Benny Baker

Spot on, except that UND has been to 21 frozen fours, so they've actually won more than 25% of the time. That is--all other coaches except Hakstol have brought UND to the frozen four on 14 occasions and won it all 7 times. Hakstol has brought UND to the frozen four on 7 occasions and, well . . . .

FROZEN FOUR RECORDS OVER THE PAST TEN SEASONS Boston College (6): 8-3 Boston University (2): 3-1 Wisconsin (2): 3-1 Union (2): 2-1 Michigan State (1): 2-0 Minnesota-Duluth (1): 2-0 Providence (1): 2-0 Yale (1): 2-0 Miami (2): 1-2 Michigan (2): 1-2 Minnesota (2): 1-2 Notre Dame (2): 1-2 Ferris State (1): 1-1 Quinnipiac (1): 1-1 ------------------------------------------------ North Dakota (6): 0-6 Maine (2): 0-2 Bemidji State (1): 0-1 Mass-Lowell (1): 0-1 Omaha (1): 0-1 RIT (1): 0-1 St. Cloud State (1): 0-1 Vermont (1): 0-1 As with all stats, any opinions you derive from them are those of your own.

Agreed. But I think the concern is with the lack of Hakstol's success at the frozen four in light of his team's opportunities. Jerry York has 4 national championship titles, has been to 9 national championship games, and has a 14-7 record in the 12 frozen fours he's been to. Dave Hakstol has been to 1 national championship game and has a 1-7 record in the 7 frozen fours he's been to.

We soon may be entering unprecedented territory. No North Dakota hockey program or fan base has experienced a title drought longer than about sixteen years. LONGEST CONSECUTIVE SEASONS WITHOUT A TITLE: 16: 1964-1979 [Thorndycraft (1), Peters (2), Selman (2), Bjorkman (10), Gasparini (1)] 15: 2001-2015 [blais (4), Hakstol (11)] 12: 1947-1958 [Jamieson (1), Norman (2), Purper (7), Renfrew (1), May (1)] 9: 1988-1996 [Gasparini (7), Blais (2)] 4: 1983-1986 [Gasparini (4)] 3: 1960-1962 [Thorndycraft (3)] 2: 1998-1999 [blais (2)] 1: 1981 [Gasparini (1)] And "no", this is not another "Fire Hak!" thread, so let's not make it about something that it's not. But this flat out sucks.

HIPAA does not apply to hockey teams or universities. It only apply to certain types of health care providers and insurance companies. But yes, non-disclosure of a player's injury is to prevent opponents from gaining a tactical advantage because of that player's injury.

Agreed, but frankly, it doesn't matter to me if they're 17 or 25

But as you know, Jason Blake turned 25 before his last season with UND started. Dan Woog, who had a redshirt season, was still 24 during his last game as a Gopher. Steve DeBus did not turn 25 until after he started he last season with the Gophers. Sorry, but neither Dan Woog or Steve DeBus were the oldest players to ever play in the WCHA. In fact, Jason Blake, albeit an American and not a Canadian, was older than both.

On April 12th, Thompson, Murphy, and Johnson were spotted by UND Police walking through University Park SEVEN minutes after the park closed. The cops apparently wanted to inform the three that the park had closed seven minutes prior. Instead, Thompson and Murphy got scared and ran. All three admitted to having about 8-10 beers. This should be a non-issue.

Not just extremely hypocritical, but overtly hypocritical. One end of the spectrum doesn't paint the entire picture. But there's no reason you should feel the need to become so defensive behind your computer screen, we're both UND fans (i think). I just disagree with your assessment that Saunders may be "the real deal" because we were "overlooking" him based upon your argument of three outstanding games in the 27 in which he played. That's all. Otherwise, Aaron Dell will certainly sign that NHL contract soon because last season he shut out Denver, shut out Omaha, and only allowed 1 goal on 26 shots during a home victory against the WCHA regular season champions.

Not only small, but highly anecdotal. He also allowed 7 goals in 35 shots against Air Force, 6 goals on 18 shots against Mankato (pulled in the second), 4 goals on 14 shots against Bemidji (pulled in second), 5 goals on 26 shots against Denver (pulled after second). Yeah UND was looking at this kid during recruiting and he had a deficient team in front of him in Alabama, but to suggest that he is a godsend or anything half that is unfair to both Clarke and your own senses. I wish Clarke the best at UND; yet, a goalie who originally signed with Alabama-Huntsville is not who I want starting game in and game out in North Dakota's net----for obvious reasons. He'll provide experienced depth, but nothing more if Hak and crew did their due diligence getting a guy like Gothberg.

Yup, like I originally said, preparation for what reason? It's preparation for if the Seminole tribe withdraws support. To the contrary, this thread announced your belief that the NCAA would now be coming after FSU. But again, like the article you linked says---preparation if the Seminole tribe withdraws support. But that's fine if you want to continue your position. I just expect that I will no longer see you bash other people on this forum for speculating.

