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On 4/30/2020 at 5:41 PM, SWSiouxMN said:
You are a little late
In all seriousness, UNDs bench did catch up with them at the end and NDSU has done a good job with their bench. In UND's case, they had very little bench. UND would have lucky to get 6-8 points a game from their bench last year. With the incoming recruits and Brady and G's development, that should hopefully fix the issue.
He was playing his Freshman recruit a lot. He had guys with more talent in the bench. It felt like he wanted them gone, but if he played them and they demo’ed talent, he would be challenged to keep them in the program. Very weird deal, how he treated previous recruits.
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7 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
So most teams are limiting their bench. Really. Let's talk after next season.
SDSU yes, previous coach played hardly anyone off the bench. Sather seems to like a very limited bench too. Why he redshirted players and kept others on bench when they could have helped was interesting. Not recruited by him, you had no shot it seemed.
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3 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
What didn't help either is playing at 8:30, 8:30, and 8:00 three nights in a row on the road. They looked like zombies come Tuesday night and the scoreboard showed it.
Which is what NDSU did in ‘19 from the 4 seed. You need a longer bench, developed throughout the season, to weather 3 in a row at the tournament.
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I know this is an old thread, but just wanted to comment. Lots of Summit League teams have gone through their conf schedules with very short benches. SDSU especially has kept it shorts. NDSU has gone 8-10 deep compared to others 7-8 during the conf schedule and leading up to March. It pays off come tourney time. It’s like being short on the DL, eventually it bites you. It wasn’t as big of a factor this year (unless you look at und lack of depth), but in ‘19, depth is the only way you win 3 in a row as a 4 seed. I don’t hear please talk about it, it you have to credit Dave R for developing his bench when others are working to limit their bench.
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7 hours ago, Hawkster said:
Thanks for saying it so I don't have to. And we have no business scheduling crap teams like Valpo. We deserve someone better than that.
Drake, Butler, Valpo . . . What’s the diff?
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19 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:
WIU fills their open coaching positions.
Rob Jeter, current Gopher assistant and former Milwaukee head coach (184-170 record) gets the gig.
Not a bad hire.
Good hire by Western, but you have wonder how thin the ice is for Pitino that Jeter would take the Western job. Schools is reportedly struggling financially and there is little fan support there. Not a great job imo, especially with top 4 players leaving. Jeter will need to work some portal magic.
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On 3/13/2020 at 1:34 AM, SiouxVolley said:
Not very bright, are you. The MVC has extensive tv contracts and the year that Loyola made the semifinals the MVC had like six shares that get averaged out. Any school that has an opportunity to move to a top 10 league will do it. Davidson is another example, going from the SoCon to the A10, which is a huge jump.
I’m going to address you, like you address others.
MVC is not top 10, are you a complete idiot and have no knowledge of college basketball whatsoever?
A10 top 10, MVC no, check any ranking. Typically 11-13. Loyola made a nice run and earned some money, but Creighton and Witchita are not coming back.
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15 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:
Hazekamp was a walk-on, UND only has 1 open scholarship right now.
He’s a scholarship player.
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8 hours ago, MIBT said:
I believe they both also dealt with injuries this year. I wouldn't assume their lack of progress was because they didn't develop. Neither plays Gue's position either. He split time with Rocky last year and Witz did that this year. If they don't step up next year, I expect the Bison to struggle. They have both shown signs to be very good though.
Not a Bison or Sioux fan. Just a fan of ND college sports.
The Bison roster will change quite abit next year, but I like the parts. I would expect Griesel Eady Knotek to grow and I mprove, but Shahid’s minutes will goto Don Carter, and Hayes and Christianson will get minutes. I also expect much more from Hunter his senior season and Cook who redshirted. Skunberg may get minutes right away too. I like the parts next year, and the depth . Rocky will also be expected to handle more scoring and lead the team, and I like his skill set.
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4 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
There are numerous examples where a recently transitioned school went to a conference that didn't accept non full DI schools. Northern Kentucky was invited to the Horizon from the Atlantic Sun at the very first moment and has dominated Horizon basketball since.
UST needs only it's new arena to get a promotion.
Is the one bid MVC a promotion? Not much of a promotion if you ask me.
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On 3/6/2020 at 9:49 PM, SiouxVolley said:
None of them. UST will be invited to the MVC after the transition and the Summit will be back to Augie.
