82SiouxGuy
-
Posts
5,777 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
78
Posts posted by 82SiouxGuy
-
-
1 hour ago, sioux rube said:
And Dean is a minny alum and it didn't stop him. Bottom line it's time for some new blood behind the bench.
Dean wasn't already coaching at Minnesota.
-
2 hours ago, tnt said:
What's the matter with native american imagery anyway. Does any particular tribe have a right to that imagery? If Florida State, etc. can still use logos based on getting permission from the tribe, then who owns the rights to what imagery? Who owns the right to a totem pole, a bison, bird feathers etc. I am sure there are Native American schools that are using imagery that is tied with American symbols. Should we be offended by that and call for it to stop. No, because it is all just plain ludicrous.
Why don't you take your argument to the NCAA? That debate is over. Their Native American policy states that schools who do not have permission from the local tribe, permission that was needed by 2006, can't use Native American nicknames or imagery. The Settlement Agreement with UND says that UND will not use Native American imagery. It doesn't matter whether you think it's ludicrous or not. The NCAA rule is in place. They have the right to make their own rules, the courts have said so. Everyone knows it. UND isn't going to fight the rule any more. You can choose to be offended or you can choose to not be offended. But this argument is a non-starter.
-
3 hours ago, chicofelipe said:
I call bull$%!#. The Bison is a considered a sacred animal to native americans. No problems there. The Seawolf is native american imagery. No problem there.
QuoteThe thunderbird is a legendary creature in certain North American indigenous peoples' history and culture. It is considered a supernatural bird of power and strength. It is especially important, and frequently depicted, in the art, songs and oral histories of many Pacific Northwest Coast cultures, and is found in various forms among the peoples of the American Southwest, Great Lakes, and Great Plains.
QuoteThunderbird is a term used in cryptozoology to describe large, bird-like creatures, generally identified with the Thunderbird of Native American tradition.
QuoteName: Thunderbird
Tribal affiliation: Sioux, Arapaho, Wichita, Ojibwe, Salish, many other tribes
Native names: Wakinyan (Sioux), Animikii (Anishinaabe), Boh'ooo or Etcitane:bate (Arapaho), Bha'a (Gros Ventre), Cigwe (Potawatomi), Enaemaehkiw/Inaemehkiwak (Menominee)
Type: Nature spirit, thunder, giant bird
Related figures in other tribes: Thunders (Iroquois), Thunder Beings (Lenape), Thunderers (Cherokee)
The Thunderbird is a widespread figure in Native American mythology, particularly among Midwestern, Plains, and Northwest Coast tribes. Thunderbird is described as an enormous bird (according to many Northwestern tribes, large enough to carry a killer whale in its talons as an eagle carries a fish) who is responsible for the sound of thunder (and in some cases lightning as well.) Different Native American communities had different traditions regarding the Thunderbird. In some tribes, Thunderbirds are considered extremely sacred forces of nature, while in others, they are treated like powerful but otherwise ordinary members of the animal kingdom. In Gros Ventre tradition, it was Thunderbird (Bha'a) who gave the sacred pipe to the people. Some Plains tribes associated thunderbirds with the summer season (in Arapaho mythology, Thunderbird was the opposing force to White Owl, who represented winter.)QuoteBison or buffalo are large, even-toed ungulates in the genus Bison within the subfamily Bovinae.
Two extant and four extinct species are recognized. Of the four extinct species, three were North American: Bison antiquus, B. latifrons, and B. occidentalis. The fourth, B. priscus, ranged across steppe environments from Western Europe, through Central Asia, and onto North America.
Of the two surviving species, the American bison, B. bison, found only in North America, is the more numerous. Although sometimes referred to historically as a "buffalo", it is only distantly related to the true buffalo. The North American species is composed of two subspecies, the plains bison, B. b. bison, and the wood bison, B. b. athabascae, which is the namesake of Wood Buffalo National Park in Canada. The European bison B. bonasus, or wisent, is found in Europe and the Caucasus, reintroduced after being extinct in the wild.
