The Whistler
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anybody have a replay of nelsons checking from behind penalty??
It's up on Goons World.
http://ndgoon.blogspot.com/2011/03/nelsons-checking-from-behind.html
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Not so sure about the entitlement concept, at least with the employees. Faculty/staff salaries/benefits in ND are still way below the national average and below their private sector counterparts (unlike states like Wisconsin and Indiana). I'm okay with that, but I don't know if I would equate the system with an entitlement (like medicaid, social security, etc.). Also, over the last several surveys, I believe I read that the students were either satisfied or very satisfied with their state institutions in North Dakota (but I may be wrong on that).
The last point I would leave you with is the following question: Did you feel the same way about the system before the whole nickname fiasco? I think if the answer to this question is "no," then I would offer that this is mostly being fueled by your rightful anger over how this logo issued was handled.
No matter what though, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Reasonable people can disagree.
My problem with the system has come about with the overwhelming greed that the system has showed in the last three legislative session. Prior to the last session the Board of Higher Education demanded a 60% increase in funding.
And the more we give them the more they complain about being starved.
Prior to that the tuition increases were unconscionable.
Now the nickname debate is only related to that in that the Board of Higher Education ONLY cares what the administration says. They have no regard for the public and barely even care for the students.
Of course that's my opinion, but I believe the facts support it.
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Okay then, there you have it...politics will always be involved so let's turn everything over to the legislature because they voted the way we all wanted on this one issue. I'm telling you all, as ticked off as we all are, dismantling the structure because we don't like the people who are currently on the SBOE could lead to long-term dire consequences.
I really dislike our US Congress right now, they have overspent and have made horrible decisions in recent years. Should we dissolve the US constitution and turn everything over to the President because we don't like their decisions? Or should we just get the right people in Congress?
Likewise, let's look at replacing and recalling the folks on the Board rather than torching the whole system...I really think we are all forgetting how things used to be when the legislature controlled the SBOE...was not pretty!
And things are far worse now. The entire system is drifting into an entitlement for the administrators and faculty leaving the students behind.
And your point comparing this to dissolving the US constitution to dissolving the BOHE is just plain wrong. The difference is that in the case of he US Constitution the people have a chance to correct the mistakes of the congress. In fact last fall the voters completely changed over the House and made big inroads to the Senate. Now while I was happy about that change, not everyone here will be but at least everyone will admit that it's possible to change the direction of the government.
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He should have tried a between the legs toe-drag there before shooting into the open net.
He would have done that without the CC player tripping him by putting his stick between Frattin legs.
There was no tripping call by the way.
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I know there was a snappytv link earlier, but Bob posted a YouTube version...
Another one of my moves that he stole.
(Just kidding)
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I think he {Gregoire} got dinged up a bit against Tech.
I think he just got wore down scoring all those goals.
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I know everyone is ticked off at the SBOE over the logo issue (I know I am), but are we all really willing to shell the whole system over this one issue? Most states have learned that mixing politics between state schools and the governor or legislation is a bad practice.
Here's one example: say both UND and NDSU wanted to create a new program covering the same degree (let's say a veterinary program). Everyone would agree there would only have to be one program in the state (to save money), but who gets it? The institution that has the most resources and expertise to pull it off? Or, the institution that happens to have the most alumni in the current state legislature?
Again, maybe the SBOE President should resign, maybe there needs to be more oversight and accountability...no argument here. But please read the bill! In effect, the day-to-day operations of the colleges and universities in this state would be turned over to a very political and very bureaucratic process. Some years would be great for the Sioux, some years would be horrible. In fact, years ago, the system was setup this way and it really didn't work.
How do you think that the current system has removed politics from the equation. The BOHE is highly political, the only difference is that their politics are operating without the countervailing pressure of what the public wants.
I think we are far worse the way things are now. The colleges don't seem to have the students on their list of priorities. Despite massive increases in public support and tuition the schools are comparing themselves to starving children.
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bring on the Dancing Troll.
I miss the Hexstalls of yesteryear.
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Mac takes a check Walsh calls a phantom cross checking.
I hate him.
Edit, it was the second hit that they called so it probably was ok.
I still hate Walsh.
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So is nelson out tomorrow too.
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LaPanta gets a lot more excited when CC scores. To bad the Gophers didn't make it so he could wet his pants when they score.
I miss the rug.
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I will post it in the morning.
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if you can get a replay do it i cant describe it
The goal, the penalty?
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Cepis ............wait I could swore that was cpiss on the dive
Nelson's shoulders did move as if he was giving a cross check, but it also looked like the guy flopped to his knees.
I don't know how the refs don't call that though. Still we've been pulled down all over the place no call
Shortastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apparently Adam can call a major against us.
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Can someone post if Kristo says anything of note? Besides the obvious questions of "what actually happened that night?"
You're gonna have to learn your clich
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Offside on the Sioux at 18:32 was not offside.
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Someone competent? There are a few, Adam is not one.....Walsh....debatable.
Which ref was it?
Tim Walsh. #11.
Just another piece of worthless ****.
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I love the non existent high sticking that led to a goal. Can't they get anyone competent?
It's especially pleasant how the official was pointing at his eyes, presumably that he saw it, when it never happened.
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I think for President Kelley the nickname was a huge distraction and annoyance. I think the agenda always was to get rid of the nickname.
If it was a distraction it's only because he let it be.
If he had fought to keep it he'd be a hero whether he won or lost. Even Kupchella, as empty a suit as he was, at least got some respect for getting on the right side of the issue when he had to.
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Since we want Kelley gone how about the SBoHE how do we get these crooks out of office? Are they appointed or voted in or what?
The only sure way is to support a constitutional amendment to change the format of the Board of Higher Education. In the short term we should be pulling back support for the NDUS legislatively. We can find a way to do it without impacting the students. For example a law saying that all university officials living in university owned housing shall pay market value rent for their housing.
We have about 3 million dollars invested in those assets. I'd want at least 10% of that paid every year in rent to cover the upkeep and provide a return on our assets.
I'd also say audit audit audit. The Chapman whitewash told others in the system that you can get away with pretty much anything.
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I suspect this will get the Royal and Imperial Under the Carpet Treatment. Don't expect any serious investigation by the Herald or its ilk.
Well when any news comes out that threatens their sacred cows, like Conrad's sweetheart mortgage loan scandal, or Dorgan's relationship with the Abramoff group, the Herald acts as their defense rather than looking into it.
In the referenced Conrad scandal Conrad was getting into it deeper and deeper until he shut up and let the Forum/Herald take over.
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Why hasn't the GF Herald picked this story up or did I miss it some where? This seems like a fairly big deal that should be discussed outside of Sioux Sports forum. I for one think this a very low of the UND admin.
Um because the GF Herald is completely in bed with the University Administration no matter how much they trod on their readers' interests.
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Kelley works for the Board of Higher Education who ought to be working for the people of North Dakota.
If an employee is working with his immediate boss against the will of the owners of the company he gets fired at the same time as his immediate boss does.
I say it can't come soon enough.
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so is this the start
in UND Nickname
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What we do know is that despite the (1) fantastic increases in state funding and (2) massive increases in tuition prior to that the colleges are still (3) claiming to be woefully underfunded.
There are three facts.
My conclusion is that the more money we give them the worse they misspend it.