UST is currently DIII and have a lot of work to do. If they join the Summit, they’ll be there for 15 years minimum.
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13 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:
Do I miss player Weber and Montana twice a year? Yes, I do.
However, I definitely have enjoyed watching UND play against the Dakota 3 again, and Omaha (even if they haven't beaten them yet in league play). I have enjoyed UND playing against ORU and Denver as well. I could give or take on WIU, Fort Wayne (and soon to be Kansas City)
Having the opportunity to go to Sioux Falls every year for the conference tournament is a very attractive option for me. I could never see myself going to Boise or Reno to watch.
I like that I can watch on ESPN3 and ESPN+ ($50 a year isn't bad) and not having to deal with Pluto TV is a nice thing.
As to whether the team would have finished higher in the standings in the BSC last year and this year? I doubt it. They still would have made it to Boise yes, but they wouldn't have been a threat.
I hope Sather can make UND a consistent threat in the Summit. A Dakota 4 semi-final in the Summit Tournament is going to be fun (and this will happen sooner rather than later).
I agree, there aren’t too many teams in the summit that I can’t get up for. PFW has been really good in past years, so even that game has had its moments. I like umkc’s location, but they were really weak in their last summit stint, so we’ll see. Western is probably the worst as far as location and fan support, but their teams have been respectable most years. ORU and Denver are quality schools in good cities.
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What is the objective opinion of being in the Summit vs the Big Sky with regard to league strength, style, etc? (Question not meant to anything more than a question. I know the Hawks had some stronger teams in past years)
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1 minute ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:
I would think that the SEC or Clemson would benefit more from this. With the exception of OSU, what other BIG schools would draw the best transfers.
Yes, it’s not just B1G, all of the P5 would like to find a way to take top players from FCS rosters.
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B1G wants their players, and yours too. All top players should be migrating to the all powerful B1G, right?
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I think you can structure a poll and often times get your desired results. McF’s desire is to show the folly of an FBS move. One could surmise that if an FBS move was as an independent, it would be the kiss of death, an thus a very unfavorable response.
if however, the poll listed specific FBS conferences for moving to, the responses would have been much more favorable. Put the MWC or the AAC specifically in the poll (not that it would happen), and watch the favorability grow exponentially.
So, that poll means nothing.
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30 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Never. Ndsu will forever be the greatest in the land. Incredible, just the best.
They could always cut scholarships again, you never know?
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On 10/11/2019 at 1:02 PM, SiouxVolley said:
The St Thomas addition from an NDSU perspective.
If St Thomas builds a larger than 6k arena on campus, they should quickly rise to the MVC and NCHC levels.
As UND learned and UST will find out, 21-22 sports in DI doesn’t work. UST will need to cull and grow their budget 20+ million to maintain 16 sports and compete. Playing DI scholarship hockey and football ain’t going to fly for at least 10 years. Suggesting there will be scholarship hockey and football right away is foolish.
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10 hours ago, zonadub said:
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. Guess the post was too long for you, so I will give you the readers digest version.
I am not advocating a split. The point of this post is that G5 FBS is not a better destination the FCS unless there is a playoff system in place. It was about the futility of going undefeated in G5, even if it is 2 years in a row, like Central Florida. And that March Madness is more national exposure than a pre-Christmas bowl game.
Agree with you on all your points. Just pointing out that waiting for a split is like waiting for Sasquatch to be captured.
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12 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
Colin Cowherd says EWU is going FBS. He didn’t sat how, but they can’t afford to go it alone, but if it’s a group they can afford it.
The Weber St President said the BSC will split along research / non-research lines. That’s President speak for FBS/FCS lines
Oh, now the split is BIg Sky conference split? Going FBS, is that like going steady? Ya, I’m on the edge of my chair. You are a full fledged chameleon, I’m embarrassed for you.
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On 9/17/2019 at 11:23 AM, zonadub said:
Driving through Albuquerque last Friday, listening to their sports radio talk show... discussion was about the upcoming U of New Mexico money game with Notre Dame.
