't offer due to his name. Or both.
I guess I will trust Klieman and his staffs evaluations of talent and potential.
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1 minute ago, shep said:
Did he get offers from other MVC schools?
I don't know, but I would guess not. Tom Miller would have led with it in his column if they had beat out anybody for him.
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57 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
The top
Must be a bad year for LB's in MN. If you believe Gopherhole, there is exactly one D1 offer for LB's in the State of MN this year, and that is the one from UND to Navratil.
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7 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:
The state gives every school a set amount of money based on student credits. What each school does with that money is up to the school.
Then why won’t the state allow the schools to use state money for athletic facilities?
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11 hours ago, UND-1 said:
Why are you worried about it?
Just wondering why the State of ND would fund athletics at UND to the tune of $8 million compared to $4 million at NDSU? Seems like both should be equal.
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On 6/29/2018 at 9:25 AM, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:
The revenue column that raises Kennedy's eyebrow in these challenging financial times is "School Funds".
Where are the concession $, parking fees, etc; or is there an accounting misfire.
My question is why is UND so reliant on funds from the state? 43% compared to 29% for NDSU. You are right, if the state continues to lower funding to Higher Ed, it will affect UND much more than NDSU.
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18 minutes ago, FSSD said:
Again, one of the advantages of having the current setup is that UND could use bonds for the building of the Betty. UND didn't have to wait for all the fund raising like NDSU and BSA.
http://www.theralph.com/about-the-arena/the-betty
$8 million dollar facility
Current balance: 1.4 million - maturity date of 2020.
To all the Bison fans - have you paid the Fargo Dome for the upgrades completed as part of the move to FCS? Just asking for a friend.
The Fargodome is actually generally profitable and pays for most upgrades on their own, and they don't take 52% of the FB, BB and VB ticket revenue. I know, I don't get it. It really does take collecting 52% of all ticket revenue from a school to make n arena function. UND is on the cutting edge and when all other schools realize they are doing it wrong, they will feel like fools. But I for one am sure glad NDSU didn't get the kind of "donation" UND got from the Engelstad's.
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23 hours ago, Walsh Hall said:
You do realize there are expenses relating the ticketing/accounting... that entail the 52/48 breakdown? You do realize that if the REA wasn't handling the duties that there would be expenses to hire all the staff and other related expenses to get this done? There is a difference between gross income and net income.
To think the hockey program is the beneficiary of this "issue" is laughable. To think the football program is harmed by this issue is laughable.
The football team needs to get better. Getting better has zero to do with the this ticketing issue and the hockey team/REA.
I do realize that there are expenses to selling tickets. But if those expenses are costing you 52% of the ticket revenue, you are doing it wrong. The staff at the REA selling FB tickets will be there anyway selling for other events. If it would take say 5 to 10% that would be reasonable for FB tickets. If UND hired one or two people to sell FB tickets on their own, maybe it would cost them 15 to 20%, not anywhere close to 52%.
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14 hours ago, darell1976 said:
I jumped into the boat that had the point of all ticket sales for football should NOT be in the hands of the REA but into the hands of the university and the Alerus. I know you don’t agree with that but that’s my view and his view and the view of others and you can make fun of those who don’t agree with you, just says a lot of your character.
I would just ask supporters of this ticket revenue practice to find other D1 schools that have 52% of their ticket revenue taken off the top by the venue they PLAY THE EVENTS in, much less events they have nothing to do with putting on the event. It is a fair question.
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4 hours ago, darell1976 said:
UND still has the Hyslop so technically they still have a home for basketball and volleyball. But it won’t come to that as they both need each other.
That is true, but my guess is if UND threatened to move BB and VB, the REA’s response would be “where are you going to play hockey”. But you are right, they both need each other.
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9 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said:
OMG how hard is this for you to understand.
0.0% OF THE TICKET REVENUE LEAVES UND!
The ENGELSTAD foundation is generously donating money that WAS NOT GENERATED BY UND ATHLETICS!!!!!! or ever associated with teh Ralph Engelstad Arena!!
This has been explained and proven numerous times on here and sheeple just jeep returning to trying to push a narative of money being misdirected by some "evil" organization.
Pathetic.
I get it now. I wouldn't have pegged the Engelstads as re-distributionists, but that is what they are doing. They want to collect most of the athletic revenue at UND and then donate the extra revenue, after all of their expenses are covered, back to UND so they can earmark it for the hockey program, Genius.
