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so your answer is Jerry would jump Feeney because you made a meme on the internet?

I generally agree with this although I think he has regressed this year substantially over last year. Seems like he is playing with zero confidence in big games. On Saturday he was turtling up before the rush would even get home. Last year i felt even though he didnt always do well that he played with confidence and looked to run out of a bad situations.. Also, to be clear I have zero QB analysis skills other than what i have learned on the internet watching football while drinking.

Why would Danny jump over Feeney to put in a true Freshman? By the way the next two games are ones that I would like to see a lot of Feeney in, should be pretty straightforward games and I assume the offensive line has a little adjustment to make with a left handed QB. What I expect to happen though is Tommy looks decent in the next two games and so we dont actualy find anything out about Feeney.

I think many would argue with that line.. Tommy has not been good in big games this year. In the NDSU game all he had to do was hand the ball off which he did very well.. Against bad teams he has had very good statistics.

These kicker arguments always annoy me.. an extra point should not be an exciting play.. it’s not up for discussion.. if it’s not talent.. it’s scheme and they both suck. field goals less than 40 yds should be 90+%.. instead und has been scared to attempt them for the last 3+ yrs.. that’s not because 92 is lights out and automatic..

Not sticking up for prater.. but this is a terrible argument.. nfl uprights are like half the width and our xtra points are literally 19 yd fgs.. he has missed two of them this year.. get over it buddy.

I think he has already missed 2 xtra points this year.. so not money from about 20 yds..

We are missing a kicker that is as good as the local high schools.. I’m not sure if it’s talent or scheme.. GFC hit a game winner from 44 Friday night

Danny decides who the QB is and who plays…

This loss is 100% on the offense and special teams. Our inability to make what should be gimme field goals is totally depressing.. GFC kicker made a 44 yd fg on Friday.. watching Tommy turtle up and throw short passes is depressing. He is playing with zero confidence and has lost his mojo.. plus the turnovers.. It’s time for a change. not sure what happened to the OL between last week and this week. the defense wasn’t great but if the offense even gave us a chance it would have been enough to win. The highs of last week quickly turned into the lows.

I had this exact conversation with an NDSU friend last night. There really arent all that many truely hostile environments in the MVFC. Yah they beat us 5 times in a row but 4 of them were in the Fargodome which is a really significant home field advantage and they struggled 2 years ago in the alerus and what a result this year!! Biggest issue for the Bison now is Entz.. I would be willing to chip in for them to keep him around.

I agree 100%. That year is one of the biggest what-if years outside of the Richmond home playoff loss year. Almost beat the bison at home.. somehow lost extremely winnable games in heartbreaking fashion to USD, Southern Illinois and Missouri St on the road and finished the year nearly beating SDSU on the road. As I recall we had some significant kicking challenges.. injuries or something, and some really bad fumbles/TO's in the road games coupled with some very strange coaching decisions/weird punting decisions.

I agree with this 100%.. Tommy can be super shifty. That little TD run of his was great and he also had that QB Sack and escape and run that was fun to watch as well. I also dont think anyone would confuse Tommy with a confident running quarterback. Romfo looked much better running the ball than Tommy does and the two NDSU QB's are both much more confident runners than Tommy is. Also.. another nice thing to point out has been the improvement in the extra point game CJ has looked great out there. I still dont understand the gameplan of not kicking the ball into the endzone on kickoffs but Im also even more convinced that they are doing it on purpose versus lack of kicking ability which is a direct reflection on the special team coordinator. Western Illinois had about 2 people with some real talent/ability and we managed to kick it to their best player every time #1.

If this is the case (I dont think it is).. Danny shouldnt be called associate head coach or whatever his title is. My opinion is that Bubba lets Danny pick the starting QB and Danny (who gets to see them every day in practice.. in film etc) has decided Tommy is the best option right now. There is nothing in the last couple of years that would lead me to believe that Bubba isnt letting Danny run the offense the way he wants to and call all the plays that he wants. Personally I would like to see Feeney more.. Danny could have played him the entire 2nd half this last weekend and there wouldnt have been any whispering or controversy or anything. After Tommy took that big hit in the 2nd quarter and it took him a long time to get up.. I thought it was his last play of the day. Instead Danny decided to put him back out there and play Romfo more than he played Feeney. There is more going on here than you or I or anyone on this board knows but I really dont think its because Bubba has told Danny which QB he is required to play.

I think Tommy might be a little too aware of his completion percentage. Every so often he needs to throw the ball and let the WR make a play. Instead of making sure the WR is wide open before throwing. I know his stats were decent against Western Illinois.. but I was at the game and the majority of his passing yards had to be YAC... it was short pass.. short pass.. short pass.. On his longest pass of the day (in the box score) I think he threw it about 6 inches to Red. On a couple of his longer throws the WR fell down. I noticed we seemed to be slipping a bit on Saturday so it would be nice to get the footwear situation sorted out by Saturday. Tommy doesnt seem to like to run but he is elusive. There were a couple times in the last game that I thought he was going to be crushed and he somehow got out of it I thought Elidor and Nate D were supposed to help fix the explosiveness issue. I love watching Red out there. I cant wait to see Vuciri out there! Ive heard a couple on here refer to Tai as well. Whenever I get too negative about Tommy all I have to do is remember Ketteringham, which also might be an argument for starting a freshman. We would have certainly won more games if Tommy had started his first year instead sticking with Kett. Somehow I would like to see more of Feeney... but my assumption is that Danny gets to see them everyday and also really wants to win games.

