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I wish there was something we could do on the home front so all of you displaced Sioux fans could see or at least hear the game and not be dependent on a system that obviously is inferior to everything else out there. Any suggestions? I'm up for doing what I can for you on the home front.

The PA announcer was very good. He's only 18?!? I read somewhere, when reading about Brooks earlier, that the hockey game was sold out. Could've fooled me. I believe attendance was anounced at around 10,400. I don't remember the exact number but that was close. Lots of empty seats. But it was a gorgeous day today, could be most wanted to enjoy the last day of summer. Just after the fight, while the milling around, waiting for decisions, the camera went to and stayed on a fan holding up a sign that said the Fighting Sioux name would live forever, or something close to that. Got a standing ovation from the few thousand still there. I have to say that I was extremely proud of the fans for their response to the Canadian national anthem. Long, loud appause. Classy.

I honestly don't mean what I am about to say to be misconstructed as being mean and spiteful. But I have, as we all have, been reading what KnowFacts and GrahamKracker have been posting in the Sioux Name threads. What I have noticed is the deterioration of their comments. They came on initially stating their case and there have been responses opposing their views. Once it appeared that that Spirit Lake was not going to support us, their posts got more venomous. Then the NC$$ denied UND's appeal, the postings became nastier but seemed to be coming from way out in left field. They started personal attacks, that as a recipient of many, don't make sense. Taking facts out of context and delivering entire diatribes of nonsense are what they have been doing to incite us into responding to their nonsense. Instead of reveling in what would seem to be victories for their cause, they're sinking lower and lower in their comments against us who support the name. Here's where somebody is going to think I'm being mean but given their recent posts, I really am concerned for their mental health. Maybe we should back off?

He was tied up in the corner with a Manitoba player when he got slapped a few. They skated toward the blue line and the slash/fight happened. He did get his punches in then. He wasn't as feisty as usual tonight, guess he didn't have to be.

Prpich was hit in the face about four times a couple of minutes before the slash. Looked like Manitoba was looking to start a fight.

No misconducts were announced.

No, sweetie, your resorting to name calling, attempting to degrade who I am and where I come from isn't anything new in my life. I've heard it all my life and not in the polite terms you use. You missed the point again. In spite of all of that, I have made fantastic achievements in my life. My point, dear, is that anyone can do what I have done. IF they want to, if they drop the cloak of self pity and the 'white man' won't let me' mentality. "Self absorded" is that what you call knowledge and pride in your heritage, ok. I am damed self absorded. "Prideful", you betcha!!! "Ignorant", I don't know why you said that unless it's because I don't agree with you? "Ignorant" because as a minority I don't lie down, face the wall with my head covered and accept only what life offers me? OK, I'm ignorant. When did I ever ask you to be a Fighting Martinez? I was asked if I had a problem with an ethnic name, I don't. This prideful woman, me, did say I would love a team called the Fighting Martinez'. Don't remember that statement directed at you. You, sweet thing, could never be in the Martinez clan. We don't feed on self pity, hate, lies, distortions, unwillingness to change, we do not believe we are the only one's in the universe to have suffered injustices nor do we accept that there's nothing we can do to make our lives better than they are. We don't believe that a label, Greaser, or how you use it, "lazy wet-backs go back to where you came from" is who we are. Let me indulge in a little more pridefulness, the Martinez clan is made up of teachers, ministers (oops, someone left the Catholic faith), nurses, lawyers, a couple of doctors, day care workers, social workers, nursing home administrators, homemakers, construction workers, engineers, on and on. Damn, I'm PRIDEFUL.

You are one funny, bitter woman. Go back to Mexico? I'm a fourth generation American of Mexican descent. You'd be more accurate in telling me to go back to Texas ; that's where the first three generations were born. As for diabetes, drug use, public health, etc., I've already been working in that field for almost thrity years, sweetie. The people I help in my field come in all colors and nationalities-even Native Americans. And what have you done with your life besides putting your lifes energy in blaming a label for the evil in yours and others lives? Taco Bell, hey, why not, I drive through and pick up a meal a time or two. Who am I hurting? Don't hate, baby. Finish your education and hope that you can do half the things with it that I have for ALL people that need it not just Native Americans. Vaya Con Dios. Edit: I apologize, in my haste to answer you, I think I may told an untruth. I might only be a third generation Mexican American. The first generation to live in the US actually was living in Mexico than the evil white man came, took over that part of Mexico and it became part of Texas. So really, I may not be a fourth generation American, only a third plus generation American.