QuoteSeawolf or Sea-wolf may refer to:
Contents
Fauna
- South American sea lion or sea wolf
- Seawolf (fish), a marine fish
Military
- HMS Seawolf (47S), an S-class submarine launched in 1935 and sold in 1945
- USS Seawolf (SS-28), an H-class submarine commissioned in 1913
- USS Seawolf (SS-197), a Sargo-class submarine commission in 1939
- USS Seawolf (SSN-575), a nuclear submarine commission in 1957
- USS Seawolf (SSN-21), a Seawolf-class submarine commissioned in 1997
- Seawolf class submarine, a submarine class built 1989-2005
- Sea Wolf missile, a British naval missile system
Music
- Sea Wolf (band), an indie rock band founded in 2003
- Sea Wolf, a 1971 album by Titanic
Jack London
- The Sea-Wolf, a 1904 novel by Jack London
Native American culture is the first thing that comes up when you search for thunderbird as a bird. The other top results are a car and software. Native American culture comes up way down the line when related to Bison or Seawolf.
-
2 hours ago, North Dakota said:
Actually the fees listed above are only the mandatory fees. There are additional course and program fees. I would expect the mandatory fees to be relatively equal. Obviously there will be much different course and program fees depending on the program.
Of course those are just the mandatory fees. Each individual will be different because of their program and the choices they make. These numbers were posted because NDSU fans keep posting claims that UND student fees were higher than NDSU student fees, and that the student fee increase that NDSU is trying to implement is only going to bring the NDSU total up to the same range as UND. These NDSU claims are false, as is proven by comparing the rates shown on each school's individual web site.
-
1 hour ago, FBAlum said:
I actually really like the Thunderbird logo...
It is unique. The Fighting Sioux Name and logo were unique and amazing. The F'n Hawks is not unique... However the Thunderbird logo that this guy put together is very cool. I would buy a hat with that circle logo for sure... Also, just to have something that isn't like every other Hawk, Eagle, Falcon, whatever...
The problem is that the Thunderbird is often considered Native American imagery. The NCAA does not allow Native American imagery of any kind. The NCAA would have major issues with a school using a Thunderbird logo.
-
On 1/29/2016 at 1:05 AM, 82SiouxGuy said:
UND Student fees from https://und.edu/admissions/student-account-services/und-student-fees.cfm $569.98 per semester or $1,140 per year
NDSU Student fees from https://www.ndsu.edu/admission/cost_tuition/cost/ $1,216 per year
UNI Student fees from https://www.uni.edu/tuition/2015-2016-undergraduate-tuition-fees $1,169 per year
USD Student fees from http://www.usd.edu/financial-affairs/business-office/tuition-and-fees/undergraduate $1,125.6 per 12 credits University support fee plus $520.80 per 12 credits for General Activity fee
SDSU Student fees from https://www.sdstate.edu/admissions/financing/undergrad/cost/ $1,920 per year
It appears that Hammersmith may be attempting to identify the amount of student fees that go to athletics (and I wouldn't put a lot of faith in the accuracy of the numbers put out by that USA Today annual report). These are the actual student fees as reported by each school's web site (with links to the pages for verification). It appears that NDSU students are already paying more in student fees overall than either UND or UNI, the Athletic Department just may not be getting as much. USD students seem to be getting the short end of the stick. I didn't post UNO's because they list every fee separately, but don't give enough explanation for all of them to know which need to be included for this discussion.
2 hours ago, Herd said:Ndsu is raising student fees to around Und's level. And und charges students for athletics tickets where ndsu does not. Oh the hipocracy runs deep here.
