MNHawk

If we are going to hire a coordinator, I’d go with this guy: https://gojacks.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/ryan-olson/2521 Give me a guy who is young, can develop dominant offensive lines in the MVFC, and has no UND ties.

Speculation is enjoying the ride for many. Fun to throw names out and chat about candidates. Take a deep breath.

See if Vince Kehres has any interest in a HC job.

He better have a darn good reason for his Cal Poly tenure being terrible. And only lasting one year at ASU. Seems like he’s been trending in the wrong direction the last few years.

He hasn’t done anything good since 2016. Wasn’t a very good OC at Cal or ASU. Struggled as a HC at Cal Poly. No thanks.

Might as well ask Eck if he wants to move back to the Dakotas.

Here are a few names I would explore, with no knowledge of their desire to come: Chris Winter, Wartburg Jeff Thorne, former North Central HC Vince Kehres, Toledo DC Spence Nowinsky, Memphis DC I would guess that Nowinsky is out of reach unless he wants to come back to the Midwest. He is from Minnesota. Jeff Thorne has been out of football the last couple years, but may want to come back once his son Payton is done playing at Auburn (senior this year). Kehres was a successful coach at Mount Union, taking over that spot from his father. Now has been successful at Toledo as their DC. Winter has turned Wartburg into a national championship contender at the D3 level and is very young. Just wanted to throw out a few names with no UND connections.

If we count the COVID year, Bubba is 83-71 and 1-6 in the playoffs in his head coaching career across two different schools. How long do I have to have faith? He’s at 154 career games. Once he gets to 300 career games can I start judging him based on his mediocre results and setting expectations accordingly?

If you’re curious how a DeBoer tenure would have looked like at UND, you should take a look at what Troy Taylor’s tenure at Sacramento State looked like. That’s the best comparison in my opinion. DeBoer wouldn’t have been here for a decade, but he would have taken a struggling program and quickly built one of the best FCS teams in the country.

Has Landry called plays before? I assumed that Caruso was the play caller at UST. They are definitely running the same Caruso offense that they ran in the D3 days.

Probably super seniors with COVID years that are considering returning or transferring , and potentially the all-MVFC 1st team LB who is a sophomore.

After seeing their offenses over the past couple years, I’d contact the Idaho OC long before I reached out to the UND OC.

Spence Nowinsky jumps off the page to me. Successful MAC DC with lots of ties to the midwest based off his coaching history. Mankato grad.

As a lifelong UND fan, over the last couple seasons I’ve started to watch less and less. I watch the first couple of games until it becomes clear that we are mediocre again, and then I start to scoreboard watch on my phone and spend my Saturdays doing something else. This program is just not really interesting at all right now, and I think the fan base is shrinking as a result. If I had to guess, I’ll watch even less in 2024.

7-4 with a first round exit. Never would have guessed that before the season.

If we do go through a coaching search, I would love to see us draw from a broader pool of candidates than just guys with UND ties. Jeff Thorne and Spence Nowinsky come to mind as seemingly good coaches with successful track records and are familiar with the Midwest. No idea how interested they would be, but hopefully we consider those types of candidates.

Gotta stay aggressive offensively even with the lead. Can’t get conservative in the second half. Make Freund watch some film of the Richmond game a few years back as a cautionary tale lol.

I don’t think anyone should be excited to see a coordinator step away in mid February. Tough time to find a new coach, many guys that were available after the season have already found new gigs. My uneducated guess is that we will promote from within.

Let’s set some expectations for next year so no one can say we are moving goalposts throughout 2023. What would Bubba have to do in 2023 in order for you to be happy to keep him for 2024? Make the playoffs? Top 8 seed? Quarterfinal appearance? I would need to see a quarterfinal appearance or a second round appearance+a win over NDSU in order to feel like we are moving the program forward and be happy keeping Bubba for 24.

Is there any reason to believe that this is a possibility?

I 100% agree that he won’t be going anywhere for what it’s worth.

Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but given all the coaching talk: I just saw that WMU is letting go of their head coach. I wonder if some FCS programs won’t look at Jeff Thorne. You have to think he would be a great hire for a lot of Midwest schools.

We didn’t beat one last year either. In fact I’d argue we’ve lost our last 6 opportunities to have a statement win. 2020 @JMU 2021 @SDSU 2021 NDSU 2022 SDSU 2022 @NDSU 2022 @Weber Those are the games where the coaching staff should be earning contract extensions in year 8/9. I know these are tough games, but I’d hope in year 9 we would at least be competitive and winning a third or a quarter of these games. Instead, we’ve shown a complete inability to take the next step as a program and beat these elite teams.

We finished with between 4 and 7 wins in 18, 19, 21, and 22. Our last four full seasons. Seems like a reasonable expectation for next year. Given that consistency, it would require significant off-season news in order for me to move off of that expectation.

If we had beat Weber at the Alerus yesterday, and then went to Bozeman and got out to a 24-0 deficit in the same way that we lost to Weber yesterday, I would still be questioning the inconsistency of this team. I would still be asking why this team does not seem ready to play each and every game. I would still wonder why this team seems to play below its potential for long stretches of games consistently. And 2 playoff wins in 9 years is still not good enough.