Utah Valley St. adding football?

[rabidrabbit]

Their students want it, and it's currently not there for UVSU.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10817

HMMMM. How can a weak, community college go from JUCO to D-I, then likely add football, and the mighty Sioux have to tie themselves up in knots despite being very successful in D-II?

Come on Sioux! Join your peers!!!!

[MplsBison]

Sure, SDSU would love to have UND in the Mid Con and Great West.

But if you mention USD tagging along they explode in a fit of rage, citing reports of USD financial problems.

[rabidrabbit]

Sure, SDSU would love to have UND in the Mid Con and Great West.

But if you mention USD tagging along they explode in a fit of rage, citing reports of USD financial problems.

This Rabbit would like to see the NCC mostly move up, together preferred. That includes USD. Their financial situation is not nearly as strong as UND, nor do they have the facilities or size of the other 3 Dakota "Flagship" campuses.

Like UND vs NDSU, there is an intense rivalry. But we'd like the crowds that even divisional play would make.

All I can say is that based on the posts at the Coyote board, there isn't the fervor, numbers or discussion to make it happen on the short term.

TO THE SIOUX - This Rabbit hopes to see you in the GWFC soon, and the Mid-Con in the not too distant future. However, I doubt that it'll happen this year. (To get an invite).

[Cratter]

HMMMM. How can a weak, community college go from JUCO to D-I, then likely add football

Because they are the 8th fastest growing school in the country, with over 25,000 students.

They are in the process of moving from college to university status.

[aff]

Sure, SDSU would love to have UND in the Mid Con and Great West.

But if you mention USD tagging along they explode in a fit of rage, citing reports of USD financial problems.

I know, being realistic is sooooo over-rated. Why do that, when you can act like finances have nothing to do with an athletic department.

[USA Hockey]

I know, being realistic is sooooo over-rated. Why do that, when you can act like finances have nothing to do with an athletic department.

The reality is is that most athletic departments in this country are in debt right now. If you look at the Division I task force study or www.ope.edu.gov/athletics you will realize that the schools that have made a Divsion I jump are also in debt right now.

[The Sicatoka]

The reality is is that most athletic departments in this country are in debt right now. If you look at the Division I task force study or www.ope.edu.gov/athletics you will realize that the schools that have made a Divsion I jump are also in debt right now.

http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/

A very good database thanks to the Indianapolis newspaper.

[RD17]

The reality is is that most athletic departments in this country are in debt right now. If you look at the Division I task force study or www.ope.edu.gov/athletics you will realize that the schools that have made a Divsion I jump are also in debt right now.

The economics of D-I below the level of the BCS schools are not good. Pick any mid-major school out of that link that The Sicatoka provided and look at their financials. The amount of student fees and institutional support going to athletics at most of those places is staggering. The NCAA also released a study about a year ago showing the negative financial impact of reclassifying to D-I. But, apparently the ancillary benefits of being D-I far outweigh the increased costs for most of these schools (including UND). Short of D-I placing another moratorium on membership, I don't think the exodus from D-II to D-I is going to stop anytime soon.

[Shawn-O]

http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/

A very good database thanks to the Indianapolis newspaper.

Well, there goes my afternoon. Great link.