As I pointed out before, according to the school's web sites, NDSU already has higher student fees than UND. NDSU is planning to raise them even more. It appears that UND spends more of their fees on athletics and NDSU is going to get close to that number. But that means NDSU is spending more student fees on other parts of the school. Does the total amount of student fees at UND plus the costs of hockey tickets reach the level of total student fees paid by every NDSU student after this increase? Or don't those total student fees count at NDSU because the only thing that matters is what the athletic department gets? Or maybe NDSU fans don't notice what happens with the rest of the school.
-
42 minutes ago, sioux rube said:
Bottom line is UND won't get more top players in the world because of Idalski. It's no mystery.
Bottom line is that as long as Frost is coaching at Minnesota, they are probably going to get just about any top player they want.
-
2 minutes ago, GLABS said:
The poll on the left came from Anna's article, the poll on the right was a screen shot from Fox9. Bridging this divide is a must for a new brand.
Poll on left:
http://www.inforum.com/news/3885425-decades-long-debate-ends-new-und-nickname-revealed
Using unscientific internet polls as marketing research doesn't actually prove a lot. Especially when one of them is from the day of the announcement and the other is from a television station in Minneapolis, about 325 miles away from Grand Forks, and the home of a rival school in a major sport.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, sioux rube said:
Hell he had 2 of the best players in the world in the Lammy twins and he couldn't do it. He needs to go.
Minnesota had 5 or 6 of the best players in the world at the same time. 6 usually beats 2.
-
34 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:
Minnesota doesn't deserve a berth , I would think the NCAA would want to make bank in the cities so they better put UND there.
If the NCAA was worried about making bank on the hockey tournament they would do it completely differently. They will make minor adjustments to pairings to help attendance, especially at some rinks where they expect lower attendance. But they aren't going to wreck integrity of the pairings just to attract a few fans. The entire hockey tournament makes money the way it is, but the NCAA makes so much money on basketball and football that they aren't concerned about making a few extra dollars on hockey.
-
3 hours ago, Cratter said:
Red River starting a goalie with 83% save percentage, yet they are undefeated...
If you don't see a lot of shots you aren't always as sharp when you finally see one. Devils Lake had 3 shots on goal against Red River in 1 game this year, 1 in each period. They scored on the shot in the second period.
-
1
-
-
49 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
Serious question, as I don't know the field. Are there not ethical problems with including in one's "portfolio" work that was neither solicited nor used, where the "clients" never engaged the artist and are otherwise readily identifiable? Does "concept art" permit an artist to mislead future prospective clients as to past engagements?
There are no ethical problems if you do the work, if it is original, and if you don't make any false claims. In this case they should be fine because they have stated that they did this on their own and that it was never submitted to UND. If they claimed that they did it for UND, then it would be a problem. A portfolio is used to show your skills and abilities. I've seen people submit writing samples that were never submitted to anyone. They are fine as long as they don't make false claims about being printed somewhere. The people just use them to show what they are capable of doing.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:
At private schools, yes.
At many, many, many (OK, most) public institutions a significant portion of athletics dollars come from university support funds and subsidies (via the state legislature).
From previous articles, I believe that somewhere around the top 15 or so programs actually make money. Texas, Ohio State, and Penn State among others of their type are normally near the top. That varies from year to year. A lot of other P5 conference members probably average 20-30% of athletic spending coming from the institution in some form. That includes schools like Minnesota. Some MAC schools were in the 80% or higher range. For FCS schools that average number is probably more like 65-75%. UND and NDSU ranked near the top for FCS schools in a report from a couple of years ago, at that time NDSU was in the low 40's and UND in the upper 40's. So, out of a $20 million athletic department budget at UND, student fees and other institutional support is probably in the $9 million range.
-
9 minutes ago, Sioux-09 said:
I am just wondering how North Dakota will get in to the West Regional in Minneapolis. I'm actually curious to know about other team around the country and where they'll land. And even Minnesota if they win the Big Ten. Will they get into the West Regional to? It'll be interesting to see how all of this will turn out.
