NDSU grad

Well, the expansion project did just get approved by the Board of Higher Education. I don't think that would have happened if the expansion plans weren't imminent. Also, I'm sure many bball games will be played in the Fargodome.

It's about time you guys catch on. I'm really not uptight about it or anything. It just seems odd (at least to me) that UND would talk about expanding the Alerus right now. For the record, I would also find it odd if NDSU started talking about spending money to expand the Fargodome to accomodate 25,000.

But how many fans would you get for a UND-UM hockey game? 16,000-18,000? Wisconsin could even have the potential of bringing 15,000 or so. So why not expand REA to accomodate that potential crowd?

Does that line of reasoning apply to all sports or just football?

Really? Actually, Jfr, this is a conference in name only. It is more of a scheduling alliance. Games in Jan. and Feb. are hard to get for an independent because most teams are going through their conference, so this is simply a marriage of convenience. It will slowly dissolve as these teams get accepted into established conferences.

How do you think this proposal affects any future UND plans?

And I seem to recall a 5-6 UND team in 2002 coming back a "few months" later to play in the DII championship game. Look at USD between 2003 and 2004. Believe it or not, teams can get alot better in one year.

I-AA has their own playoffs, and no, I-AA teams do not participate in the I-A bowls. Many I-AA teams play a DI-A every year. Next year NDSU is playing at Ball State, and in 07 they will play the Gophers. Appalachian State won the national championship this year, and some of the traditionally strong programs include Montana, Delaware, Georgia Southern, Furman, and Appalachian State.

"UND recruits". You got to be kidding me. Well, both of those statements are simply lies. I guess the only "local" people on Bohl's staff are Bradley, Laqua, Wash, Vigen, and Essler. I also think it's pretty clear Bohl and Co. have made a commitment to recruit locally. Well, you're out of luck because chances are these kids will do just fine. Kyle Steffes is one of the top 15 or so RB's in I-AA. The best of the best of the local recruits will excel in I-AA.

IMO the only program you would be "sacrificing" is women's basketball. Not trying to be smacky, but the only people I have heard that from is Sioux fans. DI- AA is a higher level that DII, plain and simple. How much higher can be debated. Men's basketball is the sport that has the most to gain. Whether it makes sense or not, local players seem to not want to be associated with the DII tag. There is no way NDSU would have the recruiting classes the last two year if we still DII. We maybe would have gotten one or two out of the nine that did commit.

That argument could be made in basketball, but these football recruits will be eligible for the playoffs when they are sophomores (assuming they redshirt). And of course, NDSU will be competitive in the I-AA football playoffs, as would UND.

Let's see if I can get this right. Grayshirt refers to a guy out of high school that may be on the borderline of being a "star" DI recruit. I think generally they don't enroll at the college of their choice the fall semester. They enroll in the spring and pay their own way, and of course participate in spring football. The next fall they are given a full scholarship. Somebody correct me if I screwed that up.

I think it's a list of schools that have either moved up to I-AA in the last 20 years or so or have added football in that same time frame.

I'm winging this, but I think I'm close. About 120 D-IA football teams, about 120 I-AA football teams, about 150 DII football teams. Hockey, don't really know. I believe there are 334 teams in men's and women's bball competing at the DI level.

I was thinking the same thing. The Gophers and Sioux didn't worry me, but now that Mayville is in the picture I guess the Bison can kiss him good-bye.

Not trying to hijack the thread (ok, maybe I am), but I've heard alot of talk about Trenbreath. Is it guaranteed he will play next year. If so, that's fantastic. When he first got injured I was worried he wouldn't even be able to live a "normal" life. Now it looks like he might be playing football again.

Ross Pankratz was not recruited very hard by either NDSU or UND. Glas offerred him to walk on and redshirt and potentially earn a scholarship. NDSU didn't even offer him that. I don't know what Northern offerred, but I'm guessing at least a partial scholarship. I think Dustin Undlin was recruited much harder by NDSU and UND, but it was one of the few instances where Northern won a recruiting battle. Of course, Pankratz turned out to be quite a bit better player in college. I don't really know about any of the other ND kids.

My bad, I guess I'll have to take the "NCAA Division I Manual" refresher course The September 1 date does make more sense, since it falls more in line with the start of the academic year.

If UND got the paperwork to the NCAA by Wednesday, 05-06 would be their "exploratory" year. Obviously, that's probably not going to happen.

Jim's made it perfectly clear that smack is not permitted on this board, nor is any talk not related to UND. Tony has not made any such rules on Bisonville. There would probably be as many NDSU/smack-related posts here if Jim governed this board in a similar fashion.

My guess (and that's all it is) is that we used tuition waivers to cover the deficit.

As to your first question, I guess it depends. Generally if you hear in the news that a researcher received a $1 million grant, that (in your example) would mean a total of $1.4 million was received. The Department of Agronomy (and perhaps every department in the university) divvied up this indirect money in roughly the following way. About 50% to the university, 25% to the college, 20% to the department, and 5% to the actual researcher. What specifically this money was used for I have no idea. NSF and NIH grants are by far the most desirable, since they contain the most indirect monies. USDA grants suck as far indirect monies, I think they cap out about 15%. I have no idea what the DOE and DOD doles out relative to indirect spending.

I hate to get involved in this silly pissing match. Woden, that's a pretty good break down. Put Tadisch in place of Erickson on the o-line (also a Babich recruit so the point is probably moot) and you nailed the starting lineup. The only thing I would disagree with is that the current sophomores who redshirted and juniors who played as true freshmen were recruited in 2003, after the plans to go DI were announced. I would consider them DI recruits, since they were basically promised more scholarship money after the transition was made.

The final two finalists for the Bison head coaching job were Bohl and Casey Bradley. I think originally about 25 people applied for the job, then the last was narrowed down to maybe half a dozen or so. I can't really remember who was on the extended list (other than Rocky Hager).

What's the turnaround time on the appeals process, i.e. when did Utah and Central Michigan file their appeals, and when can UND expect a response on their appeal?