2017 NHL Expansion Draft

[cberkas]

Vegas Golden Knights: last 6 picks

Stoner

Haula

W. Karlsson

T. van Riemsdyk

Fleury

Schmidt

[MafiaMan]

On 6/19/2017 at 7:43 AM, MafiaMan said:

Ken Holland really sending  message to Mrazek.  Apparently Petr thinks quite highly of himself and some of his Detroit teammates did not approve of his antics this past season.

 

On 6/19/2017 at 7:03 PM, cberkas said:

Still a dumb move by Holland, Vegas takes Mrazek and flips him to Arizona who needs a goalie. 

 

On 6/20/2017 at 6:09 AM, MafiaMan said:

Possibly a genius move in protecting someone else he really wanted "untouchable" while exposing Mrazek...figuring the Golden Knights will be taking Marc-Andre Fleury anyways.  

He's Ken Holland...and we're not.  

Like I said, genius move!

[cberkas]

17 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

 

 

Like I said, genius move!

McPhee looked stupid passing on Mrazek and Raanta.

McPhee took a goalie that was going to have to be waved by the Islanders, Snow made a good move to get what he need to keep Travares by freeing up cap space for the peace they need.

Looks like Vegas is tanking this year, while Pittsburg makes the playoffs with a AHL backup. 

[MDtoGF]

Some expansion draft thoughts. Remember .. this is in no way the final team plus Berube is a UFA https://seamoresports.com/2017/06/21/expansion-draft-three-thoughts/

[MafiaMan]

On 6/18/2017 at 10:02 AM, cberkas said:

Garth Snow should be fired. 

Only Snow would protect 2 defensemen in the AHL over Nelson and Strome.

 

1 hour ago, cberkas said:

McPhee took a goalie that was going to have to be waved by the Islanders, Snow made a good move to get what he need to keep Travares by freeing up cap space for the peace they need.

Sounds like you're a fan today...what's tomorrow's forecast?  

[cberkas]

4 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

 

Sounds like you're a fan today...what's tomorrow's forecast?  

Not a fan of the Islanders and Snow has been a bad GM.

Snow got McPhee to take a goalie that was going to get sent back to the AHL.

[cberkas]

2 hours ago, Roosevelt83 said:

Bold prediction : Vegas will make the playoffs next year and Pittsburgh will not

That AHL backup will be taking Pittsburgh back to the playoffs while Fleury leads Vegas to last place. 

Oh and Fleury was told in March he was going to Vegas.

[The Sicatoka]

5 hours ago, Roosevelt83 said:

Bold prediction : Vegas will make the playoffs next year and Pittsburgh will not

 

[Ray77]

6 hours ago, Roosevelt83 said:

Bold prediction : Vegas will make the playoffs next year and Pittsburgh will not

Nothing like going off the deep end because a sports hero of yours gets moved to a new team.  Heck, even Wayne Gretzky played for 4 different NHL teams and crazily enough, the world kept turning.

[The Sicatoka]

Here's the list (just picks, no trade acquires):

Forwards (14):
Teemu Pulkkinen (Arizona Coyotes)
William Carrier (Buffalo Sabres)
Tomas Nosek (Detroit Red Wings)
Cody Eakin (Dallas Stars)
Jonathan Marchessault (Florida Panthers)
Connor Brickley (Carolina Hurricanes)
Chris Thorburn (Winnipeg Jets)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare (Philadelphia Flyers)
James Neal (Nashville Predators)
Brendan Leipsic (Toronto Maple Leafs)
David Perron (St. Louis Blues)
Oscar Lindberg (New York Rangers)
Erik Haula (Minnesota Wild)
William Karlsson (Columbus Blue Jackets)

Defensemen (13): 
Luca Sbisa (Vancouver Canucks)
Jon Merrill (New Jersey Devils)
Brayden McNabb (Los Angeles Kings)
Jason Garrison (Tampa Bay Lightning)
Deryk Engelland (Calgary Flames)
Colin Miller (Boston Bruins)
Marc Methot (Ottawa Senators)
David Schlemko (San Jose Sharks)
Griffin Reinhart (Edmonton Oilers)
Alexei Emelin (Montreal Canadiens)
Clayton Stoner (Anaheim Ducks)
Trevor van Riemsdyk (Chicago Blackhawks)
Nate Schmidt (Washington Capitals)

Goalies (3): 
Calvin Pickard (Colorado Avalanche)
J-F Berube (New York Islanders)
Marc-Andre Fleury (Pittsburgh Penguins)

I prediction of the 30 names selected by Vegas last night that some of them will never wear a VGK jersey in the NHL. 