I suggest you read the article you linked for everyone. "But in Spanish, it's the word for "wild and untamed." It's the name early Spanish settlers in Florida applied to the tribes of runaway Creek Indians — tribes the British began calling "Seminoles." Cimarron is also the root of the word "maroon," which the Spanish used to describe colonies of runaway slaves." Why doesn't FSU use Renegade as you ask? Did you read the article? Because they're not going to bring a horse into a basketball or volleyball arena. That's one reason the school needed another mascot. The second reason---because the athletic department is in substantial debt. This sort of rampant speculation, particularly when you ignore the actual article that you have cited, is worse than those who claim that Hakstol was given the ultimatum between keeping his job or denouncing the nickname. Pot kettle black.

This article has nothing to do with the NCAA coming after FSU. The whole premise is that the Seminole tribe may one day withdraw their support of the FSU nickname, which is arguably based upon decreasing casino revenues. Speculate much? Again, it has nothing to do with the NCAA putting any pressure on FSU, whatsoever. I suggest you move that clock a tick backwards, there's no need for you to diminish your credibility with such misrepresentations. At any rate, I'm sure the NCAA will be really impressed with "Cimarron" considering it is the Spanish name for both the Seminole tribe and the root word for runaway slaves.

Berry is waiting for his contract buy-out and will join the Sioux staff shortly thereafter. Simple as that; it's just a matter of time.

If Karl is being honest, the genesis of this team appears to be developing local talent. In essence, this midget team "should" be a North Dakota select team with a few players from Minnesota and elsewhere based out of Grand Forks. Given North Dakota's limited player pool and the lack of D-1 players that the state now produces, I don't see this as being a feeder program for UND in either its purpose or effect. Now if we start seeing players come from all over the U.S., which Goehring seems to be against, then this team may be better equiped to produce more college recruits. Midget teams are entirely U-18 and, therefore, filled with high schoolers, so this is a much different and younger team than the Fargo Force, Bismarck Bobacts, or any Canadian Junior team.

What if the NCAA allowed the game to take place, perhaps even the whole regional? Then they would convene and make a ruling after the fact, which found that UND's wearing of the "sioux" imagery resulted in a forfeit. UND's wins/participation would be vacated/voided. Don't know if the backlash would be as large.

Minnesota went over 20 years without winning a national title, made the NCAA almost every year when it was much more difficult to do so, and didn't fall off the "radar." Same with Boston Univeristy. 1972 to 1995, I believe. UND hockey will be fine, it's just that their fans get spoiled with 7 national championships.

I thought the same thing; couldn't agree more.

The nickname law is not a penal statute, it's not supposed to have "consequences" or "teeth" prescribed within. Nonetheless, the lack thereof doesn't give President Kelley or the SBHE free reign to disregard the laws of North Dakota. Much like the rest of chapters 15-10 through 15-16 of North Dakota's Century Code, which again are not penal statutes, the SBHE must follow what the legislature says. As a member of the executive branch, the SBHE has, in fact, a constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws of the state. Otherwise, President Kelley or the SBHE need to start a lawsuit, and we saw how that ended up (for now).

Are some of you actually suggesting that you would prefer the NCAA to sanction the state as a whole? I understand that it's a means to a possible end, but it's really disappointing to hear any North Dakotan, or anyone else for that matter, hope that the NCAA further interferes with North Dakota, its academic institutions, its public resources, and further divides our state. Seriously, any of you who actually wish for this state-wide ban should be ashamed of yourself. Quit traveling down this ever-narrowing tunnel and stop losing sight of the big picture. North Dakota doesn't need the NCAA to make any more of our state's decisions. I would think that we could all agree on this.

Wow, you've already won the award for the most disingenuous post of the day. So it's UND's fault that a NDSU-grad in Fargo drafted a law naming UND's athletic teams, which was passed by the state's legislature, and then a tribe of Native Americans near Devils Lake initiated a state-wide referendum process to restore the Bison graduate's law. But if this is what you consider to be an isolated problem for UND, then we agree.

What? The new, unique uniform that everyone was so found of? If we're going to harp on the effect of the NCAA sanctions, UND men's hockey team is always going to be the worst example you can throw out there. Football, women's hockey, etc. face much greater battles.

Not necessarily expected, but as a matter of jurisprudence; i.e., how court's generally choose to decide cases, this highly conforms with the position of all American courts. In other words, courts purposely avoid making constitutional rulings if they can dispose of the issue in another manner. Here, that is exactly what happened. It might not be the most pragmatic way of doing things, however, especially for those of us who are going to have to see this case get filed again if the june vote goes in favor of the nickname.

Kristo grew up a Sioux fan, committed to UND at a young age, has relatives in Grand Forks. You could tell he wanted it more than anybody last Sunday. Hoping he's back for one more try.

Not if Al Carlson makes a law that says that "the University of North Dakota fighting sioux football team must compete in the Football Championship Subdivision each calendar season. And there is nothing that anybody can do to stop it."