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And if I called you ignorant and stubborn because you're on the other side of the issue you're going to call me a bitch. Hmmm,.....

We see it and don't agree with it.

Hey now!!! Quit picking on the lefty's, I'm one. The only thing I fear is the country being run by people who would use a comedian's stand up act as a resource with which to run the country!!!!

You've avoided answering the question, DaveK. How will gun control benefit us?

The U.S. Treasury's research is tainted? And your 'non-research' posts are real because comedian said they were?

My point which you keep ignoring is that the number of violent crimes is not reduced by gun control. The fear of jail time or death does not deter the number of violent crimes. There are states with the 'three strikes your in for life' law, there has not been a reduction of violent crimes in those states. Nothing you have posted has 'gone over' my head. I just don't see the validity of what you post because the only statistics you cite are those uttered during someones comedy act.

Research, real valid research like the U.S. Justice Department's, has proven gun control does not reduce the incidence of violent crimes including murder in our country and others. The town in Georgia where everyone owns a gun has proven that owning a gun deters violent crime behavior. So, tell us, DaveK, how will gun control benefit us?

Yeah!! Just like the potential for a death sentence deters violent criminals. Oh, wait.....

Statistics (real research, not a stand up comedians act) proves that gun control does NOT reduce the incidence of murder. In fact, there are more murders in contries with gun control than there are in the United States. So, I guess gun control means you get murdered up close and personal unless you can run really, really fast.

....unless you're a comedian. Because we all know talking about gun control makes people laugh.

No one is avoiding the fact that if you don't have a gun, you can't shoot another person, DaveK. But, unlike you we know that gun control, as noted in the research, does NOT reduce murder/violence in countries that have gun control. Unlike you, we know, because the facts prove it, that not having a gun to shoot someone to death is not going to reduce the number of those who are murdered. The facts prove that!! If you don't have a gun people can and are stabbed, bluggeoned, choked, run over, throw off buildings, or murdered by other means in higher numbers than in the US in countries where there is gun control. There are more murders in countries where there is gun countrol than there are in the US.

I don't need to 'spin' facts, I cite them. But I notice you keep avoiding them. It appears that not everyone can run away as fast as you can.

As a comedian, did he cite his sources or did he pull the stats out of thin air? Those entertainers you point to believe that as entertainers they have the opportunity to 'enlighten' the masses just as your comedian did. No difference at all. The point of the murder is that it happened in a country with gun control. As the stats I posted earlier show, gun control does not reduce the number of murdered in countries with gun control. In fact there are MORE murders in countries with gun control than in the US. They just don't use guns to kill as often. Tap, tap, tap....

Except for Hicks the Comedian because while on stage he said what you wanted to hear. What have you to say about this murder in England

Ironic, isn't it.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/englan...ire/7430668.stm

Hey, he doesn't have to, he has a dead comedian on his side!!

Tap, tap, tap.....

So, the following facts did not come from a stand up comedian's night club routine but from legitimate research. Should I decide that I want to write a thesis on gun control whose stats will my thesis committee will look upon with favor. Hmmm, I wonder....... Does Bazooka Bubble gum still come with 'facts' wrapped around the gum?

Will it stop a polar bear?

He hasn't responded to my post citing legitmate research findings by a 'not comedian' either. He hasn't answered STS's question. Just latches onto something like THETRIOUXPER'S innocent remark and blows smoke... I guess he thinks that we won't notice that he hasn't answered anyone's legitimate questions. I'm willing to bet he takes this post as an opportunity to NOT answer the questions yet again!!

Tap, tap, tap..... tap dancing all over the facts, tap, tap, tap.....

Bump. The problem with many anti-anything supportors is they ALWAYS refuse to see facts from the other side. Guns don't kill people as the below stats show, people kill people. When people don't have guns to kill they're going to use whatever else is available. Unfortunately, they don't see 'not killing' as an option. http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summa...86-30790761_ITM

Foreigner - Feels Like the First Time 1977 (they're considerably older in this video! ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpeahgdzYp4