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16 hours ago, bison73 said:
Of course Liberty HAS to pay because they are an INDEPENDENT . When they get to conference play they are still going to have the normal expenses.
You still havent explained how joining a WAC is going to alleviate the resource prolems?
No one in a conf like the WAC is going to spend any money, its a bare bones league. Teams will fund 70 scholarships if they are motivated and hit the minimum. If you are playing in a crappy WAC, why would you spend money. Get crushed 4 times OOC, they play down to a low level with the teams in your league. But you are FBS, so what's not to love about that?
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1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said:
How does Montana St coach Jeff Choate know that Incarnate Word wants to be FBS, which he says in this article? Maybe he was reading Siouxsports.com, when I pointed out an article in a San Antonio paper where IWU needs to trim down sports for FBS as they have too many
. How could Incarnate Word, McNeese St, Sam Houston St, and Lamar ever get the resources to go FBS, unless in a WAC with NMSU, UTRGV, Cal Poly, UCDavis, and Sac St?
Perhaps Montana State has been surveying the potential FBS moveup field to position themselves?
You are right about 1 thing . . . they could invest very little, move the WAC, and masquerade as an FBS football team. If that's what you want, I say do it.
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1 hour ago, nd1sufan said:
Two years from now the same people on this board will be begging for a 6-5 MVFC UND team to get in the playoffs.
I could give a crap whether 2 or 4 teams from the Valley actually get in. Just stating the fact that its the toughest conference top to bottom, and its not close.
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46 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
You’ve instantly lost all credibility with this first sentence.
There is plenty wrong with ALL 6-4 teams — that’s why they have 4 losses!
Dont place all MVFC teams on a pedestal just because of conference affiliation with cow college.
The strength of schedule argument is incomplete. You can’t just get 4 to 5 teams from the MVFC every season because it’s “so hard to win games”. That is the most shortsighted and ignorant argument out there. Minus SDSU and NDSU, the MVFC is nothing special (it will be in 2020 though ... ha). The MVFC will get a 3rd team but don’t bring a bunch of crap from bisonville over here to try justify a 4th or 5th. It just doesn’t cut it this season.
Damn
Go ahead and put UCF in your top 4, I won't. Your league and your schedule matters.
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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:
Their own representative called last weekend a disaster. Then they put out a big PR piece about their history in the playoffs....lol.
There is nothing wrong with the 6-4 teams in the MVFC. The worst team in the MVFC (MO St) has a higher sagarin rating than the bottom 7 teams in the Big Sky, and is higher than the bottom 3 in the CAA (very close to 2 more).
Wins are harder (top to bottom) in the MVFC, and there are relatively easier wins at the bottom of the Big Sky. Getting to 7 wins very hard in the MVFC, just a fact this year. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is what sagarin indicates. The MVFC is 8 points above the CAA as a league, 10 above the BSC. Do I think the top 4 in the MVC should get in? Yes
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You know that terrible over ranked UNI squad that everyone talking about over here? You may get your wish to play that team in the 1st round of the playoffs. 2 of the 3 bracket's I've seen have you playing UNI. Would be interesting to see who outbids who for hosting that one, as it could determine the winner.
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On 10/17/2018 at 6:52 PM, SiouxVolley said:
Since I was mentioned, Goon as a writer is one of the boringest bloggers ever that won’t ever inject his personal thoughts into a sports commentary unless it’s about keeping things the same, like losing and tieing Bemidji St.
That’s needed for reporting news, not giving sports commentary. It’s like getting black and white only as a sports color commentator.
Ya, Goon! You’re so boring you won’t even make anything up to pass off as fact. I mean, come on.
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7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
I fear we may have to win out to get in to the playoffs. I’m not kidding either. One loss to anyone and they’ll send us plummeting down the polls to exile.
I wouldn’t worry about the polls. 8-3 or better and you are in. Wins vs Sam and Monte will get you in at 8-3.
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7 hours ago, bincitysioux said:
That's not true! Not referencing jdub specifically of course at all, but if NDSU went FBS, 90% of UNDs football fan base would be frothing at the mouth that the same move would need to happen the next day for us. If NDSU did away with scholarships and joined the Pioneer league, it would be the same scenario. Where they go, we will follow. The fanbase won't accept a schedule that doesn't have The Bison on it. That's why we are moving to the SumValley, no other reason.
It is so perplexing to me that we voluntarily left a conference that FBS schools are apparently willing to drop down a level to join, while at the same time our new conference is wondering what DII schools could possibly be convinced to join.................
Conference that FBS schools are joining? It’s Idaho and New Mexico State, not LSU and Georgia. Idaho and New Mexico State . . . Two schools that have no shot at FCS titles. Idaho and New Mexico State . . . You realize its Idaho and New Mexico State, right?
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14 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:
It would be the stupidest thing NMSU has ever done, as it eliminates the possibility of FBS moveups, as the WAC can hand out FBS invites. Of course NMSU is talking to some Big Sky schools to get them to move up.
Post pictures of distant sailboats moving out of the picture . . . ** Here **
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Keys to Victory:
1)Pound the Rock, Control TOP
2) minimize the big Play on D
3) Make Sammy 1 dimensional, force them to pass
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7 hours ago, southpaw said:
MN is probably scared of regularly scheduling MVFC teams.
They’ll schedule the MVFC, as long as it’s Indiana St.
probably? Definitely is much more accurate.
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On 8/16/2018 at 2:13 PM, The Sicatoka said:
You don't have to repeat others' silly errors like that MAC mistake.
Right now the western FBS schools get to schedule FCS teams (bargain prices). What UND gets for playing Washington is not what a SunBelt team gets for playing an SEC.
I would say this about the SEC and the ACC, and some in the PAC12/B12. . . They are somewhat supportive of All-DI Football, and make it a priority to play and give paydays to FCS teams in their areas. Whereas, the B1G would just as soon kill FCS football, and pays them as minimally as possible.
MN and WI specifically have their panties pretty tight with regard to FCS and G5 football, finding the worst team options possible when scheduling. I’ll give more credit to NE and IA for having a spine. WI did just schedule SD, so that’s a step in the right direction (not sure about the payday.)
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3 hours ago, southpaw said:
Why? So there can be a competition to be the laughing stock of FBS? Raise your hand if you want to join a conference that has to play games Tuesday through Saturday to try and stay relevant.
And . . . The MAC would be a better situation than the WAC. So there’s that.
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12 minutes ago, Yote 53 said:
Part of my motivation to see this happen is because the Dakota schools should have gone D1AA in the 70's when the original split happened. We didn't and it took decades to get to the right level. So it's about being proactive this time and positioning ourselves to be at the second level of football rather than reacting decades later.
We can either push for, prepare for, and challenge our schools to aspire for better things, or we can talk about Augustana moving up to join the Summit. Do you all want to hang and bang with Augie again? Should we settle for that or aspire to something more?
Is being a bottom of the barrel league at the 85 scholarship level, aspiring for more? If a team is ready, it should make the move. 10 together, no.
if a playoff started at the G5 level, I would feel differently. But then it probably wouldn’t be 85 scholarship level, would it.
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Und specifically is just getting its feet wet at the 63 scholarship level. A move to the 85 scholarship level should be based on Unds readiness, no other reason. Quite frankly, UND is significantly less ready than a Montana or Idaho for example. Why would UND even be interested at this point? It’s too soon.
Additionaly, if 10 FCS teams all went to the 85 Level all at the same time (with teams that they are recruiting against), would the talent level improve much? “Marginally” I would contend. (See Idaho, 85 scholarships but not as much talent as many FCS schools)
The reason to goto 85 scholarships would be to advance past area competitors and create a recruiting advantage, not be metoo with all other area schools. I don’t see a reason or advantage.
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26 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:
Thanks for being such a star of reason on this board. Much of the bison board just comes here to argue and degrade, so an outsider with a eagle vision like yours is very refreshing.
There has been an FBS plan for quite some time but it takes a long time to get the gears moving amount all the schools.
Until there’s a G5 championship, or an avenue to join the FBS playoff for G5 Conf champions, why would you want to make a huge investment like this? I would support my team joining the MW, but I wouldn’t support joining 10 FCS moveups in a weak 85 scholarship league unless there’s a championship playoff to join.
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5 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
Nick Saban doesn’t go alone, he goes with the SEC, and there are not separating. Liberty goes to the bathroom alone, as they have megabucks.
So, you don’t teally want to compete at the 85 scholarship level, you just want to go there as long as 10 other FCS teams go with you and you can call yourself FBS? Is that right? I got it, you are a poser.
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4 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:
This has been said multiple times, but you don’t read. Those leagues get maximum CFP payment at 10 teams. They wouldn’t consider adding unless they lose schools, as just adding without subtracting schools would further divide the payments.. And they wouldn’t consider NDSU either with its FCS championships.
