PCM Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 From the 2004 NCAA Men's and Women's Ice Hockey Rules and Interpretations: HR-42 RULES 4-9/PENALTIES Supplementary Discipline SECTION 10. The proper disciplinary authority may, at the conclusion of the game, and at its discretion, investigate any incident that occurs in connection with any game and may assess additional suspensions for any offense committed before, during or after a game by a player, coach or non-playing personnel, independent of whether such offense had been penalized by a referee. The proper disciplinary authority may not decrease any penalties assessed before, during or after the game by the on-ice officials. (Emphasis added) In other words, penalties can be added and increased after a game, but never reduced. The rules also state that appeals of penalties are not allowed and protests are not recognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 From the 2004 NCAA Men's and Women's Ice Hockey Rules and Interpretations: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing77 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 This comes hard for me so let me say it slowly... thanks... PCM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 You never cease to amaze me PCM. Thanks for your help and going the extra mile for us fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 thanks for clearing that up for me/us PCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 Wow, a common misconception by fans and announcers. That rule has changed in the last couple of years though, I know that for a fact. Remember last season when there was talk of trying to get the ECAC to reduce the penalties of the four Sioux players suspended for fighting at Yale? It couldn't be done. I remember the Sicatoka quoting the rule over and over again. And then there was the Cory LaRose incident just before the 2000 Frozen Four. He was called for butt-ending in the final minutes of Maine's victory over Michigan. LaRose was the Black Bears' captain and one of their leading scorers. Many people didn't think he deserved a suspension, especially right before Maine played UND in the Frozen Four. But there was nothing to be done because no appeal was allowed and no penalty could be reduced. LaRose didn't play and UND beat Maine 2-0. I don't know how long the rule has been in effect, but it's certainly been around since 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Thx, PCM. Anyone have any idea who the Proper Disciplinary Authority is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 Anyone have any idea who the Proper Disciplinary Authority is? Mapletoft. Seriously, it would be the WCHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Remember last season when there was talk of trying to get the ECAC to reduce the penalties of the four Sioux players suspended for fighting at Yale? It couldn't be done. I remember the Sicatoka quoting the rule over and over again. And then there was the Cory LaRose incident just before the 2000 Frozen Four. He was called for butt-ending in the final minutes of Maine's victory over Michigan. LaRose was the Black Bears' captain and one of their leading scorers. Many people didn't think he deserved a suspension, especially right before Maine played UND in the Frozen Four. But there was nothing to be done because no appeal were allowed and no penalty could be reduced. LaRose didn't play and UND beat Maine 2-0. I don't know how long the rule has been in effect, but it's certainly been around since 2000. PCM, I'm not questioning you at all. I'm just recalling a game between BC and BU, which I attended about ten years ago. I can't remember the player for BC who got a DQ at the end of the first night's game. THe coach's lobbyed the officials afterward and they reduced the penalty. BU fans were outraged during the next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 I don't doubt that. Maybe it's why the rule was added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I don't doubt that. Maybe it's why the rule was added. maybe Tim H. used to always talk about whether the penalty would get reduced after the game or not. Haven't heard him mention it in a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Mapletoft. Seriously, it would be the WCHA. Mapletoft will be ruling the world before we know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 I can see why they'd have such rules. Just imagine all the lobbying and behind-the-scenes crap that would go on if penalties could be reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Mapletoft. Seriously, it would be the WCHA. Thx again. That Mapletoft joke has spun a life of its own. No sense in fighting it, RW77, especially when it's in someone else's sig line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 RW77 might make us "sleep with the fishes" if we keep it up. lol I know I've said it a couple times already, but it will go down as one of the funniest things ever written on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I think Mapletoft deserves his own category on this site. Maybe we should start a fan club. Then he could visit and we could all have our pictures taken with the supreme emporer king of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I can see why they'd have such rules. Just imagine all the lobbying and behind-the-scenes crap that would go on if penalties could be reduced. I agree, but at the same time it's very arbitrary & doesn't lend any latitude. The NFL gets a 2nd chance so to speak to reverse what could have been a potentially bad call, but not in any other sport does this option exist. Just the nature of the beast, I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I think Mapletoft deserves his own category on this site. Maybe we should start a fan club. Then he could visit and we could all have our pictures taken with the supreme emporer king of the world. Let's start the fan club, I move that RW77 be the President of the Mapletoft fan club, anyone second it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaNorthStar Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I second it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 a motion has been made and properly seconded all those in favor say aye opposed nay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 aye I nominate Northstar the secretary/treasurer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux fan in phoenix Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 nay. The Mapletoft joke was funny $hit but we're probably going overboard with it. You can tell in some of his posts that he's sick of it & I think we should respect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoteauRinkRat Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it, the motion carries sorry sioux fan, just having some fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggler Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 I also move that SfiP vote doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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