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No idea how the opening line was only 19 vs MSU. Its a year awau but SU will at least a 4 TD home favorite vs UND IMO

My revision of my mid week revised early week prediction: 42-17 Cats

16 for UND. 12 for the Cats.

So what I'm gathering by some here is UND can't run the ball effectively but the more they do it limits the other team's offensive potential because it chews up the clock and thus shortening the game but yet UND can't pass the ball either with success. So to summerize UND's offensive capabilities heading into Saturday.............

Not to bother you....but can you repeat that bolded and underlined part again?

Mid week revision of early week prediction........UND runs the ball 43 times for 78 yards, wins the TOP battle to limit MSU's offnese, the defense gives up only 10 points by half but MSU still wins 31-6. (No missed PAT this week but 2 FGs made)

Oh....I get it NOW! UND's offensive philosophy of pounding the ball without success and not will to try anything else is just an attempt to try to keep the losing points spread palatable by limiting the other team's offense. If UND gets a few first downs that's just gravy. Actually having or expecting the offense to score points at any point in a game...meh.

Big picture....again I'm not suggesting we throw it 55 times like Muss did, but the offensive philosophy is completely a 180 with personal not geared for pounding it 40+ times a game. What did we throw it last game? 9 times? How about a happy medium even if it's 2 to 1 run vs.pass? Outside of 1 big play last week, UND ran 40+ plays for less than a 2 yard average. Now are any BS defenses going to be as good as SB's D from last week...apparently not according to most here but the BS offenses will be much much better. UND will have to score points to even be competitive in the BS week in and week out. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. If UND has 200 yards of total offense and 7 first downs on Saturday or next Saturday they will get beat by 30+. The defense has been impressive for the most part this year but to think they'll hold most BS teams to 17-21 points is very optimistic and even if they do UND has to score 17 which it hasn't done yet.

No alternatives? Play action on first down? Play action on 2nd down? Quick 3 step drop on first or second down? Screen pass or bubble pass? Off tackle on first and second down every series setting up 3rd and long has provided this offense with what? You are right...obviously I don't understand. It will be interesting to see what happens on both sides of the ball the next 2 Saturdays. Gotta go......Irish wants a rematch in Madden.

This.................

You are talking about a ball control offense that gets first downs to sustain drives which takes time off the clock and keeps the D off the field. Reality alert.........UND has shown zero ability to do that to date. Maybe this Saturday will be different but UND went 3 and out how many times last Saturday? That didn't protect the D one bit. I get you are the eternal optimist but seriously?!?! If UND goes 3 and out 8 times Saturday they will lose by 30+...plain and simple.

With all due respect what does this accomplish? At some point the offense has to put a drive together, which will require getting multilpe first downs, to score some points. "Draining the clock" as you state does nothing other than stick the D back on the field quickly. If you want to drain the clock and possibly get points, first downs are must. We might hit a big play on occasion but at some point you can't continually go 3 and out.

Yes and...yes. "4 hours" is a pipe dream!

Kind of sounds like a similar scenario with my s*x life so far this month. Drop the puck!

No Red Pepper?

Sanders, the Moon and Bonzers are tough to beat when we come to GF

Well played........ #whoneedsthegobc

<getting popcorn >

I like this too. Cue MM for a picture of the old NHL Kansas City Scouts hockey sweaters from back in the day. They are awesome.

Nope...too offensive to those between 3'6" and 7'6". Appreciate the effort though.

Not a math wizard but 2 TDs equates to 14 points which is still less than 16...correct? So 2 TDs wouldn't be a step in the right direction because 16 is greater that 14. Just saying...............

Good get for the Ralph though.

#bestdefensesincetheDiggerdays

The Cats scored 60 on UND last year...I don't think we'll have to wait 2 weeks for the defensive "measuring stick".

How about the Colts?