Looks like Chaves’ replacement really wants an expanded Roos Field so she can move up. But EWU just doesn’t have the resources.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/aug/10/lynn-hickey-working-to-both-chip-away-eastern-wash/
Some people goto the bathroom in groups . . . Usually girls.
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4 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:
So strange that NDSU will only play H&A with FCS schools that in my opinion will also go FBS.
Recent NDSU schedules have OOC FCS Delaware, Cal Poly, and Weber St H&A.
Delaware is renovating in the fanciest way possible. Without adding seats, the tickets will be much pricier.
UND has and will have H&A with three OOC schools that will also take the plunge: Mo St, Sam Houston St and Stony Brook.
During their collective FBS transitions, more games will be scheduled, as exisiting FBS teams are unlikely to schedule a transitional team.
Herd seemingly purposefully forgets the FBS teams often get three times of going rate the FCS team get against the same P5 opponent.
If you are truly interested in 85 scholarship football, then join CUSA, MW, MAC. Why dilute your big day by joining a bunch of FCS teams? What good does it do for 10 FCS schools to goto 85 scholarships. Separate yourself.
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2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Staring at a map and various conference (Summit, BSC) membership ...
UND, NDSU, USD, SDSU, UNO, DU
EWU, Idaho, Montana, Montana State, Weber State, Northern Colorado*That's 10 FB (nine game schedule) and 12 BB (22 games) with easy travel partners.
*UNC or Idaho State, pick poison.
I’m trying to understand the value of playing with 85 scolarships vs. 63 scholarships for the teams you listed. Let’s examine for UND.
Recent Attendance: 10,000; potential 14,000?
2017 Ranking: 171 Of 254; potential top 100?
Costs: add 3-4$M increase for 85 scholarships; finding revenue to try to offset is hard.
Profile: Elevated some, not a lot; Could get more regular B1G/B12 games, which would help outsider view of U.
Games: 8-9 Games would be played against today’s FCS teams spending more. Was Idaho better than FCS top 15? No. Maybe play 2 P5 Games vs 1? Schedule is higher profile, but not by much. Heck you’re playing Wash this year.
So, if I’m going to goto the 85 scholarship level, I’d want to do it in a Conf that is a step up, not a metoo Conf. Joining the MWC makes sense, join a 85 Level WAC . . . I don’t see the value.
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On 7/28/2018 at 11:57 AM, UND1983 said:
Why would they have the Washington guy on at all? Did they get the Alabama radio guy too?
Do you not see how weird that is?
Culhane and Brake have guys on many times that he has relationships with. WV, NE, TN, etc, etc. Yes, I would have asked a UW guy about the ND game, seems kinda silly that he didn’t.
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On 7/22/2018 at 6:48 AM, SiouxVolley said:
Rather strange that Wichita St is bringing back a marching band of over 100 to parade around a basketball court.
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/article215162835.html
Still say the the Shockers will restart FBS and play as an affiliate in the WAC. UTRGV hasn’t announced its fb feasibility study results yet. Sam Houston St and Lamar talked FBS years ago and are now silent. Mo St has an FBS stadium now. Cal Poly, UC Davis and Sac St have long had FBS plans.
Two words you will never hear in the same sentence, Wichita St and WAC.
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On 6/19/2018 at 1:07 PM, SiouxVolley said:
IPFW is rebranding it’s name to PU-FW by July 1st and it’s Mastondon logo to blue with Purdue’s black and gold. Their rebranding will be complete when they get into the Horizon League, as they are moving into a new downtown Fort Wayne arena. The Fort Wayne President will accept an offer from the Horizon in one second and the Summit will be endangered again if it doesn’t get a school with baseball right away.
http://www.wane.com/sports/purdue-fort-wayne-sticks-with-mastodons-in-athletics-branding/1247217621
No big deal, inevitable and good. Climb down from the ledge.
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Und attempted to hurt NDSU and bolster its own program in 2004-2009 period. NDSU returned the favor in the 2010-2015 period. Not a one sided deal. I have no issue with either. You do what’s in “your” best interest.
Und in the Big Sky was akin to a rennissance period for NDSU. Too bad it had to end to be honest, are you sure the budget didn’t work? Do you think TxA&M wants TX to join the SEC? Back to a forced relationship with an impossible to deal with ex-wife.