The Sicatoka

From the Fox News story: Two!?!?! Oh my. MafiaMan: You missed "Vandals", the Germanic tribe that sacked Rome in 455 AD and now the mascot of Idaho.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166057,00.html

That pretty-much sums 'er up. PS - I feel sorry for Hank Brown having to clean up the Ward Churchill mess.

My hope is that if the Sioux moniker goes American Indian students will be just as invisible as every other subcategory of student on campus, for example those with Nicaraguan or Norwegian or whatever heritage. They'll be equal. Of course, being equal is a two-way street. You may gain; you may lose.

From the Dan Wetzel link above:

Dakota is a tribal name. Verbotten. And if you're going with that type of logo, why not ....

EdtheFred: Then why not show the numbers. Where are they? I won't disagree that new revenues are coming in, but are they covering the new expenses? The DII Study is strong evidence that the answer is most likely "no". Show the numbers. Prove everyone wrong.

Got mine yesterday.

There I agree. And they could stop marketing "H-Sioux-O" and start selling "mni" (pronounced like the first part of that state to the east) or more specifically, "wiwila mni", spring water. Some education, something they should be promoting to stay in accord with Spirit Lake Nation, on the Siouxan language would be a good thing.

And FSU has a mascot (Chief Osceola and Renegade): A potential big stumbling-block for them on the way to an exemption.

A person, college student or not, would still have to - live somewhere and eat something (room and board) - fulfill other human needs, like clothing, to exist (personal expenses). Cut those two basic realities of human existance out of that list, because they are part of life no matter where you are, and what's left is $700 of books and supplies.

Upon further review, and after listening to Dr. Kupchella on ESPN Radio, the second selection option is no longer available. "North Dakota Playoff Jersey" is disqualified. Why? Because "Dakota" is an American Indian tribe and those names are banned from NCAA tournament play jerseys. I guess we just go with "Playoff Jersey". I've eliminated "North" because someone from Canada could be offended that we are calling ourselves "North".

I just listened to Dr. Kupchella's interview on ESPN Game Night. He said that one Sioux nation in ND (I'm assuming Standing Rock) has asked UND to stop. He said the other (again, assuming Spirit Lake) has told UND if it uses the name it should be using it to educate people about and to raise understanding of the American Indians (and with a "respectfully in usage" also I'm sure). That doesn't seem to align with what Mr. Kracker has been telling us. Of course, none of that matters because the Florida Seminole Nations' wishes regarding Florida State matter not to the NCAA thus none of this matters either.

The Florida Seminole Nation supports FSU. The Seminoles in Oklahoma assumably do not. So there can be disagreements amongst American Indians on this matter, even within nations. Which means we need to listen to and for Sioux voices that may not agree with yours, for example the Oceti Sakowin Hunkpapa Elders, as well as yours, and sort for the truth from there.

Notre Dame, French for "Our Lady", wasn't founded by the Irish. Vandals were the Germanic tribe that sacked Rome in 455 AD. Aren't religions as deserving of protection as races? And you made my point about Aztecs. All four names (Irish, Vandals, Quakers, Aztecs) are unaffected by the NCAA's recent stance.

I believe we looked at those numbers and saw that American Indians got a larger proportion of those monies than their fraction of campus population would warrant. What I don't understand is this: The Florida Seminole ("Unconquered") Nation is fighting to support FSU. Have they "sold out"? If so, isn't that their right?

"Vikings"? What about Irish, and Vandals, and Quakers, and Aztecs.

Weren't you pontificating about UND not spending enough on Indian programs recently? The almighty dollar, eh?

If you are so sure this NCAA action will finally garner "victory" (and I use that term in the hollowest, weakest possible manner) why waste your time or efforts. Or are you not sure. And of course you realize your site will be worthless, a net fiscal worth of $0, on the open market once you have achieved this "victory" and the Sioux are extinct from the realm of the collegiate. More efforts with no tangible benefits. Must be frustrating.

Well, have at it.

Peter Harris Research Group and Annenberg Polling (U of Pennsylvania, an NCAA member) both have done scientifically respected surveys each with independent but similar findings. Thus comes the choice: Mock the research or mock Native Americans themselves for their perceived unenlightenment.

There is no point to pondering (possible, if necessary) replacement names until the NCAA defines the "rules of engagement". Until rules as to what is and "is not" acceptable are in place don't waste your time. PS - "Sundogs" is the name normally proposed by the folks that want the "Sioux" name gone. That alone disqualifies it from consideration.

Nine womens hockey scholarships at $10,000 to $12,000 per. That ain't $713,000 of state appropriated funds. And it's not $996,000 of institutional support (those are funds completely at NDSU's control) either, like shows up in NDSU's FY02 budget (per CSL report). As a matter of fact, UND's FY04 (projected revenues) budget showed $0 of institutional support and $0 of appropriated funds (and wouldn't state appropriated funds show up as such in there?). It's been 30+ days since the end of FY 05 for athletics at UND and NDSU. Where are the numbers? I'd like to see, in NDSU's case, if Mr. Inniger raised the last $600,000 the Fargo Forum said he was short as of April 17.