Teeder11
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But, if TT beats the Sooners today and somehow walks away with a NC, it will be even more reason for us not to feel bad next year.
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Sioux keep it tied at Half Time. 17-17 Whew!
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FG 17-17.
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Whereas the DS would have sought out the 5 people who are against the logo and printed their opinions.
That's funny, because, just yesterday I was discussing with a work buddy of mine what he thought of the new student newspaper. We were looking at the section of the five people who gave their opionion on the nickname. My buddy said, quote, "Yeah, I bet they went out and took the first five people who spoke up for the nickname!"
It's interesting how people can look at something and take away differing opinions, depending on their philosophical bent.
That said, I think the alternative newspaper is a nice move for the campus community! I wish it much luck!
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A - Because they're the Herald - anti-nickname all along - not a huge suprise!
B - Having watched every newscast tonight...most were balanced with the exception of FoxNews - who decided to only portray the protesters side. They report - YOU decide
C - The protest was a legitimate news angle to the story. REA payed the expenses for the supporters for this event, which actually was a contrived media event if you're honest. The protesters (as few as they were) actually showed up and waved their stupid signs around in the rain, for awhile, although it apparently got a little chilly for some and they bailed out early.
THE BOTTOM LINE...this is ALL getting too stupid and moronic and UND needs to move on...no one is going to break into your house and confiscate your Sioux jerseys...wear them until they disintegrate! The NCAA agreement says they can't jackhammer out the marble logos from the floor of the REA because it's too expensive - so it will always be there as a testament to our history - but MOVE ON! We need to latch on to a new UNIQUE name like Norkotas and keep screaming "home of the...SIOUX!!!" at the end of the national anthem! Then "THEY" can't bitch and we'll have a new identity that has links to the past with hopes for a idiot/PC free future! Just my opinion...
I thought KVLY's coverage was pretty slanted, as well.... just my opinion, Mikey, I mean, SiouxMeNow.
Here's a little phrase you should learn before you criticize other media outlets-- "full disclosure." As a KVLY camera holder, you're not exactly unbiased are you, bud. That said, I agree with your shots on the Heraldo. -
I would imagine that they will cut positions that aren't that important or they can afford to cut and or people ready to ready to retire.
I think Goon hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what will happen... if no one volunteers. Marilyn isn't an official Herald/Forum Comm. employee.. Like Darrell Kohler and Naomi Dunavan, she is an adjunct columnist, getting paid by the line inch. They're not salaried, so they aren't affected directly buy the buyouts.
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I personally think the statue came from Superman's home planet of Krypton. I am waiting for management at Engelstad Arena to provide specifics
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I totally agree. However, it's neither a "news story" nor is it "journalism." The letter in question is one man's twisted opinion on an extremely controversial issue. Letters-to-the editor, editorials and other content on the Op/Ed pages are not to be considered "news stories," the same as advertisements are not. The Herald may censor things from its news pages or Op/Ed pages, but I think most on this message board would agree, that we should not be advocating for censorship of any kind. Not even if it's trash and drivel that we whole-heartedly agree with. For as much as I read on here the mantras denouncing PC ideology and calls to support the 2nd Amendment, the NRA and the like, I would assume that most on this board would also stand by everyone's right to an opinion (unless it is libelous, of course.) I say let John Hoff and the other anti-name crowd spew their twisted logic as much as they want. It only helps to expose them for the nuts they are. And, while we're at it, I say let's give the Herald a back-handed pat on the back for printing this garbage and for helping the cause of those who want to support the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo.
Quick edit: Not even if it's trash and drivel that we whole-heartedly disagree with.
Thanks!
