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Yes i would like to know the reason we have so little student fans at the basketball games today has college changed that much over years. When i was in college we looked forward to things to go to at college in middle of winter to get out of dorms or apartments and going to college game was free for college student. Usually there was chance to meet friends or acquaintances and now today you can get a beer if you can afford it. Usually we went as group to game as a social outing and following the game went somewhere else to socialize. Without the football team there aren't that many college students at the game considering university has 12000 students even if 10% showed up the betty with regular crowd would be close to full. Is it lack of university not promoting the games or something else in not bringing out a crowd to the Betty like parking, transportation, scheduling, or the cost to go to the game i am just asking because we should have much better attendance than we have been.

Western Illinois just missed beating KC it would have put us into third place tie with them. Looks like to have third place we will need to beat them at KC.

This was like watching NFL game where the team goes in prevent defense and then the team drives up field and scores easily to beat your team. Soon as Dosch said they needed to work the clock on possessions i had this bad feeling because that was communicated to the team from Sather and we went from attacking the basket to playing the clock. With this team when things are going right don't change how they are playing especially when were playing good basketball. This change brought back negative thoughts and effected their confidence and yes it may be smart play to control the time but not with this team they are terribly inexperienced and we just need to get couple of wins. Sometimes you can over coach a team and i thought tonight it wasn't time to teach this team to control the ball and run the clock out. What you didn't need was to give other team chance to start coming back on them and that is exactly what happened. This is first time i think Sather got out coached with x and o's and reason is this team is so young now on the floor and they have zero confidence in themselves because all season they have played hard but always come up short and he let that creep into their play. I am afraid the season is pretty much over and we will not be going to Sioux Falls next month. We will need to win 4 out 7 games and that is providing that Ohama doesn't win anymore games to end of the season and only positive we do play at home most of the games but for team that hasn't won since December i think its pretty much expecting miracle.

I did a look up Jaclyn Jarnot and she was having pretty good year with West Florida University she has been averaging 16.5 points a game and 12.5 rebounds a game. I think change of schools would be good for her and also playing down division hasn't hurt her statistics either. We could have used girl of her size this year to help match up with South Dakota schools. We had talent on the team last year but it just didn't play very well together and i also didn't fit well with what Bernhard was trying to get them to play. Second we had so many injuries and sicknesses last year the team could never gell and find their rolls as players. I expect next year we should have more options to match up with teams like South Dakota state but again its going to take time to figure out where everyone roles and what they are capable of. I too looked for information on Beal girl but didn't find any for this year other than she is not playing Detroit Edison academy public school but is now playing at Hamtramck public school a division I school instead of Division II school in Michigan. This would be same level Roach girl is playing at in Michigan for Hartland. Roach girl looks to having good year and was named player of week for their region. I think it will be exciting year next year and it will be fun to see how much we can continue improve.

We were in this game today until South Dakota was carried by Sjerven to get this win over us. We played pretty good defense on Lamb and Korngable they got their points but were close to season league averages. The defense we played on Sjerven wasn't terrible but she really stepped up hit the outside shot and probably if you had scouted her was where you wanted her to be shooting from. The minutes she was out the game South Dakota had hard time matching up to UND. This is very good starting 5 for South Dakota but they are vulnerable when they have to go deeper especially if they have to sit one of the three 5 year seniors. This is South Dakota year to make run in NCAA tournament and I believe they would be very good representative for the conference. I just think looking at two South Dakota schools right now i kinda believe Jacks can beat Coyotes because they are much deeper and they shooting at level even South Dakota will have hard time defending. I also got to believe neither one of these teams would want to have to face UND again this year even they know can beat them because were improving and on given night anything can happen and it always hard to beat a team three times in season. The future looks bright for Und next year if this team continues to improve and with good young talent coming and developing talent on the team i see we will be able to play with South Dakota. South Dakota State will continue to be tough with most of their team returning next year but i think we will be close to catching them especially with new talent coming in. The big question can we keep any of our players with extra years eligibility on the team in next few years.

