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who are they and what do they do

Moss's antics never bothered me cause I knew he was one of the best receivers in the NFL - I'm actually glad to see him doing so well & maybe he will get a ring

I think the Fans would rally behind Brooks & I hope he gets a start & even a few games to really see what he can do I given up on them but would watch if he played

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Who puts the most effort & $$$ into saving the Name ? Who calls the shots - plans the Strategy - pays the costs ? UND Admin. - State - the Ralph - Ralph's Foundation - Alum./ Students & Fans Have they worked effectively together on this

there is a Huge difference between control & persuasion or making sure the whole story is heard - maybe public forums - debates (I don't know) Earl was from the old school of power in seniority & party politics (good ol boy) but maybe not the right ol boy (as far as answers/new ideas go) I'm just trying to think outside the box & am tired of how things have worked in the past I don't really think your like earl & for clairification - I'm saying I trust the people I did not say this at all

Actually what I have been saying is, it is sad that we have not done much of this at all - & I don't want to do it now I have said find a way (if possible) to let the people decide once and for all ASAP are you a sudo earl strinden too

Lobbiest - PR people - Consultants - Persuasion - Education - salesmanship - campaigns - I don't see spending 1 million on a lawsuit over a narrow legality & ultimate compromise with a monopoly as having turned out to be effective Or has just having our leadership asking the current tribal leadership to please let us use your name as doing much either. & now we start over - for 3 more years of the same ol same ol ? ? ?

We do it all the time (& have thru out History) at all levels of everything Some call it Public Relations or Diplomacy (or Intelligence) something we lack as a Gov. & Society today If at this stage of the game - If we don't have any "Friends" on Reservations we could work with - NO WONDER we are getting what we deserve

Thats why I say take the campaign to the people & not the leadership - I truely believe alot of folks on reservations are proud of the name & logo & I totally agree they should be compensated for it - Up front & legit - not thru smoke & mirrors & just a few people Hey I believe people on Reservations are even way more skeptical & burn't out (cynical) on politics & leaders than we are

Well if the Tribal Leadership is not representing their Tribes (or even asking them how they feel) & many say the majority are not against us using the name & many more not trusting the future leaderships that may recind the use of the name (if we ever got it) I see asking the people & not the leaders (which get into office by being radical on many issues ) because apathy has to be even worse on reservations then off - then I think it is a vital question Because I don't think Tribal Leaders will ever give us permission - But maybe the people (majority) will This sounds like the Earl Striden & most others plan to save the name & it has not worked with leadership - But I think it may have to the People

Do tribes have initiated measures - where they can all vote on things ?

I bet Martha would pay to fix the Ralph

after reading that it explains why pirates say ARRRRRRRRRRRRHHHH

we could be the Hippie flower gardners

So you want to be the ND Divers I had a dog once that would dive under & get those mallards that tried that

I thought we were the peace garden state

I also like University of North Dakota Ducks & everyone could bring a duck call & drive the other teams NUTZ

I'm hearing you & it may be so - But what does that do for the Hockey Team ? just be ND ? No logo on jerseys ? rest of us call em what we want forever ? & then UND never gets the Ralph ?

We could become the West Minnesota's or East Montana's Or South Sask. or Manitoba's I'm running out of ideas & if I do, I may start heating up the tar & saving the feathers from the Birds I shoot this fall

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/in...st=newsmichigan

Maybe it is all less complicated then we make it http://slog.cstv.com/rinkrat/2007/10/sioux_what.html

How would you & most others feel if they next want us to rename the States Maybe we better jump on North Blizzard Or South Threshers or North Mallards or South Calvary (I'd smile if it were not so )

Yeah the Sioux have always Killed the Bison - must be what your looking for

You know I would like to think the Kevin Costner Movie was kinda real ( In that movie they portrayed the Sioux as Fighters against other tribes) & If I were a Sioux I'd be Pizzed at how they got the Shaft when we all took over their country. But at some point they just have to get over it - Or is this why some (Small band of rebels) still want to get even with us & see taking away our school name as a small victory I'm not proud of how we treated them or how they have lived since - But how they lived here & survived for many generations & how they attempted to overcome - what was insurmountable odds against them - I am proud of them But Hey I was proud of the Vikings too back when King Olaf tried to be king of the Hill You ever watch the Discovery show about Barbarians - Man has been fighting/ slaughtering each other since the begining of time - Sad stuff but it's our nature as a species (Like it or not)