UNDlaw80
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8 hours ago, homer said:
Oh, is that how it is supposed to work?
How many articles have we read about Russia and piss tapes and MLK Jr statues removed and Sinatra family being upset at the inauguration? This is why you will see the outrage over this and the press refusing to ask Biden about it even why Biden goes into hiding again is concerning. I don’t think it’s R’s playing the victim.
All those stories were reported in due course. The same will occur with Biden's scandal if/when more information surfaces to corroborate the initial sketchy accusations coming from the fringe right. Was news of Trump's piss tape splattered across outlets like AP and Reuters the minute the story broke, with sensationalized headlines? Of course not. As such, neither will the Bidens' ‘scandal’.
Regardless, every President is crapped on by certain media outlets. Obama was eviscerated by right-leaning news. Did Obama incessantly complain about it? No, he went about his job instead.
Trump should stop acting like a petulant manchild and do his job. That said, I'm fully aware that being the perpetual victim is part of Trump's appeal. It reinforces a sense of victimhood and resentment that is attractive to his supporters.....i.e. people who think America has left them behind. This is painfully evident at Trump rallies when he fosters this "we've been wronged" sentiment and then viciously lashes out at these perceived slights to thunderous applause.
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21 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
So platform companies, FB, twitter are censoring speech yet have immunity and you have no problem.
They're non-governmental entities. They can do what they want as it pertains to the 1st amendment. .
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7 minutes ago, MrEdway said:
Because if MSM doesn't report it, it doesn't exist. Jesus Christ...did you not see the contrast between the two town halls?
So we're back to the "big mad media" "poor poor Trump" fallback?
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7 minutes ago, MrEdway said:
Just stating the obvious truth. Question...you gonna vote for the Biden Crime Syndicate to run the country?
I voted for the Biden crime syndicate over the Trump crime syndicate. Lesser of two evils.
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2 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:
FBI has had it for almost a year. Either it's genuine or fake, but they have just sat on it. Seeing a pattern here.
If the FBI had it for a year and did nothing, it's likely a big nothing burger. Well, unless the FBI is part of the 'deep state'. Are the Trumpsters gonna go there again? Jesus Christ.
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11 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
You are all about power for dens. Piss on freedom. That is what this about. Suppress on digital media and no curious to investigate by the dem aligned media. That is not good for freedom and our country. But you don't care.
I’m more of a Constitutionalist than a Dem. Freedom of speech/press should be unregulated by the government. However that doesn’t hold true outside of government. In terms of free speech/media, non-governmental entities should be able to do what they want.
Do I ethically agree with how they act sometimes? Of course not. But they should have every right to do as such under the 1st Amendment.
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10 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:
So again, you dont listen but just apply a preconceived notion thatbdoesnt natch onto facts that were stated.
Its like facts short out your cognitive ability and just revert back to the playbook and pull out any card or another.
The post had zero to do with Trump/victim but gonthere because there is no possible way to defend the original argument.
Playbooks and talking points? Your original point was the #1 Trump fallback "the media". Yes, we get it already. Poor poor Trump and the meanie media.
Gimme a break. Instead of intelligently articulating a point, you're repeating the playbook.
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Who knows if Biden did this. I wouldn't put it past any politician nowadays. That said, this 'scandal' would be taken more seriously if it wasn't being used as Trump's October Surprise 2 weeks before the election. This, in and of itself, also screams dirty politics; not to mention all the info came to light via questionable sources.
Should Biden be investigated? Without question. However any respectable media outlet isn't gonna jump the gun (aka "Worst scandal ever!!" "Biden and Obama are going down!!!) like fringe-right wing outlets are reporting for obvious political reasons. It reeks of desperation. C;mon, you guys aren't fooling anybody.
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3 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:
in no way whatsoever, thats a massive stretch and basically a change the subject. If trump did what Biden HAS DONE he and his accomplices should be charged convicted and jailed.
It is nothing more than helping you maybe acknowledge the massive cooperative effert to push propaganda inbthe modern media and the fact that there is basically no more objective press reporting, and some of the protectioms addorded to the old idea of press should no longer be extended to these falsely protected PR firms.
Gimme a break. Trump is the biggest victim card player player around. And it's just not in regards to the media, he plays the victim with everything.
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3 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:
If this situation was Trump and his kid od Bush and his Kid, or reagan and his kid or Romney and gis reptilian offspring....
100% of all news and media. overage would be deafening and would not stop until they were destroyed.
If you cant see that, you are wrong and need to figure out life still.