If Minnesota makes the tournament they will automatically be in St. Paul as the host school. If Miami makes the tournament they will automatically be in Cincinnati as the host school. If Holy Cross makes the tournament they will automatically be in Worcester, MA as the host school. It is too early to know any more about which teams will be in which regionals. UND will most likely be in St. Paul if they finish as a 1 seed and are ranked higher in the Pairwise than St. Cloud. They could possibly be put in St. Paul as a 1 seed even if they are ranked lower than St. Cloud, but it isn't as likely. They could also be in St. Paul as a 2 seed, but that is harder to predict. There are 4 weekends of play before the tournament selection, a lot can change in that time.
-
1 hour ago, ksixpack said:
LOL..oh ya really changes those passing angles...probably should put that puck on the tape no matter the angle...let me guess, you never played hockey?
And to further pile on this comment of yours then why o why does NDSU and UND practice at a different facility then the Fargo Dome and the Alerus? Heavens, it must be a nightmare to practice outside and then have to go inside to play a game...I don't know how they do it?
Long story short and my final comment on this. For the first 50+ years of this high school tournament there was never a change of scheduling for a practice. The mens team always scheduled their practices around the tournament and if they were in town during the tournament, the men played Sat/Sunday around the tournament. No questions asked, it was just how it was done. This is fact. So why are things so different today? I think I know the answer.
Then UND didn't really need the Olympic sized rink if it doesn't make any difference. That was basically a waste of money. Coaches have lied for years about different sized rinks being different to play on. That's what you're claiming. Maybe you haven't noticed, not all passes can be tape to tape, sometimes there are other players in the way. Sometimes you need to use the boards. They might play differently if they are 15 feet further away. But you seem to think you're more of an expert than coaches from the NHL, college, the Olympics, etc.
Again, comparing football where the game is always played on the same sized field to hockey where the rink sizes are different seems to make sense to you. Plus, most of the time NDSU and UND practice in the Fargo Dome and the Alerus the day before a game. They do that to get used to that specific playing surface. Maybe you didn't know that. Maybe you didn't notice, UND just built an indoor practice facility for times they want to practice inside to prepare for playing indoors or when the weather doesn't cooperate outside. Or why do all football teams travel to away games a day early? Oh yeah, to practice on the field where they are going to play the game. Kind of like how St Cloud is going to practice on the rink at REA on Thursday, the day before they start a conference tournament.
There have been plenty of changes in tournament schedules over the years. This isn't the first time. Just because you make a claim doesn't make it a fact. But nice try.
-
1
-
1
-
-
4 minutes ago, ksixpack said:
Ralph would be in my corner on this one...sorry...
The people running REA, who have a much better idea than you about what Ralph wanted, are the ones making the schedule. So my guess is that you are clueless and that Ralph would not be in your corner.
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, ksixpack said:
Ice is ice...why the mystic with practicing on that ice? They have praciticed there 100 times by now. FYI, most NHL teams do not practice on the NHL rink, they have a different practice facility because the NHL rink has other events on a consistent basis. Hak's Flyers rarely practice on the NHL rink in Philly.
Size of rink makes a huge difference. The main arena at REA is 200x85. The Olympic arena is 200x100. That 15 feet changes all of the angles for passing, breakouts, etc. Again, that is why the Olympic arena was added to the facility, so the teams could prepare to play on the same size rink. NHL teams practice on the same size rink as they are going to play on. That is why your argument means nothing in this case.
-
4 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
This is a false choice to begin with. There is no reason why this can't be coordinated ahead of time by all the relevant stakeholders. And that has to take place several years in advance.
This was scheduled years in advance. It is the first round of the conference tournament, and UND is a host because of their play during the year. Therefore the schedule for the weekend was set up to include practices and games for the UND women. The conference tournament is set up to put teams into the NCAA tournament, and scheduled accordingly. Or do you propose that the NCAA should base their tournament schedule on when the North Dakota High School Athletic Association wants to play the North Dakota high school tournament?
