Benny Baker

That's too much of a generalized for me to answer. But twitter wasn't around until summer 2006, so that might be part of the problem.

Thanks for the correction. A publicly funded nickname process with volunteers who dismissed the will of the public. They were engaged and attempted to deal with the original cause. Wayne Stenehjem did not do a great lawyering job, however.

Right, but I don't think the current uproar involves the NCAA-Fighting Sioux issue. The gripe is that a publicly funded committee dismissed the will of much, if not most, of the public.

Those who are complaining were very much engaged early on in the process. "Fighting Sioux" and "North Dakota" were the overwhelming favorite choices from the public submittable process this past Spring. Many, if not the majority, of those who were continually engaged in the process were in favor of "North Dakota." Despite the clear favorability of "North Dakota" to many, if not most, of those engaged in the process, the committee still removed "North Dakota" as an option. That's what their gripe is about.

Ah yes, the unsupported opinion that after playing as "North Dakota' for the past three years, the NCAA will no longer allow that option.

Or Berry could lose 7 consecutive April games.

Except for his abysmal 1-7 April record. That type of performance will not "fly" in Philly nor anywhere else in the NHL. For recent examples, see Dan Bylsma, who coached for 6 seasons, had 6 winning seasons, reached the playoffs 6 times, won the stanley cup, and was fired. See Bruce Boudreau, who coached Washington for 4 seasons, had 4 straight winning seasons, had 4 straight southeast division titles, had 4 straight playoff appearances, had 1 president's trophy, and was fired 22 games into his 5th season with Washington . . . even though he had a winning record at the time. I wish Hak the best of luck, but this is a whole different ball game for him.

Figured Jordan would have signed a long time ago. You really think Nick is leaving? I cannot imagine him leaving whatsoever.

Opportunity cost. The shelf life of a pro athlete is short. Does LaDue want to wait until he's 25 until he signs his first professional contract? Sorry, I was probably vague. Kings have told LaDue that if he signs, they want him to develop in the AHL. So the question he's facing is whether to start making money as a 23-year old professional, but in the AHL for a year minimum, or does he want to play at least another year for his hometown team? I can definitely understand how he's struggling with the decision, particularly when a family member is pushing him to sign.

Coaching staff wants LaDue to stay. LaDue's dad is pressuring him to sign. Kings are also obviously pressuring LaDue to sign, but have also informed LaDue that they want him to develop in the AHL rather than going to the NHL right away. LaDue is conflicted.

Your welcome.

Way to go on pointing out the incorrect usage of "there" on an internet message board!

Sorry, I should have been more clear. That statement was referring to Central Michigan. My recollection is that Central Michigan secured approval from the closest of the five Chippewa tribes in Michigan, but not the other four. Although UND secured approval from the closest Sioux tribe, the NCAA forced UND to also obtain approval from Standing Rock.* * I'm assuming the NCAA forced this issue, otherwise Wayne Stenehjem in less competent than we actually think.

I was just making a tongue in cheek joke. Though I might have to respectfully disagree on the characterization of the NCAA's policy or enforcement thereof as "defensible". I don't see much point in trying to eliminate allegedly racist mascots when the NCAA obviously allows some, but not all, schools to use them. If one needs to go, they all should go. Nor do I see any consistency in allowing some schools to keep their nickname with the approval of only one of a few tribes while uniquely requiring UND to secure approval of multiple tribes through a settlement agreement. Just my two cents. Feel free to bash away and criticize me.

Well, William and Mary were allowed to keep the "Tribe" as its nickname, so long as it removed a very racist set of feathers from its hostile and abusive logo: In unrelated news, Florida State still has a mascot of a Native American playing white face: Way to stomp out racist imagery from your athletic competitions, NCAA!

Holy cow, Mr. Buzzkill.

Other than UND, do any of these places have athletic teams? Honest question.

Holy cow, Mr. Buzzkill. God forbid a North Dakota team is nicknamed after something related to Teddy Roosevelt. You hate "Roughriders", we get it.

I guess I think of museums as a place where documents/artifacts/paintings are preserved (don't touch the art!), but to each his own. Not going to argue over semantics. But, I do like how UND preserved the Fighting Sioux jerseys in that hallway.

Thanks for the definitions, Webster. But don't you just love how they maintained (this jersey) in its original and existing state?

Eh, semantics, but fair enough. I have no problem with either one.

I agree with everything you said. My two points were simply that (1) not "ALL" the locker room renovations went to putting up new logos (as someone falsely alleged earlier), but also to preserving/commemorating the Fighting Sioux nickname; and (2) the hockey team clearly has not moved on from the Fighting Sioux nickname as evidenced by preserving/commemorating the Fighting Sioux logo, and by the statements of pretty much every UND hockey player.

You don't need to keep backtracking, no one will blame you when you admit you're wrong. You: they spent millions on new logos! Reality: they spent millions on locker room renovations including preserving the Fighting Sioux nickname. You: they clearly moved on from the Fighting Sioux! Reality: they spent millions on locker room renovations including preserving the Fighting Sioux nickname.

So I completely proved you wrong by citing to an actual source, and your only response is, do you have another source? Nice job, buddy. But since you asked: But why are you dodging the real issue? That is, you claim that UND spent millions of dollars changing "ALL" the logos to the interlocking ND when, in fact, some of that money was spent on the Fighting Sioux logo. It seems pretty strange that the hockey team we "love so dearly" would pay money to put up all these new Fighting Sioux logos if the team, as you wrongly assert, "made it quite clear they are fine with the decision to move on" from the Fighting Sioux logo.

Really, "ALL"?