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If UND finishes with the same record as ORU, they will lose the tie-breaker since ORU will have a better record against Omaha. http://www.thesummitleague.org/tournaments/ten/2017-18/tiebreakers

I'm pretty sure most of the players on South/Shanley are from Shanley.

I guess there's always the potential, but do you honestly believe next year this team will be worse offensively than this year?

This is where this team is tricky, honestly, I think they bring it every night (Canisius included). The better question is will the puck go in the net.

I know I'm in the minority, but I personally really like the schedule. I'm looking at this strictly from wins / losses aspect. There's less risk playing bad teams at home. A sweep against a bad team is better than a split against a good team.

Agree and agree. That's also my #1 issue with this Junior class, it doesn't make any sense and this isn't a hindsight is 20/20 deal either. You say guys like Johnson (I know was brought in as a D-man) and Yon weren't brought into to be finishers and top end guys, agreed, but the same can be said for Bowen and Smith. Peski has turned out ok, but he was unheralded as well. You had this giant class and there were 3 guys that were brought in (or showed they were anything more) than role players, that's insane. Side note: I can answer my own question, the guys they shouldn't have brought in were all local.

Two years. After next year will be the biggest addition by subtraction this program might ever see.

Minnesota State / Western Michigan / Duluth / St. Cloud Of those four that weren't competitive, UND also badly outplayed WMU the night before -- split at home against Duluth and blew out St. Cloud the following night. I would say @ Duluth was the only series this year that I would put into the "troubling" category. That changed when they played at the Ralph.

Agreed, there's so many different variables when evaluating a class. One thing I really like about next years recruiting class is they mostly fall into what I really feel is the sweet spot. Those are the 2nd / 3rd / 4th rounders, who should be three year type guys. The four true freshman forwards will fall into that spot.

I'm in the boat that they aren't that far off, why do I say this? The Canisius weekend pretty much sunk their season and everyone knew that after it happened. I know everyone hates the what would have happened game, but they'd be sitting in 12th currently if they swept, 17th with a split (but in a virtual tie for 15th). That's with everything else staying the same. Even with those results they are 18th, with what is the lowest output from forwards most of us can ever remember and a historically bad power play. I believe this team has currently has and will have for years a defensive core / goaltending that is Frozen Four caliber. You bring in a freshman class that is extremely highly rated, you'll have four forwards that will all be drafted before the second highest currently on the team next year (Weatherby). That's the shot in the arm this team needs, an influx of forward talent. There is still some pieces on this team that have pretty high ceilings (Mismash / Adams) or guys that are sort of producing currently in Kawaguchi. A productive 3rd line (Smith / Senden / Hain). Quick summary, they have 2 of 4 "groups" that are Frozen Four caliber currently, I think it's likely next year they improve scoring by a goal per game. That will put them back in the mix. They won't miss the NCAAs next year.

Currently 18th with a Pairwise RPI of .5320, teams within .01 points -- 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21. I use the .01, because based on all results, on any given weekend, that's most likely the highest / lowest you can go. You never know and things can change quickly week to week, but it really is looking like one of two things needs to happen. 1. Sweep the next two weekends (IF that happens), you just have to win your 1st round, can go three games -- then reevaluate, maybe only need to win 1 of 2 in St. Paul 2. Any loss over the next two weekends, most likely means needing to win the NCHC Tourney

Question, is a line of Johnson / Yon / Anyone the worst line in college hockey? (D3 included)

No, I said only UND can get swept against a team with less talent (see Canisius), UND will never be able to complete that task against a more talented team (see Duluth / SCSU).

Absolutely, it’s so frustrating knowing they had NO chance of winning tonight. Zero. Just like last Saturday. Only UND can get swept against teams that have less talent, not the other way around. Berry two years in a row after not missing for 15 straight! Love it!

My positive outtake is I genuinely believe they aren’t far off from being a very good team, also believe they’ll be at that point next year. Negative, the last two years they’ve found ways to screw it up. Berry has underachieved the last 3 years, why would next year be different?

Giving this team credit, they find unique ways to lose, you don’t often see a team take two 5 on 3s! Thanks Rhett!

Agree on Wolff, hope him nothing but the worst

I just don’t understand how a Senior captain plays like he did tonight. This team would be better off if 22 signed last year. Kudos though to 28 for not only look like you care, but not hand the game to Duluth like your roommate.

If you had one guarantee of the year, it was Duluth tonight. Next two weekends don’t matter, its win the NCHC tourney or Berry misses two in a row.

I wish I was surprised, I’m speechless, I can’t believe they gave up two 5 on 3s. Do they realize the position they are in?

Until next year! Honestly, there will never be a bigger weight lifted than when this Junior class graduates.

It’s hard to put into words how much I hate that 5 & 7 actually play at UND.

I can see both sides,: Do I think it's premature to fire the coach? Yes. Do I think missing the tournament two years in a row is acceptable? No. Do I believe they've fallen as far as some want to believe? No Do I believe they will be back next year? Yes What my problem is currently is nobody is asking the tough questions and putting any pressure on this coaching staff. The local media just makes excuses for why things are happening. The latest "look where Michigan, Boston and Minnesota" spin really pissed me off. Ultimately, I fell there's no accountability being taken by the coaching staff and there's nobody that will but pressure on them.

The combination of (1) Donovan going to Wisconsin (I would have understood wanting to stay home (2) Picking up another '19 recruit (MJHL) has got me really, really frustrated. I was always in the camp (still would be) that if they could only bring 4, they are bringing in the correct 4, so I wasn't as upset as some were originally. Now I am.