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To me it takes balls the size of Alpha-Centari(spelling)to print this garbage. What content editors are there at the Herald. To allow someone to submit this as a legitmate news story and then give the OK to print it, is at the very least pathetic and at most horrible journalism
I totally agree. However, it's neither a "news story" nor is it "journalism." The letter in question is one man's twisted opinion on an extremely controversial issue. Letters-to-the editor, editorials and other content on the Op/Ed pages are not to be considered "news stories," the same as advertisements are not. The Herald may censor things from its news pages or Op/Ed pages, but I think most on this message board would agree, that we should not be advocating for censorship of any kind. Not even if it's trash and drivel that we whole-heartedly agree with. For as much as I read on here the mantras denouncing PC ideology and calls to support the 2nd Amendment, the NRA and the like, I would assume that most on this board would also stand by everyone's right to an opinion (unless it is libelous, of course.) I say let John Hoff and the other anti-name crowd spew their twisted logic as much as they want. It only helps to expose them for the nuts they are. And, while we're at it, I say let's give the Herald a back-handed pat on the back for printing this garbage and for helping the cause of those who want to support the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo.
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Sorry if the truth hurts, but I know for a fact that I'm right. It is a well-known fact that the NRA has fought to keep assault weapons from being banned. Don't even try to mislead people into believing otherwise, gun-boy.
I can't believe you bit on this one, BisonDan. Have fun.
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The Washington Times printed this? That's the most conservative-leaning, anti-pc paper this side of the Wall Street Journal. What gives? I guess it's not just the bleeding-heart liberal rags that can't get their facts straight.
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First off it is almost July.
The Herald newspaper is a joke; they were falling all over themselves and were in a big hurry to report this story when it happened. So if that story is good enough to put out there when these kids were getting cited by the police so is the story about the charges being dropped. Why isn't that story on the front page? While I don't have a lot of love for the regular beat writers at the Herald I do think the sports writers at the herald do a great job of covering Sioux hockey and other Sioux sports, but the rest of the paper in my opinion is nothing more than liner for a bird cage, or for wrapping fish. I also know that I am not the only one that feels that way. We get it you love the Grand Forks Herald. Also notice how McFeely hasn't even made a mention of this story either.
I don't love or hate the Herald. I just read it regularly like you and most everyone else on here. I was just trying to add my two cents on why I thought the story got buried. I was not defending anyone. I was not justifying anyone's actions either. Fact is: they were late on the story for whatever reason. So they touched on it and moved on. If they would have dwelled on it, they would have had to explain why they didn't notice the charged were dismissed in a month a go. If they had reported it the day of or the day after the court proceedings in question, the placement would have been different, I believe. I am saying they were embarrassed (and they should be) so they buried it. Do you understand my point now? I am being critical of the paper not supportive.
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I find it ironic that Herald burried it so far in the newspaper.
I think the burying had more to do with the paper being so embarrassed that it took them so long to discover that the charges were dropped (May!!! I mean, c'mon) than with some kind of conspiracy to downplay it.
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Don't worry they will come up with some goofy concocted numbers using million man march math to keep any alleged advantage
But I thought enrollment wasn't indicative of quality of education? Hasn't that been the mantra of NDSU for decades? You finally convince me, and then you start putting out a different vibe. What gives?
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When did this turn into a SU message board? I liked it better when it was back-and-forth smack between us and them. This whole thing with Bison fans chatting with each other on a Fighting Sioux board just isn't right.
By the way, I like when people think outside the box ( I hate that term), but let's keep the game on this side of the Red River. And let's get it going again quickly.
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enrollment is still higher than NDSU
Oh yeah! -- My dad can kick your dad's a$$!
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The "Fighting Sioux" make it to the Frozen Four four straight years. The Sioux name will be plastered across the country on television next weekend. Do the members of the tribes of Spirit Lake and Standing Rock like this or would they rather not have the "Sioux" name all across the nation and be forgotten?
I understand your point... but I hardly think UND's use of the nickname and logo has any bearing on the legacy of the Sioux people and whether they're remembered or not. We fans may try to inflate it to that level, but let's be realistic.
Go Sioux, Beat BC!
