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2 hours ago, bison73 said:
Im good with that.
But you seem to have a problem with another guess that NDSU trying to grab another $1.5 million from student fees might also be used to cover FCOA. That guess has at least as much validity since NDSU has announced that they are interested in increasing fees, while no one has announced that NDSU is increasing football ticket prices.
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1 minute ago, bison73 said:
Ticket prices. 5.00 x 14000 = 70,000 x 6 games = 420,000. Thats just a start.
More guessing on your part or has anyone from the NDSU Athletic Department actually said they were going to do that? Guessing doesn't count. If they did I could say that UND might add $4 to each hockey ticket. $4 X 9,000 X 20 = $720,000. Wow, I just paid for FCOA.
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42 minutes ago, Herd said:
NDSU's student fees are significantly less than UND's. After increasing NDSU's student fees by 34%, NDSU's student fee will still be, "significantly less than UNDs.
If NDSU's student fees were $1, compared to UND's $250, and NDSU increased the fees to $5, the headline here would be . . . "NDSU increases student fees by %500!!!". A little disingenuous, don't you think?
Take away? Just a bunch of idiots on this board making a mountain out of a mole hill. NDSU student fees will still be a great value compared to other area universities.
Why is NDSU doing this? It's low hanging fruit that just sitting there for the taking, so take it and put it to use. The fees for students are increasing, but they will still be relatively low.
So you are advocating that NDSU should take the student fees "because they can". That seems to be a great way to build trust with the student body. How about giving an honest reason for needing them? I don't care if it's $1 or $1,000, the school should provide a legitimate use for the money, not just some vague possibilities. Show a need for the money instead of claiming that they will still be a great deal even after the increase.
I'm not quite sure how you maintain the right to post on this board with your insults.
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Another Hawk done by Phoenix.
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7 hours ago, bison73 said:
Nothing to deflect. Its pretty straight forward IMO. If you want to extrapolate it to whatever conspiracy or scenario have at it. I find it amusing.
I also find it amusing you resorted to that tact, which of course you had to because you dont have an answer. All you would of had to do was say you didnt know. Just like myself as I also have no idea where the rest of the money will come from at this juncture. I do know I sent in a donation for that exact purpose and was ear marked so. I know others who did as well. So Im not really concerned about where the extra will come from. There are many avenues where to raise the extra money. 350,000.00 is already taken care of.
I wish you well in your fund raising efforts.
Discussion is going on about something actually happening at NDSU (NDSU Athletics asking for money from students 2 years after saying that they wouldn't need more money for 5 years). NDSU apologist enters the discussion and tries to suggest that UND will do something similar without any evidence of it happening from any source. That is a deflection. You can decide whatever you want about the NDSU situation, but trying to shift the discussion to UND and get it away from NDSU is pure deflection.
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1 hour ago, Texas rancher said:
Where is und going to come up with the extra$ for fcoa? When a student hike comes up should we just sit on our hands and say oh well, flagship?
Maybe you shouldn't worry your pretty little head about UND asking for a student hike until it is actually suggested by someone at UND. Then maybe you can ask some questions. So far you are the only person that has suggested that UND might do that. Until then, keep trying to change the subject to deflect attention away from NDSU.
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39 minutes ago, UND1981 said:
Is William & Mary the only recent case of the NCAA saying no to feathers on a new logo? I think it is total BS that we are afraid of putting feathers on a new logo. That raises the likelihood that the new logo will be plain, geometric and very ordinary; not the homerun needed to lift the spirits of UND fans having to accept the FH name.
Feathers that look like they belong on a bird would not be a problem. Feathers that look like a Native American headdress, or resemble any kind of Native American symbol, will more than likely be a problem with the NCAA.
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1 hour ago, Cratter said:
It is pretty pathetic that a state with such a small population with such a huge amount of money (I know it needs Minnesota money too) can't build a much needed bridge.
Maybe it needs to be private like the old Fargo toll bridge to finally get done. Fargos got 7 bridges crossing the RR. They even have two right next to each other in North Fargo with one having very little traffic that connects yards away from the other bridge, essentially just making it a "short cut" and saving about one minute time from having to drive to the other bridge.
The bridges in Grand Forks cost substantially more because of the "truss" style spanning a larger area? where in Fargo its all "beam" style. Just throw a road over the water with a few pillars going down.
