Bison06

Good question, by we I suppose I mean a combination of the media and local governments.

Serious question, all things being equal, in your opinion would we have responded the same way to the coronavirus if it wasn’t an election year?

Without taking it one by one with each allegation, I’ll just say this, it seems that the FBI for some reason had a serious bias against trump even before the election. Their text messages are unequivocal in this sense. I think this bias lead to them deciding from the beginning they would be digging deep and being hypercritical of his every move. I believe that if every president in my lifetime would have been investigated to the same standards that we would be equally upset with the ethical standards they held themselves to.

So clever, you must be proud.

Truth seems to be in the eye of the beholder based on all the half truths you just posted above.

Maybe you should find a photo of Clinton with his famous cigar.

I say the media has lost credibility with the public, which is demonstrably true, and you think that makes me a lemming? You’ve lost touch with reality.

I first became interested in politics in the late 90’s(I was born in the 80’s). By the time I was old enough to know what was going on, Clinton had made a complete mockery of the office.

And can you think of a reason that might be? They’ve thrown so much sh$t at the wall, hoping something might stick, that they’ve run out of credibility.

I’m not surprised at all you see it the way you do with Trump, obviously you believe all of the allegations leveled against him during his presidency. I guess you’ll have to use your vote to speak your mind in November, I’ll do the same.

I’m not sure we can go back to every politician to the beginning of time with my statement, but yeah, I’d argue pretty successfully that damn near every modern high ranking politician is ethically and morally corrupt.

Yep, the bitter end, January 2025.

All of our opinions are worthless. Yours moreso than most.

Agree to disagree you clown. They are all pieces of sh$t.

I find it interesting that the longer this thread exists the more it is solidified and proven that all politicians are corrupt, morally and otherwise. If we can agree on that, maybe we can stop with the petty, he said something mean, he’s mentally unfit etc etc garbage. Maybe it behooves us to actually vote for politicians based on policy. This is my justification for voting for Trump. He’s a trash human being, in a political sea of equally trash human beings. So vote based on what is being done policy wise and in that way, I think Trump is superior to Biden.

Looks like Hayduke’s competency in reading comprehension is only exceeded by his copy and pasting skills.

Exactly. Someone more well versed in these things would be able to explain it more eloquently than me, but the media isn’t concerned with true or false, they know that with the way people consume media these days, that sewing discord and doubt is enough to sway minds. A cleverly written headline that is outright refuted in the body of the article has become so common that reading headlines is basically worthless. The media is at an all time low.

But Biden is right?

Because that’s how you run a profitable hospital. You won’t hear this on CNN, but hospitals are always near capacity for ICU beds.

Calling the things he says lies is disingenuous from the media. Trump’s speaking style is imprecise and has a tendency to embellish and exaggerate and that is a problem, no doubt. But, some of the things they’ve said he’s lied about are ridiculous, because they aren’t even things that can be properly falsified. eg. “we have the best economy in the history of the world” that counts as one of the 20k lies the media are counting. But who the hell cares, it’s the best in some ways and in others it isn’t. Is that a lie? Nope. Turn off CNN just for a couple of minutes one day and you may see things more clearly.

Guess we’ll see, still think lefties are being overconfident.

Don’t kid yourself, regardless of the outcome, this election will end with lawsuits. If you think it’s only Trump setting the stage for that, you aren’t paying attention. We won’t know who the president will be before Christmas.

What's the most disturbing to me, is she has been playing the game so long, she realizes that even though it is on video and there is ZERO excuse for her to be breaking the rules she put in place, if she denies it she'll get away with it no problem. Absolutely disgusting behavior.

So typical. The ruling class in our country disgusts me.

Direct questions seem to be difficult for Hayduke. He prefers to speak in the language of memes and political one-liners.