ScottM

You would think that the wheezy academics who run the NC$$ actually care about the perceived/actual wishes of tribal members. However, they are on a mission, as enumerated in 2005, and before, to remove Native American imagery from the athletic landscape. Their own hypocrisy in this regard is lost on them. Moreover, the sanctions imposed UND are serving as a valuable "object lesson" to the rest of the membership on this issue.

And most contracts allow for sanctions as agreed by the parties, such as what UND is seeing now for its failure to obtain tribal approval and still using the Sioux moniker, and/or other forms of legal redress, e.g., "breach of contract" claims.

That ain't cheap. Maybe they can send the bill to Clueless Al.

Uh, no. UND needed that support in 2005-10. It did not get it. UND is now under sanctions for failing to get that support as outlined in the settlement agreement. SR and SL could take out a billboard in Times Square expressing their undying love and support for UND keeping the Sioux moniker and giving them a 1000 years to use it today, and it still doesn't militate against the fact they didn't give that support during the required timeframe. The NC$$ would merely tap their enshrined copy of the settlement and smile.

I find it interesting that Mr. Durick, while a very fine attorney, has absolutely no connection to UND. That's a rarity in the NoDak bar.

Although I'm not sure Clueless Al is as sure of his "position" as he was last year. And the fact the Supremes snapped this up so quickly may indicate they have been paying attention to this mess and want it resolved for good.

Oh do tell us about "integrity". And while you're at it, tell us about "loyalty" as well.

Apparently "will of the people" gets short shrift in his concept of representative democracy which put Clueless Al into office in the first place, and was in full force over the summer/fall.

And they had a much better lawyer representing them too. It doesn't take that long to put together a brief, especially since the state has already mapped out their case.

I don't think very many people around here supported Clueless Al since we all knew the shiat storm that would result.

Careful now. Somebody may accuse them of being a "RINO" ...

You have an extra 11000+ seat barn laying around? Then again, maybe they can fit two-to-a seat at Scheels.

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I think you're perfectly qualified to run for elected office. Perhaps mosquito warden.

Clueless Al is proof positive that "politics is the redoubt of the idiot".

Maybe we can really see how stupid Carlson is if he ignores the points raised in Mac Schneider's open letter to him earlier this week.

I think so. I was extending on comments made by Fasion(?) regarding the women's hockey team and his view of a "solution". But if they have to hit the road to wherever we'll see what the "save the moniker" crowd really thinks about their "principles".

No, the NC$$ would have, and later did, change their rules in a way that would made any victory very short-lived. And we'd stil be having this conversation. IIRC the rules involved internal approvals by some committee or whatever.

I'm mystified by this stance too. It's as if what we're seeing so far isn't enough for them. Would they prefer something as dramatic as the BSC bouncing UND out, or the women's team getting home ice for the NC$$ and then having to play in Fargo? I daresay, if the men's team had to play a home game in Fargo, you'd hear a blood-curdling scream from some of these "fans".

Reed can't even grasp the fact there was a deal made in 2007, and his clients never even attempted to get a seat at the table before the settlement was signed.

True. I love this one ... Your clients and SR were intentionally MIA in 2005-2007. Both at one time or another indicated they had no interest in the issue, or opposed UND's use of the moniker. If they want the moniker, let them have it,but don't hang it around UND's neck like an anchor.

I think the two tribes' approval provision was the NC$$'s implicit fee for UND getting into D1 without many of the issues we're starting to see now. Considering the considerable attention paid to the the various inconsistencies and hypocrisy in their policy at that time, the NC$$ needed a "win" to show other member schools, and various groups pushing the "Native Americans as Athletic Symbols" agenda. As has been noted in previous discussions surrounding that litgiation, even if UND won a judgment, the NC$$ could have easily changed its policies to effectively put UND into the same position later. UND was effectively screwed by the NC$$ when it decided it wanted a ticket to D1. Most likely, given the breadth of the policy and the NC$$'s thinking, we would have been screwed the same way even if we had stayed at D2.

It seems to be the only thing you any affinity for in this fight. Nothing else. And you've just shown that your "principled stance" against the NC$$ is not very principled. In fact you're really nothing more than a caricature of the NC$$ writ small.

In other words, you think UND is worth throwing under the bus just so you can wear a hockey jersey for a defunct team. And if you think "costs" will go down, you know nothing about the "economics" of higher education. And those drivers aren't the athletic department.

And still lose their asses. You have to imagine Al Jaeger's office will be very, very careful about certifying any petitions as required by law.