I watched some of tonights game and i was wondering what SDSU would look like if they would have lost type of talent we lost in the past year. We lost Rebraca one top players in the Summit, Inhenaco the top rookie for the Summit last year, Simms juco player that could play both guard and need be front line, Suecker one big outside wing players that could score from outside or could do so on inside, and we have had several other players hurt this year. That is four starters off this team and some of the depth to this team. Then i was looking were getting pretty good play out some new players one with one year of jucco experience, and two first year freshmen and we have been close to winning some of these games. I don't think any team in the Summit could loose four starters off a team and even think about being in consideration contending for the Summit. The only one that would have chance would be South Dakota State the deepest team in the conference. Then you add in we have had almost two years of covid and new coach moving up a division it has been almost recipe for total disaster. The big question going forth is can we rebuild a team by starting with new young players and building up a team that can win conference championship or is that not possible if players want to go to transfer portal and we become farm team for more successful college programs. I hope that is not the case or else we will be left with constant new team every year and hard pressed to find top talent that want to come here and play. I am worried about this, and we may be on the wrong side of this in the future. The two South Dakota schools have in place good programs, so they have winning tradition so it easier for them to keep players on long term. Also the way Summit conference tournament is always played close to them giving basically home court advantage and big crowds helps their programs in retaining players and recruiting players. NDSU also has established program and good tradition, so they have advantage in keeping their talent and finally last is ORU where basketball is there main sport and they come from area rich in talent. But getting back to Sather i believe he can coach the x and o's and i think he has shown he can recruit good young talent i look at last two years in Inhenaco and Bruns they have been some best new talent in the Summit. The elephant in the room is can we keep this talent and add to it each year and if that is the case he will be successful coach in the Summit. Now we as fans have to have patience to let him build the program and winner and most people think it can be done over night and that is not the case. I look at Denver how many coaches have they gone through in past few years trying to get to a winner.

I think SDSU stuck a stake in our heart in beginning of the third quarter and game was over. I wish Bernhard would have put in the two freshman in the end of third and beginning of the fourth quarter to see how they would have matched up against South Dakota. Anderson and Mccarthy would have matched up in size and would have been quicker covering the perimeter. Also they would have gotten little playing time against South Dakota this year. I would expect them to get beat but it would be learning experience for them as well as us to see what it will take to match up with SDSU. Leet could play her soft outer perimeter defense tonight and still be effective but Lane trying to cover SDSU other big girls especially Selland was terrible mismatch for us. This is why i would have liked to see these other girls play a little because if were going to play with them i think its going to take us going 9 deep on the bench. The game pretty much ended when Kacie wasn't hitting anything and we have to give credit to SDSU i think they had her rushing her shot some because she didn't want it blocked and have turn over. I expect Kacie the next time they play will have adjusted and her offense will be there. Aaron Johnson likes to coach where he works on opposing teams minds and tonight he was putting that thought into our team with way he got his team come out and just bury us right away after the half and it worked because it just looked like we gave up then. The positive is this team was getting shots it wanted but we got lesson on how we played defense. The other down fall tonight was we need to work on our rebounding as a team concept especially when were playing defense we forgot to box out when we got beat on defense. SDSU is now shooting lights out but it would be interesting to see when they are not hitting 60% from 3 land how well they look offensively. I know they are good team but when your getting that kind of shooting from 5 players its almost impossible to shut down a team. It will be interesting to see what happens at tournament time in the past they have had one those games where they couldn't find there shooting.

You would think in these last four games just once we could come out on top. If you review the box scores essentially numbers come about even in most categories but were short on one thing and we loose by few points. This game came down to shooting percentage we shot 3% less than they did or two buckets (so if we hit one more two and one three would have tied the game), The other area was our turnovers where we spotted them 10 extra points but they we made most of that back with 9 extra free throws but with that if we would held turnovers down or shot couple percentage better we could have won the game. The effort is there but we just don't have that extra athleticism to get us over the hump. The good part is that were not getting blown out of the games but end record won't reflect that in the standings.

I was looking other night at coaching salaries i see that Craig Bohl was paid over 1.5 million dollars but when Vigen was his assistant coach he was paid $300,000. dollars way more than Bubba is making as head coach. He then went to Montana State where his contract there with incentives this hear will pay him way over the $300,000. so were definitely behind in pay structure. If were behind on pay structure i betting were way behind on lot of other things as well that makes difference in recruiting players but things like that are difference when we have been close to beating upper tier teams.

It would be nice to get more people out to the games especially with the effort girls have been putting forth. The difference this year i believe is they had normal off year, they have Borowicz and Lane healthy, Leet is having good year, and the additions of Daninger, Davis, and Hoskins have all contributed to the team. The final thing is they are playing as team and at both ends of the court now there playing defense and their offense has improved. I also see it in coaching of these girls and look how even the assistants are involved in the games now something we didn't see as much last year. We have three really difficult games still coming with KC and next weeks rematches with South Dakota schools. This is still fun because we have come long way since last year and were still improving as team.