-
1
-
-
15 minutes ago, ksixpack said:
Darn right...look up his dedication speech...his vision was to further the UND mens hockey team and the community of GF...he did not give two sh*ts about any other UND program. Part of his generosity was to help this community after the flood. In addition, he was a big proponent of high school hockey as he built the arena in TRF for high school and youth hockey and has donated money to help support other high school arenas. Rest assured, Ralph would not be onboard with this scheduling. The best way to run this tournament was when they utilized both the Main ice and Olympic arena for both boys and girls. One stop hockey for all and it worked very well. To do away with such a good thing for petty reasons is very short sighted.
This weekend is the first round of the WCHA conference tournament. UND Women's hockey is part of the UND Hockey program. The Ralph Engelstad Arena was built to support the UND Hockey program. And horror or horrors, it is changing times of a high school tournament by a couple of hours. It didn't prevent the high school teams from playing in the building, just changed the times. Get over it.
Ralph supported the entire University of North Dakota, not just the Men's Hockey team. Look it up. That's why he has donated millions of dollars to scholarships. He wasn't so narrowly focused on the hockey team as you apparently are.
-
1
-
-
19 minutes ago, ksixpack said:
So your standing by your statement that a women's hockey practice should take priority over the state boys hockey tournament? Additionally consider that the Olympic arena sits empty next door. Also consider that a large amount of students will miss additional class time to support their team. And finally, all of this so a team that averages less attendance then all 8 boys high school hockey teams in the tournament does, can practice on the REA ice instead of the empty Olympic?
Practicing on an Olympic size rink does not give effective preparation for playing on an NHL size rink. If you could prepare for either one effectively on the other, UND wouldn't need the Olympic rink to practice on for games in Colorado College. And yes, UND women's hockey practice should take priority in a UND arena over the first round of North Dakota High School hockey tournament games. All it did was move the games by a couple of hours. Attendance of UND women's hockey has nothing to do with this arrangement.
Also, I'm pretty sure that this arrangement will not affect school attendance much, if at all. The Grand Forks schools, even grade schools, have Thursday and Friday off even though Red River plays in the evening session. If students were planning to come for a 1 o'clock game from anywhere other than Grand Forks it is highly unlikely that they would go to school for a couple of classes and then leave. If they are coming from Fargo or Bismarck or Minot or Dickinson to go to the tournament, they are not going to school on Thursday morning. So moving that game up a few hours isn't going to cause more of them to miss class in any significant numbers.
Basically, UND hockey program in a UND facility takes priority over non-UND program.
-
2
-
1
-
-
8 minutes ago, ksixpack said:
No practice should ever take priority over a state boys hockey tournament, especially a women's practice...get real. It's decisions like this that will drive this tournament to Fargo on a regular basis
It is primarily a University of North Dakota facility. It was built to take care of UND programs. UND programs will always take priority. The NDHSAA has always known this.
-
4
-
-
1 hour ago, sioux rube said:
I'm aware of the women's game. I was a coach when this happened 4-5 years ago. Dumb making kids play at 9 in the morning at their state tourney.
I'm pretty sure that Minnesota 9 man football title games used to start at 8 am. And North Dakota 9 man football title games start at 9.
-
1
-
-
42 minutes ago, ClassB said:
off-topic -- is he virginia regorrah's son?
Yes, he is.
-
6 hours ago, burd said:
Do Minn and Nodak have reciprocity like Minn and Wisc do?
They have for years. North Dakota has reciprocity with several states.
2015-16 Season
in Women's Hockey
Posted
No, it's the same thing they have said forever about York, and Berenson, and they say about Saban in football, or any of the very successful coaches. Top coaches in every college sport are going to get most of the players they want. It means they are going to be successful almost every year and that they are going to be difficult to beat. But they can be beat. You might have to do it with underdog players or better conditioning or out working them or even a lucky break or 2. But those coaches will be favored to win most years.