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Comment that i heard from a very reliable sources was only "Brock got screwed by the University of Denver." Its all speculation from here. He lives off campus, so it isn't housing related...most likely some sort of academic issue.

I'll take the Penis Mightier, Alex. Its the Pen Is Mightier, Sean.

That's fair, so let's consider only the forwards. Of the forwards drafted in the first round of the 2004 NHL draft, only Blake Wheeler, Lauri Korpikoski and Kris Chucko have not seen an NHL game.

Regarding Wheeler, the following is an assessment of other first round picks from 2004. Blake wheeler was taken 5th overrall. He has scored 40 goals in his career for the Golden Gophers. Alex Ovechkin, taken 1st that year, has scored 46 goals in the NHL so far this season! 144 total NHL goals Evgeni Malkin, taken 2nd has scored 61 NHL goals Drew Stafford, taken 13th, has notched 26 NHL goals ) 48 professional goals Travis Zajac, taken 20th, has notched 29 NHL goals My point is first round picks are supposed to be in the NHL producing 4 years after they are drafted. Wheeler is a fine college hockey player. He has some skill. He wouldn't make it on the bad boy Sioux, but he is perfect for the Pansies on Ice.

It is a nice article. I do want to comment on the shots on goal stat. I think that it tells some of the story, but no where near all. A great scoring chance where you hit the crossbar is not considered a shot on goal by the statisticians, so you can have a high-quality, fully-executed scoring chance resulting in no shot on goal. Conversely, a clearing attempt that finds its way to the goalie counts as a shot on goal. Also, a team on the penalty kill for 7 minutes of a first period is ALWAYS going to be outshot for that period.

Trotter is a heckuva hockey player. No matter what the reason, I wish him the best. I have no love lost for Denver, but BT is a worthy competitor and has my respect.

Noone has condoned Hak's mistake. He has formally apologized to everyone from his players, the alumni, Don Adam, to kids watching at home. He owned up to his mistake. UND did a pre-emptive strike by suspending him, keeping it in house rather than waiting for the league to issue something. While I originally thought one game, I think UND did two to prevent the league from thinking we took it easy on him. He also was given a formal written blemish in his personel record. Not that it means a whole lot. Dave Hakstol is in elite company. He has lead UND to three straight Frozen Fours. Gino didn't do that, Blais didn't do that. I know there are those in the alumni and boosters who wanted Eades to be head coach, but Hak has done a great job. I think the players believe in him and believe in themselves when they play for him. Dave Hakstol is usually a robot on the bench. He showed how much he cares about Sioux hockey and about his team last Saturday. If I'm a player, I respect that, even if on a headier level I know it was wrong. Remember, in a huge rivalry series and conference game, we lost Duncs 7 seconds in for a CFB (legit, but not a malicious CFB). Then in the second Trupp gets cross-checked from behind and no CFB is called. In fact, from the ensuing scrum, The Gophs get a pp and we are down to only 10 available forwards for 10 minutes. The lunacy of that call is reinforced by the make-up call on Wheeler a minute later. Hak was mad and frustrated. It still doesn't make it right, but he has apologized. I think we emerge from this a more cohesive unit. Players know that their teammates and their coach have their back. I think we will battle adversity from the officials the rest of the way, but we will rise to the occasion. As for people commenting on JT and the Osh getting minors...Should the Gophers have suspended every under age player at the Blarney Stone following the undercover report? Of course not. College kids have few beers, guess what? Some probably even try to get laid on a Saturday night after a game too! Big Shocker. The latest TJ incident was nothing, in fact, the charges will most likely be dropped, and the circumstances are such that any reasonable person would understand. I do want to know if Joe was speared by Wheeler. If he was, the action was somewhat warranted (albeit in poor taste).

As someone who did undergrad and got my MBA at Minnesota (all who read my posts know there is no love for Maroon and Gold hockey however) while the map is accurate as far as physical campus is concerned, dinkytown and stadium village are definitely considered "campus" by locals. In fact, the map indicates areas as "non-campus" that include a number of sorrority and fraternity houses (up and down 10th). Marcy Holmes and southeast Minneapolis (just on the other side of 35W) is also almost entirely student housing. The map clearly shows property physcially owned by the U of MN. Is campus definied as property owned by the University or as the area of town dominated by the University and its students?

Big difference between an official and an opposing player. If you physically wnet after an on ice official, you'd be done for the year. You can not fight an official. You can fight a player and it is only a game DQ. Besides, when did I ever make a comment about Malone?

I'm going with a wild card...Frattin

I agree with playing to the buzzer, but a faceoff at center ice with 3 seconds left is a recipe for disaster. Before the puck was dropped, Adam should've skated over to both benches and had the players come to their respective benches to and issued a stern warnign that any extracurriculars would be dealt with severely. He didn't, melee ensued. I am still disappointed in Joe for pulling a guy out of the handshake line. As little respect as I have for Wheeler's mouth, I have about the same respect for Joe for that stunt. Force him to fight you on the ice during the game. Rack him up against the glass, step back and drop your gloves and take off your helmet. If he doesn't answer the call he looks completely gutless.

