82SiouxGuy
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Rhombus is good. But it's more gourmet pizza and it's usually more expensive. Not everyone wants that. Some want simple pizza. If you want cheaper pizza that gets delivered I prefer Deeks to Dominos, Pizza Hut or some of the other chains. Deeks has usually ranked pretty well in those Best Pizza contests.
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I always like Deeks. They only do takeout or delivery.
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35 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said:
I undertand what you are saying, and that's fine. But by definition, as discussed here in this thread, what is a "Thunderbird"?
My opinion is that the cartoony logo doesn't change the meaning of the word.
Still appears to be a double standard.
Given the definition, I wonder if "Thunderbirds" would have been acceptable for UND as a nickname? I tend to think not, but I could be wrong.
I think that the NCAA would have looked at Thunderbirds like they look at Brave(s) or Tribe. They all are used in connection with Native Americans, but also have other meanings and usage. So I think they would have looked at Thunderbirds along with the logo and rest of the usage. If UND went with an airplane theme along with Thunderbirds, the NCAA would have been fine with it. If they tried a totem pole logo, the NCAA would have said no. But UND probably would have been looked at more closely than other schools if they had gone with the Thunderbirds name.
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11 minutes ago, Herd said:
Ya FCOA, the trump election campaign, wells for water in Africa . . . quite possibly. Feel free to make some other sh*$ up too.
You said that they were covering BSA expenses, jdub mentioned that they had bonds to cover the Fargodome renovations. And nothing has been mentioned about further donations to cover FCOA, so I just followed the pattern. Doesn't seem that far fetched.
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1 hour ago, UNDvince97-01 said:
Big Sky Conference Member Southern Utah: Thunderbirds
So I guess I don't get why some think that would be so offensive. (Not that I'm fighting for it)
Seems to be yet another double standard.
The name wouldn't be a problem. SUU uses a logo that looks like this:
A logo that looks like a totem pole would be the problem.
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25 minutes ago, jdub27 said:
Good one. NDSU still has around $1.5 million left to be raised/paid for from the Fargodome coach's offices and locker room renovations done in 2004 that the NDSU Foundation had to take out bonds on.
The NDSU Foundation is paying for part of the Fargodome renovations, part of the BSA renovations and quite possibly FCOA. Pretty sweet deal for the NDSU athletic department.
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15 minutes ago, Herd said:
Shouldn't you be trying to figure out what sports you are going to slash so you can pay FCOA at UND? Or should I be asking you what happens at und if you don't raise enough private donations to cover FCOA? IF UND is such a fund raising machine, why aren't coaches being paid competitively? Lots of questions.
The Foundation isn't covering it, just insuring the project until the money is raised.
I'm not too sure that any sports are going to be slashed. And UND is already well on the way to updating their budget for the state's required reductions, that budget will include FCOA. So I'm confident they have it handled. NDSU's official plan to cut their budget, which also includes cutting the athletic department budget, has so far been summed up as "Reduce Operating Expense". That doesn't give me as much confidence in NDSU.
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2 hours ago, ksixpack said:
Tweet from Kevin Fee, a former GF Herald reporter who interviewed Ralph when he dedicated the REA...I guess I am not so clueless now am I 82SiouxGuy?
GF hock leders must step up and keep state hock. Ralph's vision (talked to him when he annced new arena) UND men & and hs hock. Get it done.
It would have been really hard for Ralph to mention the women's hockey team since it didn't exist at the time the building was dedicated, much less a couple of years earlier when it was announced (which is what Fee seems to indicate in the quote). When he announced the gift it was to help the hockey program (which was only men at the time but now also includes women), UND, and Grand Forks. UND has contracts for usage of the facility. First round games at 10 am aren't the real problem with keeping the event in Grand Forks, profits for the NDSHAA are the problem. If the NDSHAA was making $50,000 more in Grand Forks they would play the championship game at 10 am.
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2 minutes ago, Herd said:
I had not heard that it was fully funded, only that the Foundation had indicated it would support the project as needed. Not sure on that.
Is the Foundation going to cover the check for COA if they don't get enough private donations to cover them? That isn't a sustainable plan, let the Foundation cover it.
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4 minutes ago, Herd said:
You are mixing your topics. Raising student fees was not given as the way that NDSU will provide FCOA. It will be raised with private donations.
Now, if NDSU raises student fees to UND's level, why not? Are you going to argue with that when UND student's are already paying a much higher fee? You would be talking out of both sides of your mouth if you argued that NDSU should not raise student fees to UND's level. Raising student fees to a comparable level of regional schools seems like a wise move to me. New athletic director, new view on where student fees should be . . . its not that hard to understand.
Hey, maybe NDSU should start charging the students for athletics tickets. Are you going to talk out of both sides of your mouth on that topic too?
NDSU students are already paying more student fees than UND students. Check out the facts, not the information printed as BSVille. More of UND fees may go to athletics than at NDSU, but total student fees are higher at NDSU. Besides that fact, as others have noted the NDSU athletic department made a 5 year arrangement with the students. Two years later they have decided they aren't getting enough.
