Redneksioux

Fair enough. But this already has reflected poorly on the state by tainting our voting process to begin with. Now we have former athletes of a state school that have already taken a dump on our voting process, take another dump on our legal process. All while the leaders of these former players have made excuses for these same former players. Tell us how all of this does not reflect poorly on your school's program and our state.

Let me break this down for you.... It makes the forum's papers. It identifies that voter fraud has taken place by ndsu football players former and or current. It identifies that voter fraud isn't that big of a deal in nd because of the slap on the wrist charges, as well as the lack of the follow through by the now former ndsu football players on how serious they think their crime and punishment was. This is not old news, this article just came out. Like it or not, this reflects poorly on the state. Continuing to defend and make excuses for these guys, and to make excuses for the excuses that bohl and Taylor have made in the past......well it's not going to get any better.

There's a characteristic of an individual called character. Former player or not. You'd hope in college and being given the opportunity to compete in a d1 sport that your character would grow. Do you not see a trend here?

No bud they don't need to. We don't have former players acting like scum around grand forks and then disappearing. We have plenty of former players that like to visit town and continue to be a part of the community. Maybe you do in Fargo too? Or is this just bad luck? This crap gives our state a bad name and it irks me. This doesn't get to you for giving your city and school's leadership a bad name? Maybe that's part of the problem.

Yeah these guys didn't really break the law, isn't a big deal, Yada Yada ....why don't these guys face up to their actions? Because they are long gone or this just isn't that big of a deal? I know und is just a lawn mower away but you know what? Up here there are consequences. Down at the ag school it's nothing but excuses. When is the last time you've seen und or former und players involved in a voter fraud ring? When is the last time you've seen three former or current und players skip town on their charges and end up with warrants? How long will it take before the coach or ad at fu are held accountable for the character of their athletes? Like father like son. Lead by example. Sure the fcs championships may shed good light on the state. These situations more than negate that.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/269186/group/homepage/ Another big surprise

And if they hit on your girlfriend, you are basically done for.

Ok my buddy must have been referring to that and what the 250k per year would mean towards paying a younger star player.

I've heard from a hardcore devils fan that they lost more than just Ilya and the money. Was told they lost so many draft picks as well. I don't know the details and haven't read them....just figured this guy knew he was talking about.

Devils fans have a right to be ticked off....they should be ticked off with their own organization though. Ilya had every right to leave. They can't prevent him from going home.

The devils got themselves into this mess. Their fans are upset because didn't the devils go above the salary cap to sign him and are currently being punished for it? Now he's gone and they are out more. Sorry but the devils organization is to blame for the situation they are in.

But if midco isn't an option? I know don't complain it's being worked on....but we've heard this before. And many that have been able to watch und hockey in previous years may not be able to moving forward. It's almost August and the rural cable companies in nd don't even have all the details of what they'll be able to offer:/

Very nice:)

So midco is doing hockey in hd this year. Any word if midco will be doing the home football games in hd?

Whoever made the decision to sign this contract for the entire conference should lose their job. Und fans aren't the only ones upset by this.

Why so defensive on the tv deal that many view as a disappointment with the new conference?

Rabbit ears are awesome though!

I can't recall very many gopher games that have not been on tv(home or away) if not on fsn, they've been on the alternate or the b10 channel.

If the beavers were produced out of Neptune, midco must be out of mars? I can't speak for everyone....but to most fans in nd and mn, the beavers have a much better tv deal than und has this year.

Not bent out of shape again...:.just still bent out of shape;)

These games are very good quality through Lakeland if you can pick it up ota. Quality was better than midcosn.

Someone on this site is on your side? Is his name Charlie?

Not so much that I don't have the spine. It's that I don't have the interest.

I'm sure Jonathan has many places hed like to take the cup in the short time he has it. Not sure where Gf is on his list but I'm sure Gf is on it. With his leadership qualities I hope there's more cups to come for him and eventually he will bring it here.

And talk about getting laughed out of a forum?!?!