Wow! I hope their parents are proud. I have to chill out when I watch stuff like that. It makes me wnat to beat on those little punks. Unfortunately the end result would be me getting sued. I do really want to set the world right. Much like Blake Wheeler, these Gopher fans would do well to get their asses kicked good and hard.

Spin away. One team is fighting for a number one seed in the regionals, the other is fighting for air. Sorry Gopher faithful, but it ain't your year, and complaining about the Sioux being mean (jeez its like were Hanibal going after Rome...The scourge of Minneapolis) isn't going to make it your year. Minnesota is really down on talent this year, and isn't able to run and gun. What do you do? We had a few bad years in the early 90's too. The Pansies on Ice will be the Pride on Ice again one day. Just not this day. There honestly isn't one Gopher that i would trade a Sioux player for.

Let's not forget that our best powerplay shooter was in the locker room on Saturday night. Forwards need to be more aggressive and not playing zone offense. Make one guy miss and its 2 on 1 every time on the powerplay. Should be give and go or shot on net right then and there.

releaving onesself inappropriately vs. runnign a dog murdering and racketeering organization...not even close. The elevator was stuck. If he had pissed himself he wouldn't even have been charged. I reiterate that while harsh, the suspension is appropriate and keeps the league out of our kitchen on the matter.

Think about this, Sioux have no fights vs Denver, CC, New Hampshire, BC, MSU, Northeastern, UMD, Michigan Tech, and Alaska Anchorage. Sioux have fights vs Wisconsin, Minnesota and Mankato. Now, with all due respect to Northeastern, UMD, Tech and AA, The other "fightless" teams are all highly skilled NCAA tournament-bound teams (UMD and Northeastern also have a legitimate shot). Wisconsin, Minnesota and Mankato are all bubble teams who have bounced in and out of NCAA consideration. So, we get into fights with the bubble teams, but we don't fight with the legitimate contenders...hmmmm...sounds like we ar ethe instigators doesn't it. MN and Wisconsin are very frustrated teams trying to win any way they can. This is unusual for both programs. This year, they are having to clutch and grab and try to fight to win dirty (again this is atypical of the programs). Sioux respond with whatever kind of hockey you throw at them. You want to run and gun, we can do that. You want to play cheap, we'll throw down.

Punishment is appropriate for Hak. We have to show that we are strict. The biggest danger is losing credibility with the officials. There is plenty of politicing that goes on, and we are going to have trouble getting the benefit of the doubt now. Maybe we never did get the benefit of the doubt before either. As for Wooger, I think that was a little misleading too. I think the guy made a lapse in judgement. A player needed $500, yes there are rules, but think about if someone you were really close with needed $500 in order to graduate school, and said he'd pay you back right away. I'd float the kid 5 Bennies too. Hakstol will feel shame, he will miss a key series, and he might've added a black mark to our sterling reputation. Regardless, I am happy to have a coach who isn't a robot and I'm sure his players are too. It would've been better to throw somehting and get a bench minor however.

It was old school WCHA at the John. The Goofer faithful will complain about how mean we are and dirty and...CANADIAN. They will never stop complaining. They will be complaining in their overpriced suburban homes in April watching the Sioux on TV. Re-watching all the video in slow motion here is my attempt at an unbiased opinion. Second period scrum: Peltier runs Trupp from behind on the sideboards. This shot was much more malicious than the CFB called on Duncan to start the game. Peltier then proceeds to work over Trupp while Trupp is on his back. Several Sioux skate to Trupp's aid, shortly followed by several Gophers. Malone tries to get Peltier to fight. Malone is thrown into the box by the AR. Fight disperses. Calls: Malone double minor for roughing and a 10 minute misconduct (for being 3rd man in and instigating), Peltier minor for roughing. Result: Gopher powerplay for 2 minutes with the Sioux bench shortened by three: Duncan, Malone and Radke. Minnesota without Peltier for two. What Calls should've been made: Sioux: Malone 5 minutes on a roughing major and 10 minute misconduct for 3rd man in. Gophers: Peltier 5 and a game for CFB, 2 minutes for roughing. Result would've been a 2 minute Sioux powerplay, Very short Sioux bench equal short benches for the third period.

Agree with Malone doing what he had to do to protect a teammate who not only is the lightest guy on the team, but also was NEVER in a position to defend himself. How is Lucia going after Zajac any different? It is worse. Darcy did not pile on Anderson and start feeding him after knocking him down from behind. Someone made a comment about Darcy being like McCracken keeping his stick...I would guess in the BC league you need to keep that stick until you know your opponent isn't planning on using his. In a straight up fist fight, I'll take a veteran of the Canadian junior ranks over a kid from Wayzata any day. The refusal to back it up sans helmet and golves is a Gopher trademark. While I am disappointed in Big Joe for pulling a guy out of the handshake line, it is pretty clear that Joe was hoping for them to drop the gloves. I almost think they should've let Joe and Wheeler go at it. Get it done and over. Joe's problem is with Wheeler. It has to be settled. Only way to settle it is without helmets and gloves on the ice. Bickel, well, Stu had his opportunities to challenge someone to go without the gloves. I haven't seen him do so. Instead he talks sh*t from behind his coach. As to not winning by a wide margin, thereby indicating the parity of these two teams, there was no Duncan. Sioux survived tremendous adversity in the game. We had a short bench the entire game, and a ridiculously short bench with Malone in the box for 10. The result is tired legs and no line cohesion. Especially on the top powerplay unit. These teams hate each other. They have to fight in order to move on.