Great game! I really expected a closer score. Their defense line looked real good a couple of times. I'm rather p'o'd at the fans. I know that we had a big lead but I think it is so disrespectful to the team to leave before it's over.

No, Homecoming + Football + win = much celebration Hockey tomorrow after recovery much better.

NO! jimdahl reminded us that you said adult duties might prevent you from continuing with the question of the day. Your back!!! Yea, the job is yours!!

Thanks to redwing77 and his find on American Indian education in Sioux Falls, SD school district, another reason for my questions to Kracker. http://www.nativehealth.org/index_files/page0029.htm

I have addressed the use of a Mexican-American name or logo and if used with the respect UND uses the Fighting Sioux name, NO, I would not protest it. I am not protesting the use of the name Aztecs by San Diego. How will that hurt me and who I am? How will that 'keep me down on the farm'? Answer, it won't. I am more in favor of the name Fighting Martinez'. My family name. It accurately denotes what they had to do to grow and reach goals as a people both spiritually, through education and ultimately economically. The first Mexican American to be killed in World War II was a Martinez. The name would also honor him. If anyone told my ancestors that being called Latinos, Chicanos, Hispanics, Mexican-Americans (or more derogagory names), Beaners, Spics, Wet-Backs, Greasers, etc was the reason to not strive to make a better life for themselves and their families or that it would keep them from achieving goals in life, they would have told that person to put down the Tequila, it was frying their brain. The use of the Sioux name is disrespected if UND uses it disrespectfully. The use of the Sioux name is disrespected by those who use the name as an excuse to not make life better for them and theirs. I don't believe that the Lakota/Dakota/Nakota OWN the name and should be allowed to decide who can or cannot use the name. GK is concerned with honoring the name. As I have stated, UND honors the name through the accomplishments or its students and athletes. I challenge GK and the others who want the name changed to honor the Sioux name through their accomplishments. UND using or not using the Sioux name will do nothing to make better lives for themselves and their families.

GK's right about my questions. This is not about 'UND honoring' the Sioux name. This is about a minority using what ever blame can be truthfully or otherwise placed on someone or something else for their lack of accomplishment for their awful plight in life. This country is made up of minorities, white ones too, who through hard work, pride in who they are, and the continued support of their family and friends have climbed out of the 'they're mean to me and won't let me play' mentality that too many, llike GK, keep perpetuating. This 'fight' to keep the Sioux name or to not use the Sioux name is another excuse, another finger pointing that is being used by a minority for real or imagined reasons not to climb out of the 'plight of the Indian' hole and make his/her world a better place to live and raise their children. GK has made it seem as if the American Indians do not have equal advantages because of the use of American Indian names, logos, mascots, etc. If it weren't for the UND Fighting Sioux, the Am would have a better llife. If it weren't for the white man, GK's life would be golden. As a minority, I say that's crap. And not because I am pro-Fighting Sioux. GK and the rest of the American Indians plight in this country wasn't much worse than my ancesters. We too had large pieces of land, cultivated and rich, 'stolen' from us by the white man. We too were slaughtered for imagined riches, etc. etc. As little as my mother's generation, my family had NOTHING, not even a reservation to live on. BOO, HOO. It's over, it's done, move on, it's history. We've over come all the obstacle thrown in our paths and won. My point? My point is life can be a better place to llive and raise you family by working your a$$ off for it, not clinging to a way of life that is obviously keeping you down. Changing the Sioux name, that's not going to change ANYTHING in GK's life. You can honor the Sioux name, GK by affirmative answers to the majority of my questions. That WILL change EVERYTHING for the better in your life and in the life of your children. That's my point, GK. That's the reason for my family history on this board. UND is honoring the Sioux name through the accomplishments of the graduates and athletes of the institution. GK can honor it through your successes in life inspite of the oppression of the whiteman.