Discussion turned to the goal of the season for the Lobos. Was interesting to hear the commentary that if the Lobos lose to Notre Dame and win out the season to finish 11 - 1 (unlikely, since UNM was picked to finish last in the MWC Mountain Division); they would go to the New Mexico Bowl. Then the comment that if the Lobos finish 9 - 3; they will go to the New Mexico Bowl... and if they finish 6 - 6, they will go to the New Mexico Bowl. Sounds like they are locked in for the New Mexico Bowl, as long as they have at least a .500 season. They also made reference to New Mexico State’s game the week before against Alabama and how these money games help athletic department expenses. And how Central Florida has been undefeated for 2 seasons and still didn’t get a chance to play in the FBS playoffs.
Is this the reality that UND wants to reach? To play in the Idaho Potato Bowl or the Doosan Snow Bowl as the pinnacle of the season? Never have an opportunity to play for a national championship?
Then the commentator talked about the apathy of the fans. Said he is a graduate of James Madison and how their fans are engaged and travel well. He said he has previously suggested a G5 split off so UNM can play for a championship, since their program cannot compete with the P5. He said there has been no support for this idea from the listeners, and at least one caller was adamantly against it before I got out of range to keep listening.
The reality is that G5 football is no more appealing than FCS. Having an opportunity to play in a national championship playoff has to be at least as good as playing in some obscure early December bowl game that nobody gets excited about. NDSU has proven that winning at the FCS level generates huge fan enthusiasm and the commentator said the same about James Madison. After all, isn’t local fan support more important, especially when it comes to home game attendance? UND can compete at the FCS level... despite the results a week and a half ago in Fargo, The Hawks can make the playoffs and even win a game or two there. No, they are not at NDSU’s level (yet), but very few in FCS are. History has shown that UND will catch up with them, later if not sooner.
All that said, UND must be ready to make the move if the P5 and G5 do split, especially if there is a championship playoff. Don’t get left behind again.
My final comment is that neither FCS championships (or a hypothetical G5 fb championship) nor D-I hockey championships will bring the notoriety and acclaim that winning a game or two in March Madness would bring. Here’s hoping Coach Sather can raise the BB program to win the Summit and get to March Madness on a regular basis.
Boy . . . I'm on the edge of my chair waiting for that Split, cause y'all know that that split thing is coming. You know, that Split that no one really knows anything about even though they act like they do. Ya that one, and boy I'm on the edge of chair in anticipation of that ole split thing. Cause ya know, I don't want to get left behind and stuff. Ya, I've got my eyes peeled waitin for that split that coming sometime between now and never. On the edge of my chair man!
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20 hours ago, North Dakota said:
The NCAA has no say over the Nickel trophy. It's a regular season game trophy that was agreed to between both schools key clubs. The NCAA only controls playoff stuff. Besides the Nickel is an exact replica of American currency so I don't see how anyone could ban it. UND should have never said it was off the table and not to be played for again. That said it's been retired so I think that ship has sailed.
The nickel would be the correct item to play for annually, the ncaa certainly does not care. But someone at Und thought it would a nice way to one up Ndsu by “retiring” it in their possession. If Ndsu had won it last, I have no doubt they’d be playing for it again. Let’s be honest folks.
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On 9/2/2019 at 6:39 PM, gundy1124 said:
Iowa St. beat Drake to end last year before a Bowl game.....27-24. Only if Drake could have taken them to OT would it have been a major accomplishment. Again, Iowa St. 27- Drake-24. Digest......
Lots of 2’s 3’s and 4’s playing for Iowa St I’d presume. I don’t read much into that score.
ISU dialed that one down before kickoff, with no desire to embarrass an in state lesser opponent. Score doesn’t surprise me.
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13 minutes ago, Wilbur said:
Its year 3.....how does PJ still not have a QB???
Agreed, low low ceiling QB in Minny.
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That’s one way to look at the dynamics in 2003, but a more objective view would say:
NDSU was being choked out in DII, and had a large upside in moving to the higher scholarship level with FB as its #1 sport.
NDSU had struggled with coaching and AD transitions from 94-03, and had lost their compass.
NDSU was at the right level of sports (16) in 2003, and was proactively planning and strategizing for a successful DI move. Und was resistant and in denial about DI. When they moved later, they did it because they had to, and had the wrong level of sports (21) to be successful.
Conference affiliations early in DI, advantage NDSU.
Name change and Pres/AD issues held Und back during the critical 03-10 period, similar to the earlier period at NDSU.