So, basically, you guys are playing the 'poor Trump' victim card again.
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2 hours ago, Bison06 said:
I’d be interested to hear from any of our left leaning friends on here and their thoughts on this Twitter and Facebook scandal. Even if you say the story is unconfirmed, how can a story written by a journalist at the country’s fourth largest newspaper be censored? This is outrageous regardless of how you feel about the story. These people need to be in front of congress Monday morning getting their butts handed to them.
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44 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:
Won't work this time. Only the overtly willing weak minded that already wear the tin foil hats will buy it. They're voting for Trump anyway.
I wonder if this will just sway more undecideds to Biden?
I've been spending some time calling for Biden and the Democrats. I've done this for years. Two key questions get a lot of affirmative answers. From independents and Democrats.
Did you vote for all the Democrats?
Have you already voted?
Others are interesting also. But, Trump is driving folks to even vote against local Republicans that have held their offices for a long time. Reason? Can't trust Republicans anymore.
Too bad. Some decent local Republican public servants are going away.
Also, Democrats are voting in abnormally high numbers. That is not normal.
The political landscape is entirely different this year. I think the ‘scandal’ will help Trump shore up some of the Red vote. It’ll help in the south. Most importantly Florida.
Nonetheless it will make no difference with the complacent democrat and minority vote; two demographics whose turn-out was low 4 years ago who look to be voting at high levels this time around. There are few undecided this year. It'll come down to turnout/motivation; hence why the GOP is doing everything it can to impede easy access to voting.
We'll see.
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Well, now we know what the GOP’s ‘October Surprise’ is. They’re banking on 2016’s game-plan to work again.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden is waist-high in ****. That said, the backstory of how Rudy obtained this info sounds questionable as hell too. Either way, until it’s verified/disproven the GOP will milk the crap out of this. "The worst scandal of all time!!!" "This makes Watergate look like kindergarten!!!"
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7 minutes ago, FSSD said:
Thank for the reply, I will bow out of this thread. I thought that he may a reason and was looking to cull some information to gain a better understanding of the various positions. Peace.
Anarchists can be both left and right. It’s the extreme position on the Y-axis of a political graph.
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4 hours ago, Hayduke1 said:
When Desr Leader loses the election, and has exhausted amy means to stay in power, he will flee our United States of America. The cult would be wise to follow him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/17/politics/trump-election-legal-reckoning/index.html
Without some of the protections afforded him by the presidency, Trump will become vulnerable to multiple investigations looking into possible fraud in his financial business dealings as a private citizen -- both as an individual and through his company. He faces defamation lawsuits sparked by his denials of accusations made by women who have alleged he assaulted them, including E. Jean Carroll, the former magazine columnist who has accused him of rape. And then there are claims he corrupted the presidency for his personal profits.
From a legal perspective, the Manhattan DA’s investigation could get interesting considering (if he’s voted out) there exists little incentive for the GOP to protect Trump. Doing as such for his pre-presidential business dealings would be a liability at that point. That’s the big difference between the Trump Org and, say, the Clinton Foundation (which was intertwined with political mechanisms from the start).
Trump obviously is showing trepidation. He has shielded his financial information since day 1 It’s now being kicked up to the SC. Plus he's relocated to FL, hence he doesn’t have to file income tax with NY that discloses all of this information. And now he's talking about leaving the country if he loses.
That said, we're in unchartered waters considering he'd be an ex-President if/when this goes through.
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9 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said:
Most viewers, basically will come down to which campaign has more bot farms engaged.
Nah, ratings will be predicated on entertainment value. They always are. As such I fully expect Trump’s ratings to be higher.
His supporters will tune in to watch Trump ‘tell it like it is’; his detractors will tune in to witness the train-wreck in action. I know I will.Love or hate him, Trump is the constant showman.
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1 hour ago, Shawn-O said:
The polling organizations are having a hard-time getting their hands around a statistically relevant "likely voter" sample set. And Wall Street knows it.
That was the scenario 4 years ago more so than today. Voter turnout was the lowest in decades and polls indicated a large contingent of ‘undecideds’ up to the end, of which most pundits mistakenly assumed would vote blue. The landscape is flipped upside down this year. So far early voting turnout is breaking records, and few undecideds exit.
By and large, aggregated polling is relatively accurate. Interesting read out of the Smithsonian:
Polls Are Still As Accurate As They Were 75 Years Agohttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/polls-are-still-accurate-they-were-75-years-ago-180968467/
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1 hour ago, as15 said:
Wonder what the reason was. Maybe he sees all of these other recruits jumping him and foresees a lack of playing time. Happens a lot with these early commits, especially the larger forwards who dominate at lower levels due to physical maturity.