The move to FBS level and also moving all your sports to next level i have hard time seeing where the benefit is for NDSU especially how most G5 conferences are half way across the nation for possible fits for NDSU. There is probably enough revenue to fund the football program and first few years there would be enough fan interest of playing at this different level. I still see problem in generating additional revenue to fund all other sports NDSU has now because the costs will go up for these sports as well when you jump a level and additional travel costs. Other costs is when jumping a level will be coaching costs, costs of bringing in teams for home games, and also additional overhead costs to administer these additional staffs and fund raising to keep athletic department funded. (Look what Craig Bohl is getting for salary at Wyoming as head coach is 1 million more than you are paying now.) I just think the fan support you have had from region will drop because reason for this growth in fan interest has been your playing for national championship. The casual fan can Identify with this and also the playoff system where you have had couple of home games that local television coverage across the whole state. Then add in championship game in Texas right after first of year it has become mini vacation to get away from the cold weather and the holidays were over. Now we get to small g5 conference and if you win it have record that is good enough to be invited to bowl game that will be played week before Christmas or couple of days after Christmas which could be played on Thursday, Friday, Monday, or Tuesday the number of fans going to the game is going to be diminished especially around Christmas. Also number people able to watch the game will be less because people will be working and season is busy with other activities. I guess as North Dakotan and specially non Bison fan i am not going to go out my way for bowl game where before i have watched because they represented state and region when they were playing in Frisco. I may be wrong but some where in my gut if this doesn't work out as tax payer of North Dakota i may have to come in cover the short fall or at least finance them until they can restructure athletic department. The bottom line I have number other reason but this getting too long already. I just think for the state, region, and all the colleges when we have all major universities in same conference in Dakota's and surrounding universities brings most fan interest for college sports. I have long ago realized we are not populated enough and will never have resources to compete in P5 conference and only way it will work if most universities want to play up level to g5 we will need to form our own conference to do so.

Why would you say that? I have to believe she has to like the position she is on this team as leader and style of play they are playing suits her game. Then add in there beginning to win. I know there was something happen in her not starting but i would find that hard to believe she would want to transfer only that. I may be wrong on this but going else where i would believe be bad move on her part and i think she has opportunity to play in big dance before her career is over here at North Dakota.

I too was skeptical of Bernhard in that i thought she had the ability but i didn't think she had enough head coaching experience but she has proven me wrong which i very happy that i was. The program is headed in right direction and if recruits that she has recruited live up to expectations UND could become a factor in next year so of the conference. South Dakota team with 3 five year players returning this year and their history of being good team i believe will be nearly impossible to upset this year. South Dakota state is also very good team year but i do feel given right night we could be able to beat them. Their team has very deep line up but difference this year is Selland is playing hurt and is not the player she was last year. The rest teams now in Summit conference i believe if we play our game we can defeat. This is quite turn around from last year where we struggled to just win a game or two in the Summit.

I stated it before only logical fit for FBS conference would be if Montana, Montana State, North Dakota State, Und, SDSU, USD, Northern Iowa, Idaho state, Eastern Washington, Idaho, and utah and Northern Colorado formed a conference. Even with the names listed above i don't know how many would want to move up but this would have foot print that would make sense it would limit distant travel and if enough would join you could have east/west spliit in the conference to also limit travel and costs . If it was marketed right getting right media company that wanted to provide sports tv to the states in this conference there could be some television money. Also most national markets wouldn't want to regionalize a market to small market states that this conference would be in so if was done right conference and tv provider would need to be almost partners in developing and marketing this conference to this region of the country. The big time p5 schools are basically doing this now national level and i don't see their numbers increasing because adding more schools just dilutes amount of money being shared when adding more schools. If anything we could see a drop in p5 schools because they don't improve the revenue shared to pot because of tv viewership and other media revenue they can generate for other p5 schools. This sounds like were getting away from basic of college sports but this has been happening in last 20 years and unless their is political change i just see this continuing down this path. We have done this on national scale and next step is for local media company working with smaller college conferences selling this on regional basis as subscription to watch their favorite teams. But until this happens i don't see where NDSU or most of FCS schools and small mid major schools will be moving even to G5 conference because most of these conferences are near what they want for membership. These changes could happen quite quickly or may never happen depending how much change smaller division I schools are willing to accept and if there are smaller local media companies willing to grow and put media business company together sell conference on regional basis. I think this may happen but until somebody does it and makes it successful it won't become the thing to do.

