82SiouxGuy

The last time I checked, less than 50% of the states had flagship schools using the state nickname as the school nickname.

He said that most Class B high schools have wrestling. That is obviously wrong. Most means more than 50%. Well under 50% of North Dakota high schools actually offer wrestling.

Less than 1/3 the number of wresting programs as boys basketball programs in Class B, and a lot of the boys basketball programs are consolidated. Less than 25% of North Dakota Class B high schools have wrestling. That is a lot less than "most".

Berry was more involved with recruiting than Hak, the assistants do more of the real recruiting. The parents probably know Berry and Dane Jackson better than they know Hak. One of the other recruits said that Berry getting the job was the main reason for staying committed to UND when Hak left, he was very comfortable with Berry and Dane. I would guess that most of the recruits feel the same way, so the change in coaches probably isn't a factor in his decision to play in Canada.

How, by admitting I actually stooped to reading what an NDSU supporter posted?

I'll tell my brother, the lawyer, about the legal advice I got on the interwebs from an NDSU supporter. I'm sure he'll be impressed.

Do you have any evidence that any or all of those parties haven't agreed that the trophy would no longer be contested? Do you know of a lot of rivalries where they only play every 5-10 years, yet still play for a traveling trophy? Do you really know what the terms of the trophy are, that the current holder brings the trophy to the next game, or did you just make that up? Do you have any clue at all what has been said between the 2 athletic departments about the trophy? Or are you just here blowing smoke, trying to cause trouble, and filling a Friday night? Have you heard what they say about possession being 9/10's of the law?

From the stockyards?

My opinion is that it is wrong to dismiss the opinions of a significant group of people. Like Roughriders all you want. But it isn't right to dismiss the opinions of those that don't want the name because Red River uses it, especially when you act like their opinion doesn't count because they are "townies" or that they "can't see beyond the city limits" or some other insulting language. Talk about an elitist attitude. Somehow you think that you are better than people who live in Grand Forks? Roughriders may or may not end up being the best choice, and may or may not end up being the final choice. But this attitude that the opinions of people in Grand Forks don't count if they disagree with you is my problem.

There are 50,000 plus people that live in the city of Grand Forks. They buy tickets to games at UND. Their businesses are sponsors for events. The kids become students at UND. The community is a major support system for the school and the athletic program. This isn't some rural school with a couple of hundred students. Some of their games do have attendance of at least a couple of thousand. That's why it has to be taken into consideration. It doesn't matter if you can't see a potential problem, I'm sure that officials at UND will take it into consideration. The local citizens get to have their opinion, just like you. If Fargo North wants to change their name, let them. That doesn't mean that Grand Forks residents and former residents don't get to have an opinion on the subject that you may not like. Your dismissal of that opinion isn't going to help the argument.

Does the sports writer now speak for the entire community? Or is it that your opinion trumps everyone who disagrees with you? There are people that don't like the idea because a local school already uses it. A sports nickname helps give a school an identity. Some people see it as UND stealing or diluting the local school's identity. Red River has used the nickname for almost 50 years. Others, mainly Central alumni, don't like the name because it is associated with Red River. You don't have to agree with either of them. But the school has to recognize the potential conflict and decide if it is enough of a problem to choose a different name.

It is a problem, it just hasn't been decided how big of a problem it is. I've talked to people from both Red River and Central that have a problem with it, and people that don't. Yes, there are problems with every potential nickname. My point was that comparing UND and Red River using the same nickname with NDSU and Hazen was not an equal comparison. I agree that UND needs to look at the big picture. Part of that is recognizing any potential conflict with Red River using the nickname, and whether that is bigger than the potential good that could come out of it. You think the positive outweighs the negative, we will see whether the committee and the University agree or not.

Started out as a single school that later split into high school and college. Not a lot of comparable situations to that.

Yes, UND represents a lot more than just the south side of Grand Forks. But you are discounting the fact that the schools are less than 2 miles apart, that they are covered by the same local media, and that there are thousands of local and regional people that are either affiliated with both schools or are at least familiar with both schools. None of these factors are true for your comparisons of Hazen or Milnor, which means that those comparisons are not very relevant. That was my point. The situation of having UND and Red River using the same nickname is not comparable to any local situation, and definitely not similar to Hazen or Milnor. The only comparison that I know of that is close is Iowa State Cyclones and Ames Little Cyclones. That is a case where the high school copied the college team, but added Little to acknowledge the fact that they were the different team. Not a case of the local university copying the local high school with the exact same name.

I didn't realize that NDSU was located in Hazen, or in Milnor. How many thousands of people are affiliated with the Hazen Bison? They average about 60 per class right now, so probably not a lot of thousands. How about Milnor? They average less than 20 per class, so even fewer thousands. And how about those Milnor/North Sargent Bulldogs? You know, since Milnor coops with North Sargent for sports like football and girls basketball. Does the Fargo Forum, KFGO, WDAY and the rest of the Fargo media spend a lot of time talking about the Hazen Bison or the Milnor Bison? Maybe those situations aren't exactly the same as if the University is located in the same town as one of the larger high schools in the state that has several hundred graduates each year.

I would be willing to bet he has seen the video, has talked to others involved, and knows more about the case than rubes that have watched the video on the interwebs. The start of the video probably isn't where the incident started.

The District Attorney has already stated that the woman will not face any charges. He stated that she was acting in self defense, that Johnson was the original aggressor and he started the chain of events. He will have to be very talented to get a second chance under the current conditions. Most teams do not want to deal with someone that has physically assaulted a woman for fear of the public backlash.

I think so. It's been several years since I've eaten there. I don't get to the Twin Cities very often these days.

Any name that is discussed and chosen is going to be considered brutal by some group of people. Having no nickname is brutal to a lot of people.

Are you talking about Market BBQ?

My sources tell me that it is going in next to Borrowed Bucks.

I was in Williston about a month ago. From the people I talked with it didn't sound like a lot of people were leaving yet. Many of the people I talked with were happy to be working more regular hours rather than working 18-20 hours a day.

A lot of the people that moved for oil jobs are used to the oil industry. They know all about the ups and downs. They also know that the same slowdown is affecting other oil areas. Some will move away and some will take "regular" jobs to hold out until things pick up on the rigs. Others came from places where there were very few jobs of any kind, and that hasn't improved in a lot of those places. Most know that they are going to have a hard time making big bucks anyplace in the oil industry right now.

There is one Seminole tribe in Florida and there is a tribe called the Miccosukee that broke off from the Seminoles about 50 years ago. They both have multiple reservation locations in Florida. The Miccosukee did not object to the Seminoles nickname during the original policy announcement and haven't seemed to object to it since. I have never seen or heard of an official position issued by the Miccosukee. The other Seminole tribe is in Oklahoma. They are the largest of the tribes by far. They were forced out of Florida and resettled in Oklahoma. There were reports in 2005 that the Seminoles of Oklahoma were against the Florida State use of Seminoles as a nickname. It turns out that a single member of the tribal government made those claims. The Seminole tribe of Oklahoma did not have a position on the Florida State use of the Seminoles nickname at that time. In October 2013 the Seminoles of Oklahoma issued a resolution against the use of Native American sports nicknames in the public school system, colleges and universities, and by professional sports teams. However, since they are in Oklahoma that has no bearing on a school in Florida as far as the NCAA is concerned.

The US government does the vetting now and decides who gets into the country. LSS and other organizations around the country try to help them make the transition. LSS doesn't decide who comes in.