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14 minutes ago, Herd said:
The NDSU AD specifically said that the COA dollars will be raised through private donations, with 1/2 of the amount covered for the 1st 3 years. He specifically said it will be funded through private donations. Was he supposed to publically provide a list of private donors . . . would that satisfy the vultures? So, Ndsu is not waiting for the hammer to drop on several of its athletic programs like Und is anticipating. The COA mystery at up north.
Aren't they still trying to raise enough donations to pay for the BSA renovations or have they finally finished with that project?
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1 hour ago, UNDfan2013 said:
I am conflicted on this news and initially disappointed with the coaching staff. I understand 18-22 year old kids will not always make the best choices. However I thought the coaches had this high principal and require their athletes to work hard, stay out of trouble and be fully committed to UND football. That last part is what bothers me. He quit the team, the reason why really doesn't matter when he appears to be welcomed back with open arms. Other players have been busting their butts with workouts and lifting, doing their school work and are truly committed. Is this the story of another athlete that gets special treatment?
I am going to wait to make my final judgment and see how this all plays out with the coaches actions.
Bottom line, family comes before UND football on the list of priorities. And I'm pretty sure that Bubba and the coaching staff would agree with that.
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10 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Are we sure UND didn't submit a similar report to the system office/state budget office regarding the 4% budget cut? The state budget office/governor require agencies to identify the line items cuts are made from and the universities only have 2 lines. We may not want to cast stones on this one.
According to this article, http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3956401-president-speaks-und-budget-cuts-well-attended-forum, UND has submitted more than just a 1 line form.
Quotewhile an initial plan submitted to the North Dakota University System office Feb. 22 stated some certainties — including that tuition will not be increased, employees would see an average of a 3 percent raise next year and the new SMHS facility construction would go on as planned — other parts of the plan are fluid.
They aren't going to fix a $9 million budget problem in a couple of weeks, but just submitting a plan that says we're going to cut spending doesn't cut it. That form is the sum total of what NDSU submitted for a tentative plan. http://www.inforum.com/news/3947253-ndsus-64-million-budget-cut-plan-sent-system-office-has-just-one-line
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2 hours ago, Bison Dan said:
Kind of like your COA plan right?
COA would be part of the budget, Dan.
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19 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:
Well they won't be deficit spending. And your excuse that they (Administrators) wanted to take their time so as to not make a mistake, you know this how?
The deficit was in the budget, not in actual spending. They didn't actually go in the hole. It was a 2 year budget, so they had up to 2 years to find ways to fix the problem before they actually went in the hole. This isn't rocket science Dan, this is really simple stuff. It's how government works in North Dakota. The schools and other departments came up with projected budgets by December of 2014 to cover a period of July 1, 2015-June 30, 2017. The Legislature then took all of the projected budgets and worked out a final state budget by May 2015 for that same 2 year period. During that Legislative session they put a cap on tuition hikes for the schools. So the budget that UND created in Fall 2014 would need to be adjusted so that they didn't over spend during the 7/1/15-6/30/17 period. UND did that during the Fall of 2015, well before it actually became a problem. The UND administration talked about the issue after the Legislative session in May 2015, saying they were going to take the time to make well thought out decisions. Then they took the time to talk with the various departments in the Fall before making final decisions on how to correct the budget. That seems pretty self-explanatory.
Now there is another budget problem because the actual state revenues are going to be lower than the projected revenues. This is due to low oil prices which result in lower oil tax revenue than planned. The Governor has asked for plans to reduce all state budgets by 4%. This includes the budgets for the colleges. Again, this is for the entire 2 year budget cycle, not just for current spending. UND submitted a plan that included things like eliminating some positions, holding off on filling other positions, and increasing some revenues. The plan does not include increasing tuition. NDSU sent in a plan that said "Decrease Operating Expenses $6.4 million". No details, no information on where the decreases would come from. That's it. Or maybe you like budgets like that because you don't have to understand where the dollars are actually going to come from. Probably cuts down on headaches.
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22 minutes ago, North Dakota said:
I would think they would save way more in travel expenses in the BSC then the Sunbelt. How many fans do they draw now?
Travel expenses would fit in the statement where I said there are a lot of other expenses and revenues. Travel expenses may decrease some, but probably not as much as you might expect. The Big Sky covers a lot of ground, and I bet they would fly to a lot of games, so travel expenses would still be significant. As far as attendance, I don't know what it is now but I can't see it increasing a great deal playing lower level schools.
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24 minutes ago, darell1976 said:
Would they get more fans in the Kibbie Dome if they hosted Montana or Eastern Washington compared to hosting Texas St or ULM.
How about against Portland St, Sac St, SUU, UNC, UND? You mentioned 2 schools that would average about 1 home game per year. Overall I would expect attendance to stay the same or decrease, I don't think it will go up playing against lower level schools.
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11 minutes ago, darell1976 said:
Wouldn't they get more money in the long run with less scholarships, and more people in the stands with closer teams like EWU, Montana, and Idaho St. If they get kicked out of the SB, and decide on FBS Independent that school is dead.
Let's say that an average scholarship is worth $15,000 per year. 22 scholarships would be $330,000 per year. FCS schools normally get $250-500,000 for a guarantee game with P5 schools, FBS schools often get $1 million plus. So a team moving down saves $330,000 in costs but loses more than $500,000 in revenue. That looks like a loss by moving down. (There are many more expenses and revenues that would be affected so this isn't a complete look at the situation.)
Would more or fewer fans go to UND and NDSU football games if they moved back down to DII and played Crookston, Moorhead, Duluth, Mankato, etc. I can't imagine that a lot of fans would be excited by playing DII schools.
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Doesn't look like Native American imagery, does have feathers, not a problem.
Does resemble Native American imagery and could be a problem. Logos like these would not be chosen by UND.
Is that simple enough for people? It isn't whether the image has feathers or not, it is whether the feathers look like a Native American headdress or other Native imagery, or whether they look like regular bird feathers.
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7 hours ago, Bison Dan said:
So what. Why out of the 11 universities you guys had one? This is a COA thread so where's your plan. Must be like the DI move plan. (non-existent) Look how that worked out. Same attitude as before - If NDSU can do it we can too.
The original deficit was mainly related to the cap on tuition. That budget was prepared well before the legislature decided to cap the tuition increase last year. So the budget needed to be adjusted to cover a $5 million deficit on a well over $200 million budget. In other words, about 2%. They didn't rush into it because they didn't need to hurry and make mistakes. They have already fixed that plus more, and are well on the way to fixing the other decrease caused by the low oil tax revenues, the same cause that is resulting in 4% reductions in all state agencies. What is NDSU's plan to fix that 4% reduction?
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58 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:
Please explain your 5+ Million deficit if your accounting is so great and explain where the athletic dept is going to make up the 1 million pledged to the deficit. With COA that's 2 million of new monies that need to be raised.
The deficit that was explained during the legislative session over a year ago? The deficit that has been taken care of already? And what does that have to do with NDSU explaining their "budget plan" like this, http://www.inforum.com/news/3947253-ndsus-64-million-budget-cut-plan-sent-system-office-has-just-one-line? Oh wait, you're just trolling as usual because you you're trying to cover for NDSU and change the topic.
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2 hours ago, bigskyvikes said:
I see Daryl, 82siouxguy, and their other brother Daryle are reliving this mind numbing "they won't let you use it" BS AGAIN!! We can all read your sh*t in 75 other posts you did for the last 3 years! Don't post your "I know everything" stuff....again, please!
I think I'll post whatever I want. There are plenty of people that can't seem to read or understand the simple language written in the NCAA Native American policy or the Settlement Agreement that UND signed with the NCAA. It basically says, "No Native American nicknames or imagery". If it looks like it's Native American, the NCAA isn't going to like it. Whether you like it or not, those things apply to UND, and UND administration will pay very close attention to those policies. I can't help it if you are not able to comprehend those simple truths. I know that we can always count on you to come and insult people that you disagree with. Or here's an idea for you, don't read my posts if you don't like them.
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12 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
As should our Men's Hockey Team. Or are we an exception to that rule?
And based on your logic, dynasties should never, ever end. And you and I both know that is not true. Look at the Gopher Men's Hockey program for instance.
UND hockey is in the same discussion in college hockey, which is why UND is one of the top teams almost every year.
Actually winning titles involves more variables. In women's college hockey there are not a large number of top players. Only a few schools get most of them. In men's hockey there are a lot more. They are spread out to more teams. That's part of the reason 3 new teams have won titles in the last 3 years.
Playoff structure can make a difference. Every extra game you have to play is another chance for something bad to happen. It is harder to win 4 in a row without being upset than 2 in a row.
Dynasties end for a lot of reasons. Coaches leave or die. Coaches lose key assistants and replace them with the wrong people. Coaches lose focus. Sometimes they lose the players respect or attention as they get older. And some don't ever seen to end even when they change coaches.
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6 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:
Luke Johnson is definately the worst since Joe Finley. Do the coaches realize the team won't miss him if they sit him for a weekend?
Since he is one of the best on the team at winning face-offs, the team might miss him quite a bit. Most of the players win less than 50%.
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Cost of Attendance
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Did you actually read the conversation or just cherry-pick something. This portion of the conversation has been more about the state required budget reductions, FCOA has been a minor part of the conversation. I linked an article that states UND gave the state several items that they will and won't do as a part of the state required reductions. Since they are going through an entire budget process, the FCOA will be part of that. UND is working through the process and will give more details through that process. All of that was provided to the state when the schools were required to provide their initial plans last week.
What did NDSU provide for a plan? A single line saying that they would "Reduce Operating Expenses". We had another link showing that. Nothing else. Great plan, huh. And as far as NDSU's FCOA plan goes, they don't have a great track record of getting private donations on time to finish projects. Think Fargodome football offices and think BSA renovation as recent examples. The NDSU Foundation had to cover donation shortfalls in both cases. So people don't have a lot of confidence in NDSU's plan for budget reductions, since they haven't shown one so far. And people don't have a lot of confidence in NDSU's ability to provide enough private donations to cover FCOA since they have a pattern.
But it sure is nice that you Bisons can come over here in shifts to try and protect the bad name of NDSU.