We only loose Leet for next year and Lane returns next year. I hope that Vanderwal can replace Leet next year but we won't know until then with them trying to redshirt her this year. They have been playing 8 girls lately with varying degree of times depending on teams they are playing and foul trouble they have been in. Today they played percentages by slowing down the possessions in the fourth quarter but it also got them out their rhythm offensively and depleted their lead. It worked but i have seen where this can lead to disaster and it takes very good teams to execute this style of play. If they can get sweep next weekend UND going through first half of conference season would have secured the third place in conference standings.

The numbers spent by each of schools above may not be totally accurate but i do find it interesting the schools that were at the top of list were playing for national championship. The UND Fan above statements were very interesting and enlightening about fund raising and level of support for the schools. I do have one question and that is NDSU does go to FBS what changes will it mean for the structure of their other sports because of title 9. When they go to FBS the number of scholarships i believe will go up but how will they account for this to be in compliance with Title 9. I know not very much of fund raising but in past UND had national scope of past graduates and has that well dried up or have they lost much of that to name controversies over the last 10 to 15 years. I experienced the focus that large universities put on fund raising when one my children graduated from Iowa State from doctor programs and at graduation they had speaker durning ceremonies talk on giving to the university. Which I would say was little too pushy in my estimation but i may be behind the times. But getting back NDSU they may have money to move up and may be popular in Fargo but how does that play out to rest of the state for funding their institution and being part of the upper great plains. I am old school so i may be way out of touch but i think these are important things and higher education system needs to remember its just not city your in but whole state and region these institutions are part of.

With the injuries this team like the paper said just has to grind we don't have much in personnel to change our look much. Suecker is help but still playing hurt and you can tell it in his play. The good part is Bruns, Norman, T, and Mathews are developing much faster because of the playing time. It would be nice if they could come up with win but they nearly need to play perfect game they have so little margin to get a win with. You can see the frustration in Sather when he is coaching but i got to feel he got to be pleased with effort these players are putting forth. I hope we can make it through rest of the season without any further injuries but with effort these players are putting forth i could see injury happening.

I see Daninger is senior but she has year of eligibility left according to Midco half time show so i thought she was here for another year. That is where i was wondering how many openings they have for next year. I guess Orth could have year left of eligibility left with last years giving additional year of eligibility.

I have lost track here but how many commits do we have for next year and how many openings. I thought we have signed several people point guard from michigan, the four star recruit from Michigan, and one girl from Minnesota. But i may be wrong on these and i thought we would have only 3 to 4 openings in scholarships. Maybe there others that may not be returning next year i am not aware of. I would appreciate somebody putting this all together where we stand on signings and scholarships available.

I would like for someone to explain to me how that improves them Nationally or even locally for fan following or in the world of the media. Most people understand if they go to FBS it will be to one smaller FBS conferences and if you win the conference it will be for some lesser December bowl game played in afternoon on maybe weekday with limited tv exposurer. Second if they have to move all their sports to this new conference they will find they will have tremendous costs of travel and these sports will loose their traditional rivaleries again eroding the fan bases. Then you add in the recruiting where number of players if they are traveling farther it makes it more difficult for parents and family to watch these athletes. These are some of difficulties i see with move to FBS but i can see it happening because there is lot ego with NDSU and Fargo but until the reality of this move happens all they can see is the glory of playing FBS football. The only way this would make since would be if South Dakota schools, UND, and Montana Schools couple other FCS school would all move up and form new conference at the FBS level.

I think they did replace Tyree with Bruns just slightly different players both guards and both have been effective as Freshman. What they didn't replace was Rebraca and I don't think you could have but I think they should have looked for one more experienced big man instead of settling on Howard who didn't fit and finally left the team. Also we haven't seen what Levias will bring to the team I have feeling he would have brought some things that Tyree brought to the team. To also be fair not many teams can absorb loss of three top seven players and then have scholarship player quit team that represents 30% of the roster and in this case has been the top of the roster. The only team that could weather that now in this conference is South Dakota State and they would be still hurt by this kind of loss.

