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I’ve said from the beginning of time … Change the culture of DI UND football … start expecting wins rather than hoping for wins. Not anywhere close to that with Bubba at this time. “hoping for wins” doesn’t fill the Alerus. UND thinking about how to enhance the REA 99.99% of the time rather than the Alerus game day experience is another issue …

Spot on.

I can compare, and I’m really just piggybacking at this point. I have friends who give $15,000 per year to NDSU in Team Makers and I know people who give similar annual amounts to UND Champions Club. NDSU TM buddy gets treated like royality - direct visits from FB head coach (primarily Bohl back in 2011-2013), calls, complimentary tickets, tailgating passes, etc. At UND, lucky if you get one phone call per year from an intern or random student athlete. CC leaders walk by you at functions and pretend to not even know who are (which they may actually not know who are!). Let me be clear; my main issue or complaint isn’t even what I shared above; it’s the failure in finding and retaining potential donors around UND. Additionally, how much work is being done keeping in connection with football alumni base? - which is massive!

You’re spot on you. UND champions club and alumni foundation is being run by fools, like I said. They’re missing the objective by a lot. Sad sad reality. You can’t just go for the home run donation all the damn time - appreciate the other donors and they will give more!

I would kill for numbers like that again … (relatively speaking of course)

Crowd should be decent … but if they witness a blowout that UND is on the wrong side of … well, then that changes things for the rest of the year.

Absolutely, it’s run by a bunch of delinquents. I know a lot of people in North Dakota with $ to spend but the Champions Club and Alumni Foundation puts up their noses to them. They spend so much time trying to get the big bucks (i.e., the big time donation) from select donors, that they fail to realize there are several moderate donations all over the place that they could be capitalizing on. I think UND athletics fundraising, beyond the hockey community, is god awful. I mean, how could you say it’s not? UND’s non-hockey sports budget is below average… not good enough to yield banners on a consistent basis, that’s for sure. Hate to say it, but NDSU Team Makers has blown UND out of the water the past decade.

Yeah that’s what happens when you get blown out by a team that lost to Incarnate Word … This is a recurrent issue with Bubba’s teams (and really all the DI UND football teams) … they aren’t consistent and can’t build any momentum to get fans excited. UND will have to earn back the masses on Saturday with a big time performance. The diehards posting on this forum don’t count … we’re talking about getting the laypersons around Grand Forks excited and interested about UND football again.

Well it certainly seems they need to do it again …

Forced myself to watch the UND @ SIU highlights finally … in summary, UND’s safeties are god awful. Worst I’ve seen in a long time. - they need to try new players and/or schemes. Coley and Kauppinen looked … let’s just say … graded out poorly, which is not new. Can’t cover, can’t tackle. - UND tried to play zone on 3rd and long but the safeties and linebackers had no idea what they were doing, tons of miscommunication. Wide open players in the middle of the field all day long - need to do a better job coaching these guys up on zone coverage or go to man!! - 2022 should not only put Bubba on the hot seat but also DC Holinka and safeties coach Schwenzfeier … - I think Missouri State will put up a lot of points on Saturday, unless they implode internally.

Yeah not the same … see what Bohl did from 2006-2007?? - his record those two years was 20-2

Agree, but in this day and age, they do. College football and professional football PAs do it all over the country. Time UND football get on board and get with the times …

The funny thing is, in most other industries in GF, the pay for the most part is above market value in order to get good out-of-state employees to move to Grand Forks. From a UND athletics standpoint, hockey does that, but in all other non-hockey sports, it’s a*s backwards. Football and basketball tries to recruit and retain coaching talent with pennies when they should at least be using nickels and dimes …

At some point all this “inbreeding” needs to be closely examined by UND athletics. It’s not like UND football has been consistently doing anything great since going DI, and the head coaches have been “UND guys” in Mussman and Schweigert during that time … UND needs to take a hard long look at guys outside the program, mainly DII head coaches with great records of success.

Honestly the PA announcer should prompt the crowd to get up and get loud on all downs when UND is on defense. This idea that the crowd should only be prompted when it’s 3rd down is lazy. For when UND’s on offense, they definitely shouldn’t be playing music loud right before the snap … do that when UND’s on defense!! also, they could put on the big screens “quiet, offense at work” or something like that when UND has the ball. this is sad for a couple reasons: 1) shows how uninvolved UND athletics is with anything football (they have a bunch of NHL goons in the athletic department) 2) shows just how uneducated fans of UND football are about football in general … or just how unenthusiastic (apathetic) they are about UND football

Big slow receivers are UND’s speciality, though.

I sure hope so. If you can’t see a jump in recruiting after all those improvements, then what the hell? (for the record, I think it will help)

Can’t argue with that.

Well, there it is; not surprising which sport is more popular (and therefore success in said sport has more potential to grow a university).

From an eyeballs standpoint, especially if you win a NCAA mens basketball tournament game, it is NCAA mens bb tournament. from a sense of accomplishment standpoint, including pride as fans and alumni, it would be a national championship in hockey and/or football.

It’s UND’s rival. Regionally, UND is naturally compared to NDSU. SDSU is not UND’s rival from a regional standpoint, at least not before NDSU is. Kids from North Dakota and northern Minnesota will naturally compare UND to NDSU, and vice versa. Has to do with geography and tradition/history. Lastly, NDSU football should be the benchmark (or at least the program to strive to become) for all FCS football programs, including UND football.

Agreed. SDSU got a leg up on UND by moving up along with NDSU. From a pure head to head standpoint (SDSU vs UND), SDSU has recruited better players then UND (AND DEVELOPED - they’ve had the better S&C program).

Absolutely! Completely agree 1000%. herein lies the issue with her and the donation UND accepted

Just anecdotal, but plan on more specific conversations soon. Ultimately, as I’ve said, I think the agreement with REA/Engelstad, McGarry has also been limiting. REA takes in 52% of ticket revenue - all of that just directly or indirectly goes to hockey. UND has no say in that going to football.

Beyond puzzling… and frustrating.