sprig Posted March 13, 2008 Author Posted March 13, 2008 INCH 4X4 Seems like UNH got the best draw in that speculation. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 Seems like UNH got the best draw in that speculation. agree, at least we only have to wait 10 more days til we find out for sure!! Quote
siouxweet Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 Seems like UNH got the best draw in that speculation. and we would have the toughest, but what else is new. this is where having the toughest schedule in the country and taking some lumps early would/will pay off. Quote
sprig Posted March 13, 2008 Author Posted March 13, 2008 If we could dump some WCHA teams, and add CCHA and EZAC teams, the regionals would all appear more favorable. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 If we could dump some WCHA teams, and add CCHA and EZAC teams, the regionals would all appear more favorable. if scsu wins their series uw is out, if msu wins then minny should be out leaving 5 wcha teams Quote
siouxweet Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 if scsu wins their series uw is out, if msu wins then minny should be out leaving 5 wcha teams possibly 6 depending on what duluth does in denver. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 13, 2008 Posted March 13, 2008 possibly 6 depending on what duluth does in denver. for sure as thats the only ay they get in along with uw and minny i think Quote
Goon Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 if scsu wins their series uw is out, if msu wins then minny should be out leaving 5 wcha teams AZ this Bemidji boy agrees with you on this, if those two teams lose in the first rond they are done. I don't care what some of the skippies from UW and UMN say. Quote
farce poobah Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 Let's apply that theory to college backetball too. Do you also believe that Mt. St Mary's, San Diego, or Coppin State are better than Florida, Kentucky, or Syracuse? Let's just put every WCHA team in the NCAA tournament, throw in four other conference winners, and flip a conduct an NBA-style lottery for the final two spots. The system is what it is... For those of you ripping on how bad the CCHA is, remember that their fourth place team from a year ago won the national championship. In basketball? I have no idea who's better. I think Kentucky sucks this year but that may just be the local media convincing themselves that Tubby will save the Gophers. I never said everyone in the WCHA should get in. My point was that I like having selections driven by Simple Math. (I remember the SIOUX getting totally hosed in 1983 by a corrupt selection committee, and yes I'm still piffed about it.) Simple Math doesn't trade an NCAA spot for a couple extra road games. Simple Math says there should be 7 WCHA teams in, great. (KRACH says 8.) Last year it was less, and it picked the #4 CCHA team - that's fine. Quote
gopherz Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 AZ this Bemidji boy agrees with you on this, if those two teams lose in the first rond they are done. I don't care what some of the skippies from UW and UMN say. UW is out for sure without a series win one would think. I think the Gophers still have a chance if we win a game, which is embarrassing that we would even still be in consideration but its sadly true being that its going to take some teams outside of the bubble to make some serious noise to pass us. I agree neither team deserves it without a series win. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 UW is out for sure without a series win one would think. I think the Gophers still have a chance if we win a game, which is embarrassing that we would even still be in consideration but its sadly true being that its going to take some teams outside of the bubble to make some serious noise to pass us. I agree neither team deserves it without a series win. the gophers arent even a lock if they win 2 games if the go to st paul and lose the play in game. 2 losses and they are finished i believe Quote
Gopherguy33 Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 the gophers arent even a lock if they win 2 games if the go to st paul and lose the play in game. 2 losses and they are finished i believe Unless BU and Vermont, UMD etc play well into next weekend, If the Gophers win 1 game this weekend I think they will make it. I would rather sweep Mankato and not worry. If they make it to St. Paul, they are a lock. We both have our glasses firmly in place Looking forward to a great weekend of hockey!! Love this years league, so many interesting playoffs. Quote
gopherz Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 Unless BU and Vermont, UMD etc play well into next weekend, If the Gophers win 1 game this weekend I think they will make it. I would rather sweep Mankato and not worry. If they make it to St. Paul, they are a lock. We both have our glasses firmly in place Looking forward to a great weekend of hockey!! Love this years league, so many interesting playoffs. Agreed with Gopherguy, lots of teams need to play really well behind us to pass us, if we win a game I think we still make it, and I do think we are a lock if we get to the play-in game, especially if its a sweep. That would put Mankato on the bubble I would think. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted March 14, 2008 Posted March 14, 2008 The one advantage all the WCHA bubble teams have is that all the teams chasing them in the PWR are playing non TUCs, which won't help their RPI. Even if WI and UMTC lose their series this weekend, because they lose to top 10 teams, they shouldn't move very much in the PWR. The biggest killer for the 13/14 PWR team will be conf upsets. ECAC is ripe for this, maybe Hockey East as well. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Ferris State win hurt us tonight - they moved ahead of NE in RPI and dropped them out as a TUC. We may need that extra TUC win to stay ahead of Miami. After tonight games, here are the pwr. 1 CO College (WC) 23 .5907 2 Michigan (CC) 23 .5904 3 New Hampshire (HE) 22 .5754 4 North Dakota (WC) 21 .5878 5 Miami (CC) 21 .5820 6 Denver U (WC) 18 .5601 7 Mich State (CC) 18 .5595 8 Clarkson (EC) 17 .5461 9 Boston Coll (HE) 15 .5402 10 St Cloud (WC) 14 .5426 11 MSU-Mankato (WC) 13 .5356 12 Wisconsin (WC) 12 .5281 13 Minnesota (WC) 12 .5237 14 Notre Dame (CC) 9 .5319 15 Harvard (EC) 9 .5210 16 Ferris State (CC) 7 .5080 17 Boston Univ (HE) 7 .5259 18 Vermont (HE) 7 .5204 19 Minn-Duluth (WC) 7 .5178 20 Mass-Amherst (HE) 6 .5109 21 Michigan Tech (WC) 5 .5082 22 Princeton (EC) 5 .5254 23 Cornell (EC) 3 .5153 24 Quinnipiac (EC) 3 .5081 25 Providence (HE) 3 .5072 Quote
stickboy1956 Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Drop us off the list.... One of the team's chasing UMTC lost tonight as well - Notre Dame. Not much movement after game 1. I'm not convinced the Gophers drop below 14 even if they lose tommorow, barring some upsets. Quote
gopherz Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 One of the team's chasing UMTC lost tonight as well - Notre Dame. Not much movement after game 1. I'm not convinced the Gophers drop below 14 even if they lose tommorow, barring some upsets. I hope we drop off if we lose tomorrow. Quote
Goon Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Ferris State win hurt us tonight - they moved ahead of NE in RPI and dropped them out as a TUC. We may need that extra TUC win to stay ahead of Miami. After tonight games, here are the pwr. 1 CO College (WC) 23 .5907 2 Michigan (CC) 23 .5904 3 New Hampshire (HE) 22 .5754 4 North Dakota (WC) 21 .5878 5 Miami (CC) 21 .5820 6 Denver U (WC) 18 .5601 7 Mich State (CC) 18 .5595 8 Clarkson (EC) 17 .5461 9 Boston Coll (HE) 15 .5402 10 St Cloud (WC) 14 .5426 11 MSU-Mankato (WC) 13 .5356 12 Wisconsin (WC) 12 .5281 13 Minnesota (WC) 12 .5237 14 Notre Dame (CC) 9 .5319 15 Harvard (EC) 9 .5210 16 Ferris State (CC) 7 .5080 17 Boston Univ (HE) 7 .5259 18 Vermont (HE) 7 .5204 19 Minn-Duluth (WC) 7 .5178 20 Mass-Amherst (HE) 6 .5109 21 Michigan Tech (WC) 5 .5082 22 Princeton (EC) 5 .5254 23 Cornell (EC) 3 .5153 24 Quinnipiac (EC) 3 .5081 25 Providence (HE) 3 .5072 It will be interesting to see what happens as the games play themselves out. I find it hard to believe that Wiscosin and Minnesota are that solidly in after both losing their games tonight. I still think it is only going to be 5-6 teams getting into the big dance. BU won tonight and dropped in the PWR. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 I stand corrected - Ferris State being a TUC helps us - they were 2-0 vs Miami. I wonder if they will stay a TUC even with 2 losses to ND? Quote
Dean Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens as the games play themselves out. I find it hard to believe that Wiscosin and Minnesota are that solidly in after both losing their games tonight. I still think it is only going to be 5-6 teams getting into the big dance. BU won tonight and dropped in the PWR. That why they play the games. Regarding Wisky and Minny, it doesn't take a genius that Pairwise bubble teams aren't going to be on solid ground when they lose their games. Quote
stickboy1956 Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens as the games play themselves out. I find it hard to believe that Wiscosin and Minnesota are that solidly in after both losing their games tonight. I still think it is only going to be 5-6 teams getting into the big dance. BU won tonight and dropped in the PWR. That why they play the games. Regarding Wisky and Minny, it doesn't take a genius that Pairwise bubble teams aren't going to be on solid ground when they lose their games. UMTC and Wisco will drop a bit if they lose tonight. Then it all depends what teams behind them do. Say Notre Dame manages to win its series and move on - what happens to their PWR if they lose 2 at the Joe. The same with Harvard - If they stumble next week they may drop back. The bottom line - the season is not automatically over for UMTC or Wisco if they lose tonight. The NCAA's aren't a sure thing but it's not out of reach either. Quote
HeidiSioux62 Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 If I understand this correctly, UMTC and Wisco can still get into the NCAAs even if they loose tonight depending on how some of the teams behind them do. Harvard won big last night but Notre Dame lost and is danger of loosing again tonight as Ferris State is real hot right now. UMTC and Wisco sit tied for 12, Notre Dame and Harvard are tied for 14 and Ferris State, BU and Vermont are tied for 16 (along with Duluth) Depending on how the stars align, there is a possiblility that both Wisco and UMTC make the tourney. Listen to everyone scream if that happens cause both teams could be under .500 (if they both lose tonight) Quote
gopherz Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 If I understand this correctly, UMTC and Wisco can still get into the NCAAs even if they loose tonight depending on how some of the teams behind them do. Harvard won big last night but Notre Dame lost and is danger of loosing again tonight as Ferris State is real hot right now. UMTC and Wisco sit tied for 12, Notre Dame and Harvard are tied for 14 and Ferris State, BU and Vermont are tied for 16 (along with Duluth) Depending on how the stars align, there is a possiblility that both Wisco and UMTC make the tourney. Listen to everyone scream if that happens cause both teams could be under .500 (if they both lose tonight) People will freak...deservedly so Quote
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