I put that over and under at 2.5. Any takers? I expect some to be traded by end of day today. 

[The Sicatoka]

VGK was required to take 14-9-3. They took the minimums of F and Gs and maxed out on defensemen. 

I guess I'm surprised they didn't take a fourth goalie (for trade bait). 

I suspect Methot (who has said he doesn't want to go to VGK) will be traded shortly. Irony would have him going to the OTT arch rival TOR.  

[The Sicatoka]

There really weren't any top end forwards left unprotected for VGK. And definitely no first or second line centers. Saying that, loading up (13 picks) on a range of defensemen (by age or skillset) makes sense.

Now VGK can shop a couple of them, and they have a variety depending on what the other team needs, looking for that obvious gap in their lineup. For example, OTT now needs someone to play beside Karlsson and you'd want that to be a veteran defender while Karlsson is playing fourth forward. 

But I still think VGK should've taken a fourth goalie if nothing else as trading material. 

[Ray77]

6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Here's the list (just picks, no trade acquires):

Forwards (14):
Teemu Pulkkinen (Arizona Coyotes)
William Carrier (Buffalo Sabres)
Tomas Nosek (Detroit Red Wings)
Cody Eakin (Dallas Stars)
Jonathan Marchessault (Florida Panthers)
Connor Brickley (Carolina Hurricanes)
Chris Thorburn (Winnipeg Jets)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare (Philadelphia Flyers)
James Neal (Nashville Predators)
Brendan Leipsic (Toronto Maple Leafs)
David Perron (St. Louis Blues)
Oscar Lindberg (New York Rangers)
Erik Haula (Minnesota Wild)
William Karlsson (Columbus Blue Jackets)

Defensemen (13): 
Luca Sbisa (Vancouver Canucks)
Jon Merrill (New Jersey Devils)
Brayden McNabb (Los Angeles Kings)
Jason Garrison (Tampa Bay Lightning)
Deryk Engelland (Calgary Flames)
Colin Miller (Boston Bruins)
Marc Methot (Ottawa Senators)
David Schlemko (San Jose Sharks)
Griffin Reinhart (Edmonton Oilers)
Alexei Emelin (Montreal Canadiens)
Clayton Stoner (Anaheim Ducks)
Trevor van Riemsdyk (Chicago Blackhawks)
Nate Schmidt (Washington Capitals)

Goalies (3): 
Calvin Pickard (Colorado Avalanche)
J-F Berube (New York Islanders)
Marc-Andre Fleury (Pittsburgh Penguins)

I prediction of the 30 names selected by Vegas last night that some of them will never wear a VGK jersey in the NHL. 

I put that over and under at 2.5. Any takers? I expect some to be traded by end of day today. 

 

1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said:

VGK was required to take 14-9-3. They took the minimums of F and Gs and maxed out on defensemen. 

I guess I'm surprised they didn't take a fourth goalie (for trade bait). 

I suspect Methot (who has said he doesn't want to go to VGK) will be traded shortly. Irony would have him going to the OTT arch rival TOR.  

I agree with you.  There will be a bunch of these guys traded.  I had heard that Colin Miller from Boston will be the guy traded to Toronto, though.  If that happens....UGH!  I also agree that I thought they'd take another goalie - most notably Antti Raanta.  However, I think they made a solid choice in taking Lindberg from the Rangers, too.

[The Sicatoka]

I spent some time in the car this week (SiriusXM 91 on) and learned a lot about the mindset (or presumed mindset) of VGK. They were entertaining 'can you get for me' offers, meaning, "Hey, uh, VGK, take so-and-so from XYZ and we'll make a deal later." Some of the speculation was everything from true wants to team A looking to have VGK taking a guy away from team A's rival team B. 