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Doesn't the entire debate basically comes down to this? Lets face it... I'd like to think the majority of us ARE respectful REALIZE the history and proudly wear/use the name/logo. Then you have some absolute idiots go and decide to throw a Cowboy/Indian (why not cowboy/cowgirl??) party on a campus embroiled in a debate over the nickname. HOW STUPID CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE!??! My thoughts are confirmed when you read some of the posts on the Herald... we truly have some bigoted/stupid idiots out there. If they do retire the nickname in the near future (I hope not), I hope they directly link this event to the ultimate decision.
The party reminds me of a shindig at Ok. State University a few years ago. Some brilliant white boys decided to throw a KKK themed party.
Sadly, SoonerNSioux, you are totally right on the money with your comment. You call it like it is.
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I agree with Goon. I'm not holding my breath on those games and anyway we would never see them at the Alerus (if we're taking football). The clock is ticking on this and we are losing. I only have one vote, but I swear that I will never vote for anyone or support anyone who goes against this name. As soon as I get feedback from the North Dakota Triad, I will post on here. I'm also strongly considering never buying a Herald again. Is it true the editor if the Herald is against the name? If so, it's time to go internet only with the news.
The editorial board of the Herald opined a few years ago that it would be in the best interest of the institution (more than athletics) to move toward a new nickname.
Members of the editorial board that I know personally and my read on them:
Editor/publisher Mike Jacobs remains a passionate supporter of UND athletics, though he is conflicted, when it comes to the nickname. He's not the one leading the charge on the editorial board to change the name, but he also wouldn't cry if it eventually changed. Despite the nickname, he still is a fervent follower of UND athletics for as many events as I see him attend.
Opinion editor Tom Dennis: Not sure of his stance totally. He is not an alum and comes to North Dakota from out of state ... Pennsylvania. I think he would advocate for a change if all tribal members had a chance to vote on the issue and it came out strongly against the name. If it came out the other way, I could see him support keeping the name.
Managing editor Kevin Grinde: He is an East Grand Forks resident, Bemidji State grad, former outdoors writer and all out Fighting Sioux supporter nickname and all, no if's and's or buts.
Columnist Doreen Yellowbird: We all know her stance.
CFO Anita Geffre: Don't know her stance.
So you can see the editorial board as individuals, as I know it, are not slam-dunk against the name. Although as I wrote earlier, they (as a whole) did advocate for "a gentle nudge" toward changing the name a few years ago. It would have been interesting to know how each member voted on that editorial.
As for the rest of the newsroom, it is by far a more favorable environment for nickname support.
The entire sports department is behind the nickname and logo, save maybe sports editor Kevin Fee, who tends to take a don't-care-either-way approach.
Joe Marks, UND beat writer, tends to write stories that are both favorable to the nickname cause and detrimental to it, so I see him as doing what a good reporter should, and that is report both sides of the issue.
I know a bunch of reporters who are dyed-in-the wool Sioux fans and always have been, and they hate when they're lumped in with the editorial board, when people talk about the Herald's take on the nickname.
Bottomline: The newspaper is not cut-and-dried against the nickname, no matter what the conspiracy theorists say.
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"Get Smart," McFeely.
Bakken has nothing to do with this. It's all McFooly's doing here. Let's not confuse the issue. Bakken is as big a Sioux homer as we are. -
Way to go Drew! A five-point night (3G, 2A) and the No. 1 Star for the game in a 10-to-1 rout of the Thrashers!
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Below is the story from the Herald that someone referenced earlier about K Dawg and Gretz
Grand Forks Herald (ND)
November 15, 1998
Section: A
Edition: FINAL
Page: 01
ONE OF `THE BOYS'
MARK KAUK IS GREATER GRAND FORKS' NO. 1 SPORTS FAN
Ryan Bakken, Herald Staff Writer
At age 6, Mark Kauk was still playing with toddler toys when his mother brought home baseball cards one day.
His life changed forever. He'd set those cards out on his bed, put all the players in their real positions and make his own game, Betty Kauk said. It was his own little world.
He'd do the same with hockey, basketball and football cards, too. Sometimes, he'd use a scissors to cut out their body silhouettes to make them look more lifelike. He'd get drink stir sticks shaped like hockey sticks and tape them to the NHL playing cards.
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