I thought this was possible game for us to win especially at home. I only got to see most of last half of basketball. I find no fault with effort with this team but lack of athleticism compared to our other opponents is easily seen watching the game. If this team shoots basketball at 42% for the game and makes its free throws this game should have been 10 point victory. Instead we loose by 7 points and looking at rest of league i don't see one team where i feel were better them and would be favored to win the game with personnel we have on the court right now. This does not mean we can't come up with couple of victories in conference season but loosing tonight was one of the victories i thought we might have playing at home. Sueker is not even close to 100% you could see it with him coming off court in second have we was limping walking to the bench. When will Nero return haven't heard any time line on him yet and are they just going to redshirt Levias for rest of the season since were 2/3 through the season. I see McGrath must be sick or hurt not on the bench. This all adds up to pretty thin and young lineup for the rest of the season. The positive to this season is Bruns, Mathews, Tsartsidze, and Grant are getting playing time which should help them in future years getting experience playing quality minutes. I think this season is now all about getting ourselves ready for next season and hope with new additions next year help us make a step forward to competing in this conference. I know this very negative assessment but i just don't see us having much of chance of anything with remainder of the season. Were going to be at best 7 seed and lucky to be 8 seed which we more than likely to meet South Dakota State team that is so talent and deep we would have hard time winning against their second 5 let alone their first 5. This is not going to be quick rebuild now this is going to take couple of years developing the players and adding young talent a lot of people here on this board are really going to be squawking about this but no matter what direction we go its going to take time especially if going to go with young players. We are already committed to this when looking at roster number of young players on the roster and who are recruited for next year. Its very rare to win conferences with young players it takes experienced leadership to win and only time will take care of this.

I guess i look at from different view with most of the losses were lost by touchdown or less and most of these losses could have been a win on one or two key plays going our way so we very close to having very special year. Also all these losses were against playoff teams and FBS school that had very successful season. The difference is team never got confidence or ability to make key plays to start winning these games against quality opponent. The my main reason for this is skilled position players on the team were young and this only comes with more experience and learning from these losses. yes i heard all other reasons on this board but still comes down to players making plays on the field in crunch time and this year it sure didn't happen.

This past weekend the two South Dakota Schools have been making a statement to rest of the Summit league in women's basketball which most observers already knew is they are different level than other teams in the Summit. This past year with granting of extra eligibility for last year just about guaranteed these two schools another year of dominance in the Summit conference. South Dakota got return of their three stars of Sjerven, Lamb and Korngable for fifth year and with backed up talent they were set to have another good year and it sure showed against our girls this week. Then we come to South Dakota State they only have one returning 5 year player Irwin very good player giving them depth while their major star recovered from season ending injury last year. The thing with South Dakota State is they have number seniors or i should say seniors that gave them extra year of eligibility coming next year or the year after. Also adding that South Dakota State has recruited number of very good young talent that are fighting for playing time wonderful position to be in with small mid major program. This was the position that UND and North Dakota State used to be in schools that had tradition of winning and where top athletes wanted to come and play on winning teams. Both programs are in process of rebuilding and are different phases of that process but something is missing we don't seem to have interest of fans or community to get back there and seems we are not promoted even by schools themselves like back then. In the past athletic departments and community would have put urgency to getting the program tops in the conferences they were in but now i don't see that now were one sport schools and that is where media is trained on and also the schools. I have question for all to ponder we have example of similar situation in Nebraska what happens if these sports fall on tough times like it has in Nebraska their recognition and following falls on hard times. What effect does this have on schools and communities. I can hear all sorts of that is not going to happen but in past when we had Tom Clifford leading the university, he wanted us to be winners in anything we did and he work hard to make that happen. I have nothing against new president in fact i think he has gotten off to good start but i do have questions about AD what his focus is on for UND athletics. I started about dominance of South Dakota schools but i leaked into my frustration about wanting UND to be best and i thought we were getting there back there in 2016 and 2017 when we started to have you conference champions in basketball for women's and men's, volleyball, and even with the football and hockey program was also at the top. Then we got into cutting sports and look where we are now with most of these programs not desirable position to be in and i have to believe most people want this for UND.

Our offense looks terrible to many people standing and then we have no outside game. South Dakota State looks like current type of modern offense being played with go inside and then kick back outside for the three and were playing old school basketball just pound it inside and look at the numbers it should have been close game. The difference is they shot 9 more threes and and made seven more three throws so we loose by 18 with us giving up one more bucket on turnover. We shot today 1 for 11 today for three's and this modern day basketball you have to have people hit the three Manson shot the most today shooting 0-6 and only one hitting three point shot was Daninger and Borowicz never attempted 3 point shot. Also we are showing short bench where our front line people are playing tired and it showed on the court today and South Dakota State went at least nine deep today. I think when we fall behind 20 points in games like today we need to start playing some our freshman it may even we loose by 40 points but there is no way were going to build this team without them getting more playing time. We can't expect to compete with short bench so we might as well start looking at building this team for next year. Also Borowicz must be in real dog house with her not starting both games this weekend for both halves. I would like to hear some reply from Bernhard on the status of the team and i see that Davis did dress for the game but were still missing several players.