Money is only part of the problem for a GFK-EGF bridge. The other problem is getting people to agree on where to put it. People don't want the traffic going by their house. 32nd and 47th are mainly residential and 62nd is some residential, none of those folks want that traffic by their houses. Merrifield Road is too far south unless they put the bypass in place (62nd probably is too). All of them are south of town for EGF, so the city doesn't like them because they want the traffic running through town. They don't want people just hopping across the river and not going by EGF businesses where they might stop. No location has gotten enough support so far. Merrifield probably has the best chance because it will eliminate truck traffic through town, but the bypass will probably need to be part of the package.
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5 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:
At risk of sounding dumb, wtf does GFK stand for?
Grand ForKs. It is what the FAA uses to identify the Grand Forks airport. Many people also use it as a shortcut to identify Grand Forks. Hector is FAR. McCarran in Las Vegas is LAS. Minneapolis-St Paul is MSP.
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On 1/21/2016 at 1:02 PM, UNDBIZ said:
As far as ndsu policy goes, it states "except when approved by the President." I'm guessing Bresciani approved of his use of non-coach airfare. Doesn't make it right, just makes it a poor policy.
1 hour ago, DI IN FARGO said:Reading is not your strong suit is it?
Last time I checked he was still the president of NDSU.
DI, you might want to check your own reading comprehension since that fact was mentioned several posts (and a day) before you piped in. As UNDBIZ said, it might not make it against the NDSU policy but that doesn't make it right. But anything that the NDSU president does is fine in your eyes.
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16 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
So who's going explain to gfhockey what a "courtesy interview" is?
The first step would be to teach him the definition of courtesy.
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1 hour ago, UND-RedSox fan said:
Makes sense. They moved before I was alive so they've always been the Cardinals for me. I didn't even know they used to be in St. Louis.
They were in Chicago before moving to St. Louis. St. Louis has now stolen, and lost, 2 NFL franchises over the years.
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2 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said:
sorry I wasn't clear. I meant still going with green and white, with hardly a mention of fighting hawks at some events.
They will always use green and white, just as they have always used green and white. They used green and white when the nickname was Fighting Sioux. Hawks was picked during the last half of last semester. Then most people went home for the holidays. This semester started this week. It will take time to integrate a new nickname, it doesn't happen overnight. Some sports are probably putting more of an effort into making the change than others. They aren't going to drop everything they normally do to insert Fighting Hawks into everything. It will be a work in progress throughout this year and into next year, especially since a new logo won't be fully available until next year.
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2 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said:
So, we're going with the Green and White......interesting....
You may not have noticed, but they have used Green and White, which happen to be the school colors, in cheers for as long as they have been the school colors. They aren't going to stop just because of a new nickname.
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2 hours ago, niouxsiouxfan said:
For those of us not in the know, like me, can you explain the reference?
It's a reference to a saying that Tim Hennesey (TH) uses on radio broadcasts when describing a fake or dangle during play. He will say something like "He gave the defenseman a little bit of the old 'How's she going' and went right by him". It is sometimes accompanied by a chuckle or laugh. It usually means the player made the defenseman look silly or foolish.
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36 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
https://www.umes.edu/125/Content.aspx?id=35846
http://www.meachoops.com/about/umes/
http://www.ncaa.com/schools/umes
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Athletic Division: NCAA Division I-AAASchool Colors: Maroon and graySchool Nickname: Hawkshttps://colleges.niche.com/university-of-maryland-eastern-shore/athletics/
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15 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:
I honestly was starting to think that he was bolting at Christmas but he's still here. If he does not play in one game could he leave after this year and claim medical hardship and still have 4 years of eligibility?
If he doesn't play in a single game it would be considered a redshirt year. You can't apply for a medical hardship until after the redshirt year is used up.
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22 minutes ago, Fetch said:
So u were there ?
So why didn't we appeal after SL did approve ?
Appeal what? The Spirit Lake approval was almost 2 years after the original deadline to get local tribe approval, so the NCAA would not have had to follow it. It would have been meaningless without the Settlement Agreement. And the Spirit Lake approval was almost 1 1/2 years after the Settlement Agreement that both the State of North Dakota, on behalf of UND, and the NCAA signed. That agreement required approval by 2 tribes and Spirit Lake was 1/2 of that.
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36 minutes ago, Fetch said:
Umm the surrender agreement & letting the ncaa dictate the need for approval of 2 Tribes when Florida only had to get one - We got the one nearest to us - while Standing Rock was controlled by hostile leaders & most of the tribe is in SD
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A little review of the lawsuit issue. As has been discussed, the NCAA is a private, membership organization. They can make any rules that they want as long as they don't break existing laws. Banning Native American nicknames did not break any existing laws.