Bad move by Hak, but he is doing all he can in retrospect. AD should probably suspend him for one game vs DU. I am comfortable with Eades stepping in for the one game. I am sure Dave really feels like a jack a$$. He should've shown more discipline. However, I agree that it is far better to be the bad boys than the candy a$$es. This could be the rallying point of the whole season. We back our teammates, we are not afraid to throw down, and our coach is with us all the way. We can outskill you one minute, and beat you up the next. That's Sioux hockey. Even Wooger called it old time hockey, and seemed to respect the way the Sioux stand up for themselves and each other. Woog's comments throughout the scrums tempered Mansucko's homerness and showed him to be the hockey expert he is. What this incident by Dave does to me, however, is to think again about the Wisco incident. What actually was said might never be known. I can not turn a blind eye to Hak's mistake, but I am also not going to condemn him for getting fired up and pi$$ed off. He has apologized. One game suspension (without pay perhaps?) and we move on.

Does Bruce McClown attend every gopher game? I saw him at the John last night, my buddy saw him in Duluth when MN was up playig the Dogs. They showed him in Madison on TV. I am going to reiterate one of my points. Last night's total loss of control by the officials could've been taken care of if fighting were allowed in the game. THe guys fought anyway. I am a strong believer in letting the players police the game. Too many soccer moms and Princess Goldy fans who would come unglued if the likes of their precious players got hurt. Blakey "tough guy" Wheeler would have to oen up for his actions and words, and then when he got beat up, he'd hire Mike Cerisi to sue.

Lucia did slam Zajac, but only after Darcy had already had him down and was working on getting the helmet off. If you watch the immediate follow up to that, Zajac gets out from under Tony and proceeds to try and rack him up against the glass. Fortunately for tDon's daughter, the official was able to stop it at that point. A little shot in the back on a cross check happens in games like this...it isn't a chess match or the marching band, it is WCHA hockey. leg stuck out on the Osh, cross check to the back by Zajac, Lucia and Flynn go after Zajac, TJ makes it even by grabbing Flynn. Struggle ensues. Zajac has Lucia down and is working on his helmet. Lucia trurns it around and takes down Zajac wrestling style. Zajac tries to rack Luica against the glass with arm cocked. Meanwhile TJ heads for the locker room. The fight showed more life from the Gophs than we've seen all year. I still can't get over the amount of clutch and grab the Gophers do this year. It is as bad as playing Mankato or Alaska. Every single time that Oshie had the puck he was mugged. Positive is we had no puck luck and got 3 points. A lot of pucks that wouldn't stay flat and bad hops/bounces. We played without Duncs. We still got 3 points. Almost every decent Gopher chance came off a fighting Sioux mistake or bad hop. Repeating: Adam lost control of the game on the Trupp check from behind, where tough Gopher took it to Trupp while Trupp was in no position to defend himself. Malone went in, because the ref was too late. Should've been 5 and a game for the check from behind, and double minor for roughing on the Gophs. Malone got what he deserved. Blake Wheeler is going to have to learn to watch his mouth, especially if he ever gets a shot at the NHL. When the Capitals play the Coyotes, Wheeler is going to have to face Joe without a face mask, and with officials who won't step in.

Now I backed Sagard earlier in this post, but to call out DZ as a coward is just assinine. The cross check from the back was retaliatory and designed to instigate. it wasn't cowardly, as he was definitely prepared to back it up.

After Saturday night here is th elatest from what I see: Miami vs RIT UMD vs BC Michigan vs BSU Michigan State vs Mankato*(Northeastern) CC vs Providence*(Notre Dame) Denver vs Northeastern*(Mankato) NH vs Notre Dame*(Providence) UND vs Clarkson Notre Dame #14 and Providence #13 switched to avoid intraconference matchup Mankato #11 and Northeastern # 10 switched to avoid intraconference matchup Don't like having to deal with NH again with VR in the lineup, but what can you do.

Was at the game, just read through the full thread. Take it easy in Sagaard. He has always been a decent poster despite his rodent roots! I've sen it a million times, but it still kills me. MN has this way of instigating and then looking innocent. This is why fighting should be allowed in the game and why guys shouldn't wear full masks. If you're going to act and talk like a punk, then be prepared to settle it like a man. Now fighting is stupid, but if you're going to talk the talk, then you'd better walk the walk. Minny is the princess of the world, and they love to take a shot, do a facewash, and then run for help from the official. Stand and deliver. If you want t ogo, take off the helmet and gloves and do it like a man.