Ray77

The NHL's Vegas expansion draft, explained

Agreed. I think of the "Brett Favre scenario" here. When he initially left (got traded?) from the Packers to the Jets they had some sort of clause that the Jets could not trade him within the division, because they knew the Vikings wanted him, and the interest was mutual. I would guess there is going to be a lot of legal wording in some of these deals to prevent some of that stuff from going on.

Agreed. It'll be interesting to see how many teams gamble with not protecting "older" players that have large contracts with the mindset that Vegas won't take that player. And to see how Vegas handles it, too!

Teams have to submit their protected list by June 17th, and then Vegas gets 4 days to select their players. They are also (and have already been) negotiating with other teams for concessions in order for Vegas to stay away from certain players, as some teams may be hamstrung by who they can protect (explained below in the linked article). Once that process has completed, the 'normal' NHL draft takes place on June 23rd. Here's a good article that helps to explain the expansion draft: Rules for 2017 Expansion Draft

I think there are so many intricacies on how teams can handle this and the rules surrounding this. I dug this article up from 2011: Chris Pronger’s contract could make things awkward for Philadelphia If I'm reading this right, if Pronger would have retired his cap hit would have remained with the team and counted against the cap. This is to prevent teams from giving out massive, long term contracts to aging players. However, if he would not retire and they place him on Long Term Injury Reserve (LTIR) it would free up his cap space. This may help to answer the question that I and @cberkas were talking about earlier.

It's going to be a short window. Lists are submitted on the 17th and will be released for you and I to see on the 18th. Then Vegas's selections will be submitted and announced on the 21st. So if there's a fun way we can do something fantasy-wise on this, it'll have to be quick!

What kind of fantasy-type game can we do with this expansion draft? Anyone have any good ideas?

Yeah, I think that's a fairly accurate statement. As the contract is insured, I'm assuming it would be paid by insurance and not by the NHL team? But yes, it would still count against the cap for that team.

I'd take this one: Hypothetical No. 2: Wild trade Jonas Brodin to the Bruins Boston gets: Jonas Brodin, 2017 fifth-round draft pick Minnesota gets: 2017 first-round draft pick, Colin Miller I like Colin Miller, but not as much as I like Carlo and McAvoy. I think if the Bruins could snag Brodin, that'd be a plus for the blue line.

Yeah, I understand where you're going there. I just think it's a slippery slope when having the NHL bail out teams in certain situations. It would have to be very clear what would and would not qualify for a league bailout.

I'm trying to think this through. Here are my first take comments on that... I think I agree that the Coyotes with Pronger's and Datsyuk's contracts is a joke. For a team to take on contracts of players that aren't in the league for the sake of taking on salary to meet the salary floor, that shouldn't happen. However, maybe what should happen is that the team that signed the player (or that the player is with at the time when they get injured) should have to keep that player and not be able to trade their rights to another team like the Coyotes to help them reach the salary floor. Your comment "Prongers contract killed the Flyers" is the Flyers issue to deal with. They gave him that contract. They should have to live with it.

I could be wrong, but I believe Pronger is under contract with the Coyotes. He works for the NHL, but is being paid by the Coyotes. Sounds like the Clarkson deal is that Vegas will take Clarkson's contract in exchange for the Blue Jackets' 1st round pick (#24 overall).

Surprisingly enough, our 2017 champion, @Engineer did take Guentzel! When I first saw that back when the playoffs started, I thought "he's crazy"! Well, who's the crazy one now?!!

I think a few people are going to be upset. Both DaveK and Roosevelt83 are the first 2 that come to mind...

I'll just leave this here Stanley Cup Game Champions: 2015 - Ray77 (147 pts) 2016 - DaveK (133 pts) 2017 - Engineer (105 pts)

And it ends up Pittsburgh in 6...Sica nailed it! Final score: 43 - The Sicatoka 49 - Ray77 Congrats Sic!

2017 Stanley Cup Final - Final Results...congrats to Engineer! 105- Engineer 92 - KoolGuy2K 86 - Shawn-O 81 - George M. Bluth 81 - The Sicatoka 81 - stoneySIOUX 76 - sioux rube 74- Ray77 47 - 90siouxfan 23 - siouxforcefans Have I asked this question yet...how the heck did 6 of you take Penguin players, yet nobody took Malkin?!

Tuesday morning June 6; series tied 2-2; Game 5 in Pittsburgh on Thursday night. 96 - Engineer 89 - KoolGuy2K86 - Shawn-O78 - George M. Bluth 76 - The Sicatoka 76 - stoneySIOUX74- Ray7773 - sioux rube47 - 90siouxfan23 - siouxforcefans

Stanley Cup Game 2 - June 1st update (please verify): 93 - Engineer 87 - KoolGuy2K86 - Shawn-O76 - George M. Bluth 76 - The Sicatoka 74 - stoneySIOUX74- Ray77 71 - sioux rube47 - 90siouxfan23 - siouxforcefans

I read that too. That may change my rankings of where Fleury ends up per @The Sicatoka's question that he posed earlier in this thread.

Breaking: A former veteran NHLer and team captain retires at 35-years-old

Stanley Cup Game 1 - May 30th update (please verify): 90 - Engineer 87 - KoolGuy2K86 - Shawn-O76 - George M. Bluth 75 - The Sicatoka 74 - stoneySIOUX74- Ray77 71 - sioux rube47 - 90siouxfan23 - siouxforcefans

Sorry this is late...was out of pocket all weekend and completely forgot about this. Nashville over Pittsburgh in 7.

We're getting closer!!! Golden Knights expecting active trade market