The NCAA ban on nicknames came in August 2005. They made a quick change within a couple of weeks to allow schools to keep their nicknames if they got current approval from a single local tribe. That appeal had to be approved by the middle of 2007. All schools with Native American nicknames that didn't have local tribe approval either needed to change their name or go on the ban list by that time. None of the local tribes gave UND approval at the time. Spirit Lake had given UND approval in 2000, but would not recognize their own policy. Tribal leadership just had to send a letter to the NCAA stating that UND still had approval from the tribe, but refused to send a letter. UND would have been put on the ban list because of that. The other option for the school was to drop the nickname.
Instead, UND sued over the policy. The biggest issue that UND could find to sue over was the fact that the NCAA Executive Committee made the Native American policy and the NCAA bylaws said that a policy like that needed to be passed by the membership. After UND sued, the NCAA membership changed their policy to allow the Executive Committee to make policies like the Native American nickname ban. And the Committee renewed that ban after the membership gave them the power. So even if UND won the lawsuit because the NCAA didn't follow policy, the NCAA had covered their tracks legally to eliminate the nickname. At best a win would have gained UND a few months of using the nickname.
The Settlement Agreement boiled down to a simple trade. UND had to get 2 tribes to approve the name, and in return they got an extra 3 1/2 years to get that approval. Spirit Lake didn't give their local tribe approval until April 2009, 1 1/2 years after the Settlement Agreement and almost 2 years after the original deadline to get approval. That approval would not have counted without the lawsuit. As we all know, Standing Rock never gave approval. The Standing Rock Tribal Council had issued requests to eliminate the nickname starting in 1992, so most knowledgeable people knew from the start that getting approval from both tribes was going to be close to impossible. Having to get approval from both tribes was a difficult task, but it was probably the only thing that the NCAA would accept to allow the extra time. Otherwise they could very well have just allowed the case to go to court because they already had all of their bases covered. UND was in a lose-lose position, the Settlement Agreement was the only Hail Mary pass attempt that was available at the time. Wayne Stenehjem didn't have many cards left to play at that point. There are probably a lot of good reasons not to vote for Stenehjem, but the nickname issue isn't even on the list.
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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:
Here's what hurts me the worst:
If Ralph had lived we'd have come through this much better. Ralph had vision and was a businessman. He probably wouldn't like or agree with it, but he could change as the business environment changed around him. And he was pragmatic. He would've led a move to a new name and it would've had de facto fan base wide support.
How dare I say that?
That's from a November 12, 2015, KVLY news story. Ralph saw change coming already in the late 1990s.
Think about this: Ralph said "five years" in the late 1990s. Gee, about five years later what opened? REA. Imagine if Ralph's idea had passed muster and the arena would've been rolled out with a new nickname as well, with Ralph's imprimatur.
There have been other reports that Ralph saw the name change coming. He spent time studying the issue, including looking at the relationship between Florida State and the Seminole tribes. That was reported years ago, including Ralph telling UND that they should work on their relationship with the tribes.
Kupchella started as president in 1999, so the conversation discussed in that story must have happened in 1999. 5 years from then would have been 2004, so Ralph missed predicting the NCAA mandate by 1 year.
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1 hour ago, hrkac said:
Why would the hell would the Engelstad's give control to UND?
Because UND owns the land, the lease on the land is for a limited time, and there is supposed to be a contract to turn the building over to UND after a specific time (I believe it was 30 years from the time it opened). And the donation was made for the benefit of the University of North Dakota.
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1 hour ago, Texas rancher said:
The bison will fail in the fcs, sounds like a broken record around Sioux sports. What does Boise state have that ndsu does not have? A blue field?
Almost 3 times as many people in their metro area? More than 600,000 people in the Boise metro versus about 225,000 in the Fargo metro.
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2 hours ago, siouxweet said:whoever scheduled this series for UND should be fired, nothing good can come out of these two glorified practices this weekend. same thing goes for omaha and scheduling ASU a couple of weeks ago.
UND schedules games like this to help build college hockey. It's the same reason they started playing Bemidji, played teams like Mankato State in the early years, and even played American International in the old days. Michigan did it for UND in the late 1940s. That's how new programs get a chance to become established.
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8 hours ago, Benny Baker said:
What a tireless defense of Dan Hammer! 82SiouxGuy must be Dan's wife or some other close relative.
Classic 8 year old attempt at an insult. About par for many of your posts. What's next, something about cooties?
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Another NDSU troll trying to take a shot at someone with a nonsense post. Guess you can't just argue your case based on the merits. And being a little brother would be a first for me since I've been the oldest brother my whole life.