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2 hours ago, Cratter said:
The former administration also agreed to it, must not be nearly as bad in the big picture as some people think.
Because they wanted the arena so badly they would have agreed to anything. Now they need The Ralph and The Betty so badly they have to agree to anything the REA puts in front of them. Hockey, volleyball and mens and womens basketball would be without a home without them. UND has ZERO bargaining power and the REA is taking full advantage, But don't worry, I am sure the REA will use some of that FB ticket revenue to put in a new hot tub in the mens hockey locker room. Maybe even put one in Berry's office.
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14 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:
OMG how hard is this for you to understand.
0.0% OF THE TICKET REVENUE LEAVES UND!
The foundation is generously donating money that WAS NOT GENERATED BY UND ATHLETICS!!!!!!
This has been explained and proven numerous times on here and sheeple just jeep returning to trying to push a narative of money being misdirected by some "evil" organization.
Pathetic.
So if the REA foundation is so generous with their money, why not just say we will take a reasonable percentage of ticket revenue from events held at REA or The Betty, maybe 25%, and not any from football. If they can't recover operating expenses from that ticket revenue, parking and concessions revenue, plus other Non-UND events, that is ok, That would be just an additional donation?
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6 hours ago, bison73 said:
Please explain how UND FB money would end up in Fargo?
52% of all of UND FB ticket revenue ends up with the REA. So in reality, nobody knows where that 52% ends up. UND should collect all of the FB ticket revenue and pay the Alerus rent fro the days they have games there. But it sounds like UND administrators really wanted the $100 million arena "gift" that they were willing to give the REA anything they wanted. They will continue to struggle funding sports other than mens hockey until the ridiculous ticket revenue agreement expires. No venue should be entitled to that much of the ticket revenue even if they are hosting the event.
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1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:
NDSU has a long history of negative recruiting so I wouldn’t bring that up if I were you.
Examples? We should probably focus on the current staffs at both schools since they are the only ones relevant today. I don't care what Bohl, Hager, Thomas or Mussman did. They are long gone.
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10 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
Who cares?? The mom needed the kid to flip her.....what?? No one should be surprised at how shallow and superficial some are.
On the flip side, a long time banker/insurance guy I know, from up north by Hoople, graduated from NDSU but now has season tickets at UND because of the "pompous a--holes" that fill the Fargo dome. (his words, not mine) But I suppose that story doesn't write as well.
When Fargo N. elementary sends classes to NDSU to run around on the field with some football players my girls insist on full head-to-toe UND. They say the players are really nice to them and joke about it, not a big deal. That impresses me more than some 'fan flipper' that probably never went to a UND football game anyway.
Well I guess there are enough "pompous a-holes" to fill a section of seats the students gave up with more wanting tickets on a waiting list. And that one section will generate just about as much revenue as the UND football program will generate in ticket revenue for the entire season.Like it or not, NDSU football is like UND hockey. There are NDSU football fans that are UND hockey fans, always have been, and there are a growing number of UND hockey fans that are becoming NDSU football fans, I work with several UND fans that back in the 1990's and early 2000's followed and went to UND FB games. They don't care about UND FB anymore, They actually follow NDSU now and have gone to some games and are regular tailgaiters when they can't get tickets.
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2 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
Every name I've sent their direction, sophomore on up, the staff 1) knows the kid 2) is following the kid 3) has the kid scheduled for a camp
I don't know all the rules and regs so I won't say any names but it is Moorhead to the lakes area kids.
Maybe Bubba needs a better recruiting coordinator than Gundy1124...
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5 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
That's what I said? OK.......
Actually you said these two kids are too slow and have no chance to play LB at the FCS level. I would say 15 FCS coaches in one case and in the other just as many FCS, FBS and even a couple of P5 schools disagree with you. Even your head coach would disagree with you. I would take their talent evaluation skills over yours.
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4 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
Ok Professor-
I bet Deluca is a 4.55 hand held.
If these kids are 4.8 fully automatic that is actually not too bad. But 4.8 hand held is pretty much carrying a piano.
So no, a 4.8 hand held isn't going to step in at FCS. But I am sure you know all this. The way recruiting is, who reports their slowest possible time....???
Continue fondling your Deluca fat head poster.
Well I stand corrected. I guess Klieman and his staff don't have a clue what they are doing. But I guess these kids have a lot of schools and staffs fooled, even the Almighty Bubba, so I guess they shouldn't feel too bad.
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It was a UND fan that posted that the SD schools and UNI didn't recruit ND or outstate MN. I was just repeating them.