You're avoiding the questions. I don't want them lost in a thread so have started our own thread. Kracker, I am formally calling you out. I have spend so much time writing about my family history and their accomplishments, ad nauseum, because of your whining about how mistreated your people are, how there are no oppportuntites for you because your not white, how mommy and daddy didn't finance your education or buy you a car, how people threaten you because your American Indian, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If fourteen Mexican-American siblings who were orphaned when the youngest was months old and the oldest wasn't quite 21 could accomplish what they did with their lives why can't you? Sioux is not a derogatory word. My family members were not respectfully referred to as Mexican American but other degrading terms. I'm not going to repeat what I already have about my proud heritage and wonderful family. You choose to ignore and belittle all I've written about them and have conveniently taken information out of context and attempted to attack me with your distortions. Tell me about your families' accomplishments. 1. How many of your children/siblings/cousins have attended college? 2. How many of your children/siblings/cousins have jobs? 3. How many of your children/siblings/cousins are economically stable>not counting government assistance? 4. How many of your children/siblings/cousins can enter any room and know they belong because they were brought up with pride in who and what they are, not who and what someone else says they are? 5. How many of your children/siblings/counsins know that they are more than American Indian? 6. How many of your children/siblings/cousins speak and understand their native language? 7. How many of your children/siblings/cousins believe that there is more to life in addition to being Lakota/Nakota/Dakota? 8. How has the name Sioux kept you from accomplishing your goals? 9. How has the name Sioux hurt your children? 10. How has the name Sioux made you less of a person? 11. Where is it written that the only Sioux are Lakota/Nakota/Dakota? 12. What obstacles have your children/siblings/cousins hurdled to achieve your dreams and goals? .Come on Krack, do a little bragging of your own. Answer the questions You think because the rest of us don't live on reservations we have lost our sense of heritage, of where we come from and who we are. Your wrong. My ma was the last of those fourteen siblings who accomplished great things with their lives. I have pictures of the family gathering after her burial. Want to see them? What you would see is a bunch of 'brown sisters and brothers', eating Mexican food made by the women folk, children running all over the place and going to the nearest adult for a hug or a kiss when they felt the need, you would see traditional dress, see people swaying to traditional music, 'brown brothers and sisters' celebrating the life of the last matriach of the family. So don't give us your American Indians are the only ones with an intact culture because they live on reservations BS. The rest of us, the white, black, brown, yellow, purple and green ones, have kept our cultures intact off the tit. Try it. You keep repeating that we're not Sioux. Your wrong. I am a Sioux. I am a Sioux because the students and athletes of the University that I graduated from are known as the Sioux. So in addition to all the other things I am, I am a Fighting Sioux and a Fighting Sioux I will be for life. And every student before me, every student after me, every athlete, every fan of UND athletics are Fighting Sioux. Deal with it!

I don't think that Whiplash the Monkey's recipes will be authentic. He's a cowboy. Mexican monkeys are bacquero's. Taz, I'm sorry but we really didn't have recipes in my family. We learned by example and the ingredients changed a bit every time a dish was made.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS KRACK. BRAG A LITTLE. I promise not to bellittle your family's accomplishments the way you have mine. Come one, big guy, what besides your whining about the oppression you have suffered from the white man has your family done to make their world, the world of their off spring and future offspring a better place? Go ahead take more swings at me but answer the da$% questions. Oh wait, you can't, there's nothing. Sorry, I'll quit asking. Go on with your 'white man ruined my past, present and future'. Obviously, that all you've got. Sorry. Yup, I'm Mexican-American, I'm Fighting Sioux, I'm Catholic, I'm a bleeding heart liberal, I'm a friend, I'm a mom, I'm a career woman, I'm an Aunt, I'm a sister, I'm a whole lot of things. I'm not a victim of my circumstance.