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  1. 1 hour ago, Brim006 said:

    NDHSAA has some archives for hockey although they're not nearly as robust as they are for basketball and football stats and records. Most of their hockey data seem to be linked to just state tournament stats and records unfortunately.

    I would think most programs have some archives of their own, but as far as a consolidated archive...I don't think it exists unfortunately. 

    As far as long-standing coaches, the first that comes to mind for me is David Hoff from Bottineau. He completed 30 seasons as head coach for Bottineau before he moved on to coaching the USA Paraolympics team which has had massive success with several world championships and gold medals. But with 30 seasons under his belt in the west, I'd think that although Bottineau was never as consistently good as Century, he probably still won well over 300 games in his career. 

    FYI, Gillen does have stats back into even closer to 2000, but only has 2007 and beyond posted on the site for some reason. I've asked him about it before and he's sent over PDFs of earlier years not on the site. 

    The others I thought of was  Stockert in Jamestown has 20 years in but probably closer to the 200 mark from what I can tell. (Which is a good number in and of itself)

    Has to be good long runs in Forks at central that would get up there.

    Seems like quite a project but would be an awesome resource to compile it all....

    and would be more of a building block of creating thet North Dakota Hockey culture that we seem to lack as opposed to hoe others embrace.

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  2. So seeing this got me thinking, where do we think these totals stack up in ND high school hockey historically? A milestone for sure but can't believe its close to the most in the ND in any way.

    Are there even any types of archives of this type of inf back through the years? 

    I'd have to think that there have been some long standing coaches in the east GF, DL , Fargo? Dean Wilson coached what 18 years?

    Not even really sure there's anywhere that records are kept other than Gillen's site which has amazing data but just back to 2007ish.

     

    oly.JPG

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  3. 5 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

    If either or both Omaha and UMass make the tournament as host #4 seeds, will the committee set aside the intra-conference matchup prohibition to help boost attendance in an effort to fend off the supporters of on-campus regionals? 

    That logic is using an assumption the NCAA actually cares in any way.

  4. 5 hours ago, Kab said:

    Are lower numbers the result of the cost to play hockey?

    Yes. It matters.

    5 hours ago, Wilbur said:

    I think he's saying that Minot only has one squirt A team.  

    Ok not sure what his meanings or implications are as Minot has good numbers up and down the youth program. 

  5. 45 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

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    This is kind of what I was alluding to the other night with Grand Forks keeping their kids.

    I'm from Minot originally, and have a lot of friends there still, and the number of kids that go through the Wolves and don't step on the high school ice is mind boggling.  They aren't the only ones, but the list is long.

    I see and agree with that a bit, 

    Minot could easily field another competitive team if they had all the kids who left stayed (but details are in who and where they fall in the districts.)

    The numbers are huge but, mind boggling its not.

    There just isn't a way sugar coat the reality of how big the talent deficit is in the WDA. And third of the games vs low quality teams vs a Jr's or AAA schedule just makes a crazy good argument to explore other options.

  6. 1 hour ago, Walsh Hall said:

    For folks more involved than I currently am, what are considered to be the largest issues with NDHS hockey?  

    Reply will be in 4 volumes post season.

    42 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

    I doubt the Minots, the Bismarck are going to want to travel all the way to Minnesota for regular season games

     

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  7. 1 hour ago, Wilbur said:

    As I walked out of the rink last night I ran into a long time high school coach who had a great line about the all GF final after we talked about "state of ND hockey".

    "Grand Forks may be the only place in the state where playing for their high school teams means something to these kids.  They deserve to play each other in the ship."

    100%

    Thats just a bad case of a bias of perception and tunnel vision.

    Go to a Century Legacy game and tell me after those kids don't have playing for their school as meaningfull. Minot kids dont have meaning playing as a magician?..

    tell that to some of the kids that devoted everything to making the team and didn't. Foolish.

    If it had meaning then why do they still leave for jrs?

    I might be missing the "meaning" behind the quote a bit but the arrogant attitude of "deserving" to play as opposed to earning and achieving the right (as those GF teams did again) is absolutely the attitude that keeps ND hockey exactly where it is, which is fine with those people.

    Maybe UM gophers should just deserve to be innthe frozen four every year cause it means something to them...  same thing.

    Respectfully, that's an absolutely terrible attitude.

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  8. 7 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

    The Ralph is an awesome facility no one is denying that but when you get less than a half of the arena filled the atmosphere sucks.  Put that same crowd at Scheels and you have a great atmosphere.   The ice is pretty much the same.

    The Ralph does a way better job and the facilities are better, the girls aren't relegated to the "Nobody gives a !@#$" rink... 

    Fargo is just an awefull high school hockey experience in and outside the rink and town.

     

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  9. 4 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

    It’s also about the student athlete expierence 

    would you rather play in the best hockey rink in the nation (Ralph) or some !@#$ hole in minot

    Tell me you've never been to  Minot Maysa without... you know the rest

    Ralph should host every year or every 2 out of 3 years, it is a better experience.

    Rotate the 3rd year between Minot and scheels

     

    IF fargo can figurenout the hotel management 

     

    Not much of a student Thlete experience staying at some of the crack whore meth motels they are but up in

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  10. 8 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

    The Ralph is just bigger which makes it seem more empty

     

    when a gf team is in the title game which every year it is minimum 4k

     

    Look at student sections yesterday

     

    rrhs was 1st

    crntral 2nd followed by north id day

    The boys tourney could be held in Minot 100% of the years.

    You think GF has good attendance purely out of proximity but if those wheels had to turn more than an hour the student section would look exactly like Fargo Norths did last night.

    Which was absolutely pathetic for being in town for them.

    We shall see if it's a GF final but I think it's pure fantasy to think the scheels bowl will be over half full

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