I suspect VGK taking Methot from OTT is a case of someone else asking VGK to take a guy away from OTT and VGK will get something for it later. I say that because it was very clear that Methot did not want to be taken. 

Not taking Raanta (the hot commodity, flashy down the stretch) tells me someone wanted Lindberg and he may be going somewhere with VGK coming out even further ahead. 

 

[MafiaMan]

I'll say this again about Marc-Andre Fleury.  He has handled this whole situation with nothing but class.  Kudos to him.

No comments from the peanut galleries on the new jerseys?  Speaking of New Jersey's jerseys:  AWFUL.  

[MafiaMan]

7 hours ago, Roosevelt83 said:

Bold prediction : Vegas will make the playoffs next year and Pittsburgh will not

Every time you plow into SiouxSports.com and post a comment like this one, I feel like the guy holding the tub of popcorn in this clip...

...with the line-up they have, Pittsburgh could start Ken Wregget in net next season and make the playoffs.  

[cberkas]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Here's the list (just picks, no trade acquires):

Forwards (14):
Teemu Pulkkinen (Arizona Coyotes)
William Carrier (Buffalo Sabres)
Tomas Nosek (Detroit Red Wings)
Cody Eakin (Dallas Stars)
Jonathan Marchessault (Florida Panthers)
Connor Brickley (Carolina Hurricanes)
Chris Thorburn (Winnipeg Jets)
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare (Philadelphia Flyers)
James Neal (Nashville Predators)
Brendan Leipsic (Toronto Maple Leafs)
David Perron (St. Louis Blues)
Oscar Lindberg (New York Rangers)
Erik Haula (Minnesota Wild)
William Karlsson (Columbus Blue Jackets)

Defensemen (13): 
Luca Sbisa (Vancouver Canucks)
Jon Merrill (New Jersey Devils)
Brayden McNabb (Los Angeles Kings)
Jason Garrison (Tampa Bay Lightning)
Deryk Engelland (Calgary Flames)
Colin Miller (Boston Bruins)
Marc Methot (Ottawa Senators)
David Schlemko (San Jose Sharks)
Griffin Reinhart (Edmonton Oilers)
Alexei Emelin (Montreal Canadiens)
Clayton Stoner (Anaheim Ducks)
Trevor van Riemsdyk (Chicago Blackhawks)
Nate Schmidt (Washington Capitals)

Goalies (3): 
Calvin Pickard (Colorado Avalanche)
J-F Berube (New York Islanders)
Marc-Andre Fleury (Pittsburgh Penguins)

I prediction of the 30 names selected by Vegas last night that some of them will never wear a VGK jersey in the NHL. 

I put that over and under at 2.5. Any takers? I expect some to be traded by end of day today. 

Methot, Miller, TVR, Emelin, Schlemko, and Neal are all players I've heard that will be moved.

[The Sicatoka]

6 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Methot, Miller, TVR, Emelin, Schlemko, and Neal are all players I've heard that will be moved.

So you're taking the over 2.5.  

[cberkas]

28 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

So you're taking the over 2.5.  

I might have to.

There was talk last night the Methot to Dallas deal was in the works and Dalles is willing to deal the #3 Overall pick.

[cberkas]

TVR to Carolina

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli

Done deal: Trevor van Riemsdyk is heading from Vegas to Carolina. Details to come. #TSN

[The Sicatoka]

Given VGK took 13 D I believe at 2.5 taking the over is the smart play.

(I should've set the over/under at 4.5. ) 

[cberkas]

Schlemko traded to Montreal.

[cberkas]

Just now, The Sicatoka said:

Given VGK took 13 D I believe at 2.5 taking the over is the smart play.

(I should've set the over/under at 4.5. ) 

Two traded already.

[The Sicatoka]

You wonder if the EDM/NYI deal (Eberle/Strome) was done before the draft and the NYI worked out all their dealings with the VGK so as to keep their other pieces in place so as to publicly protect Strome long enough to just ship him off to EDM. 

[The Sicatoka]

Mentioning all this ...

Anyone seen Rosy83 lately? Is that him on the right?