Reminds me of Mitchell Mattson
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That's actually hilarious, but then again I'm not 90.
But yeah, the cult followers will eat it up. But what about the elderly population (being ravaged by Covid) that Trump desperately needs? Trump's off his rocker, or on his meds.
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8 hours ago, Goon said:
Are you justifying this shooting?
Whether the shooting was justified will be decided in court; same for Rittenhouse. But that doesn’t nullify that this dude dug his own grave by embracing needless violence. New video shows him initiating the confrontation. I guess he didn't like cameras. That's quite the upstanding 'patriot' you guys are defending.
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8 hours ago, Hayduke1 said:
Ed Rollins says it is over.
Why?
Because Dear Leader and his cult are hated and insane.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/13/election-poll-biden-leads-trump-17-points
Biden leads Trump by 17 points as election race enters final stage
With election day just three weeks away and millions of votes already cast, some Republicans fear a rout in the races for the presidency, Senate and House of Representatives. Ed Rollins, who advises a pro-Trump super political action committee, told the New York Times: “The president’s political environment is terrible. It’s an uphill battle.”
Asked by the Times if Trump can still turn things around, Rollins replied: “It’s cooked.”
I’m contemplating if Trump has given up. He’s getting slaughtered in the polls, yet still chooses to pander to his base only. From all indications the suburban, woman and elderly vote is slipping away, yet he won't debate Biden, has wasted several advantageous political opportunities, is pulling adds from key battleground states, and still refuses to reach-out to lukewarm Republican 'never Trumpers'. All he's doing is preaching to the converted with his rallies and appearances on Hannity/Limbaugh.
I’m thinking Trump is either thoroughly delusional, or, as the brilliant salesman he is, foresees a losing outcome and is maintaining popularity with his base for future business ventures. Unlike 2016, his political game makes no sense whatsoever .
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5 hours ago, sioux rube said:
5 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said:Cause, like...... science.... right.
But actual science. real data driven science.
Not political Bullshitery.
You stooges might wanna actually read the report you cited instead of posting talking points based on selective data.Results weren't predicated on 'all covid cases'. The CDC studied11 outpatient facilities. Positive cases (85% of whom often/always wore masks) were 3x as likely to be in close contact with a known Covid case. More importantly, positive cases were twice as likely to eat at a restaurant or bar whereby they did not wear a mask in close-contact public settings.
Here's the summary from the study, verbatim :
What is already known about the topic?
Community and close contact exposures contribute to the spread of COVID-19.
What is added by this report?
Findings from a case-control investigation of symptomatic outpatients from 11 U.S. health care facilities found that close contact with persons with known COVID-19 or going to locations that offer on-site eating and drinking options were associated with COVID-19 positivity. Adults with positive SARS-CoV-2 test results were approximately twice as likely to have reported dining at a restaurant than were those with negative SARS-CoV-2 test results.
What are the implications for public health practice?
Eating and drinking on-site at locations that offer such options might be important risk factors associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection. Efforts to reduce possible exposures where mask use and social distancing are difficult to maintain, such as when eating and drinking, should be considered to protect customers, employees, and communities.-
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8 hours ago, TheFlop said:
Radical leftists have months straight of "protests" all peaceful of course. Redneck Proud Boys show up for a couple high profile counter protests. The Left "see, those radical righties are to blame".
A couple of high profile counter protests? Get real. The radical left/right have been going at it for months, particularly in Portland (which seems to be the epicenter of it). Andy Ngô has made a name for himself exploiting these shenanigans for right-wing audiences, even embedding himself with the right wingers.
That said, there is no doubt the radicals on the left are responsible for more of the destruction.
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7 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:
Didn’t know protesting was stupid shenanigans....... it’s sad people cannot protest in peace anymore. Let’s be clear who was approved for legal protest.....
Peaceful protest is more than possible. Over 90% of protests this summer were peaceful. Don't be violent and don't be stupid.
But, similar to the fringe left, your hero chose violence. Info on this clown isn’t hard to obtain. Darwin wins again!!
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Trump is already making excuses in the event he doesn't perform well.
Ahh, pobrecito.
Trump calls NBC's Kristen Welker 'terrible and unfair' before she moderates next debate
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-calls-nbcs-kristen-welker-terrible-and-unfair-before-she-moderates-next-debate