Has there been anyone on this forum calling Tommy an elite FCS QB? In fact most have called out his lack of ability/accuracy in the deep ball and lately his decision making has been questionable which prior was one of his big strengths. There is a big difference between calling him an elite FCS QB and thinking that he has been generally solid for us and if you replaced him maybe we should at least give Feeney a shot over the true Freshman who we all hope will be very good at some point. I happen to trust Danny a bit more than somebody biking by memorial stadium every so often.

There were many things that bother me today.. Im really sick to my stomach over the team crapping the bed in another big game. It was really a terrible game and not even close. I even talked myself into thinking they could come back in the 2nd half.. the worsts.. Complete inability to stop the run.. I don’t get it. We have been in the MVC now for a few years and we still don’t seem to have adapted/recruited different on the d-line from the big sky. Its terrible. If we play like this, NDSU will drop the plow on us again in 2 weeks. I don’t get the beginning of the game. How could we not have been better prepared. After shitting the bed on defense, How could Danny not have dreamed up a better offensive series for the first series. Really.. his best idea was that stupid play with Q on down 2? I don’t think that play works in FM athletics.. Our scoring sequence in the 2nd quarter was almost wrecked by somehow trying to turn Isaiah Smith into a power runner.. cmon man! I don’t get the offensive series at the start of the 3rd quarter. Opportunity to get back into the game. Offense cant step up. Where is our vaunted offensive line. Where is the pride and tiredness of being kicked around Im ready to try a new QB.. I think Feeney deserves a chance. I still think all of the Kaminski talk is delusional. Tommy would be a decent QB if we had a great defense. Since we don’t.. we need a more dynamic QB. Tommy has played 2 games in a row against top teams and has played very poorly.. its time to try something new. I still believe if Tommy had played our last year of Ketteringham we would have been a better team. SDSU was just all around better than us.. bigger.. faster.. more athletic.. better coached. I think Ill see Isaiah Davis in my dreams tnight running through holes in the UND line that even an old guy like me could wander through. I was hopeful that we would play better than we did on defense and disappointed that we didnt.. I was shocked that our offense was so inept.

At the risk of bringing in a semi-optimistic take. We get the ball to start the 2nd half. On last possession (not counting the possession right before the half) we moved the ball well and scored.. The defense stabilized in the 2nd quarter.. at least compared to the first quarter we made an extra point Lets score to start the 2nd half and lets see the defense actually get a stop and then lets have a game..

new kicker today? and the extra point looked easy. ok.. lets have the defense show up now!

Obviously. Most coaches would be starting Jerry Kaminski instead of having him #4 on the depth chart. So when you say most.. are those the coaches that are above or below us in the rankings this year? What seems to get lost in all of these comments is the general fact that UND is currently ranked 11th or 12th, depending on what poll you decide to follow, in the nation. We had a very reasonable chance to win our last game against a decent Boise State team and I expect us to have a chance to win against the #1 team in the nation on the road in what will likely be a tougher game than the Boise State game. Not too bad for a coaching staff that cant recruit and also cant figure out which true freshman to start. Probably what annoys me the most is you kissing some random SDSU fans butt and going out of your way to say how big of a disappointment Tommy is when that person actually had the nerve to say Tommy is pretty good.. Hope you are wearing your Jackrabbit colors this weekend. I am really excited about the game/opportunity this weekend SDSU is #1 for a reason. It will be a very tough game for us.

So what is the slant of this enlightening take? I thought the previous takes were that Bubba and Company cant recruit good talent. Now the take is that our backups & freshmen are so good they should displace all of our starters at all skill positions but our coaches are just too dumb to see it every day in practice? Any starters we should keep? Hopefully at least the offensive line . SMH

sounds like he got a little banged up in the UNA game. I believe he was dressed on the sidelines for Boise but did not play.

Ok.. Ive marinated in the despair of the Boise game for long enough. I still think this team has potential to make some noise. I think we bounce back and Im excited to see how the crew responds to an obviously disappointing loss in another tough environment. I wont rehash the kicking game challenges. Im excited to see our running backs continue to improve. The return of Skokna has brought some real excitement to that group, Ziebarth has done very well and I hope that Isaiah is recovering nicely on the bye week. In addition to the passing game I really hope Danny takes what is given to him and pounds that rock! Our o-line and RB's can get the job done.

Other than that.. how was the play Mrs Lincoln? i guesss u are generally correct.. kickoffs were mostly good.. I recall one pretty mediocre punt but I think most of the other ones were good.

I disagree with this statement.. I think there are at least 4 that would win (NDSU, SDSU, MSU, Sac State) and another 5+ that "could" win.. Boise was very beatable yesterday. I aso dont understand the statement of UND being where they or us want them to be. They certainly arent where I want them to be.. and Im reasonably confident that they arent where most of us want them to be including Bubba. I would have been much happier this morning if our losing effort didnt include the special teams struggles and the turnovers. My hope is that these issues are all fixable issues (botched snaps / missed xtra points / turnovers), and that this was the teams bad game on the road this year. Tommy and the offense are way better than they showed yesterday.. the defense looks like its continuing to improve and its time to have a great game down at SDSU.