beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 If some of these top draft picks go to college, UND should be able to land one of them. If most of them do not come to college, UND will be fine because they have already added two elite CHL players. At this point, I do not think that more than a couple of first round picks from this year will come over. All it takes is for Bryn to get one yes and that is what I am optimistic about. We should see a bat signal soon. It is only a matter of time. I did scroll through Bryns instagram following the other day and he did follow some 2023 and 2024 draft picks playing in Europe. That is something to watch but I believe most of those leagues in Europe are considered pro. 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 20 hours ago, tnt said: That is the other side of this — the communication with these guys. I know some thought Schultz might bolt somewhere else to start college sooner. I agree, a lot of guys would be better off with the slow development model, but we have seen not everybody and their advisors can be objective enough to see that as the best path forward. Who knows if Cole Spicer’s trajectory would be different if he had played the slow development path. Hopefully the coaches and advisors can communicate the best interests to the players and have them buy in. I’m next to certain the plan for Schultz was to always go back and play another year of juniors. If he’s going to play awhile it will because of his O game. Anyone with his best interests in mind would push that. His year last season was very up and down. Nice player, but he definitely needs one more year. 1 Quote
cberkas Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Sounds like Misa will make the Sharks roster or at the very least the spot is for him to take Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, beastandco said: If some of these top draft picks go to college, UND should be able to land one of them. If most of them do not come to college, UND will be fine because they have already added two elite CHL players. At this point, I do not think that more than a couple of first round picks from this year will come over. All it takes is for Bryn to get one yes and that is what I am optimistic about. We should see a bat signal soon. It is only a matter of time. I did scroll through Bryns instagram following the other day and he did follow some 2023 and 2024 draft picks playing in Europe. That is something to watch but I believe most of those leagues in Europe are considered pro. If they haven't signed a pro deal in Europe, they can play pro games as an affiliate player & remain NCAA eligible. Tom Willander (2023 Vancouver 1st) played a couple pro games for Rogle but had never signed a pro deal and was able to still play at Boston University. 1 Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, scpa0305 said: I’m next to certain the plan for Schultz was to always go back and play another year of juniors. If he’s going to play awhile it will because of his O game. Anyone with his best interests in mind would push that. His year last season was very up and down. Nice player, but he definitely needs one more year. For every Brodzinski (Johnny, not the others) or Dorwart who somehow jumps from pedestrian numbers in Juniors to being a star in college, there are hundreds of examples to the contrary. Anyone telling Schultz he is ready for college is delusional. Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, scpa0305 said: I’m next to certain the plan for Schultz was to always go back and play another year of junior. If he’s going to play awhile it will because of his O game. Anyone with his best interests in mind would push that. His year last season was very up and down. Nice player, but he definitely needs one more year. The general rule of thumb (Schloss and others have talked about it) is you want guys to dominate the level they're at before taking the next jump up a level. Schultz needs to dominate junior in some sort of fashion before entering the NCAA, he hasn't done that yet. 1 Quote
atxsioux Posted July 5 Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: For every Brodzinski (Johnny, not the others) or Dorwart who somehow jumps from pedestrian numbers in Juniors to being a star in college, there are hundreds of examples to the contrary. Anyone telling Schultz he is ready for college is delusional. Unfortunately think there are a decent amount of advisors for players that can act semi-delusional Quote
beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 I wonder if Bryn looks at Nolan DuPont as a potential target. He put up good numbers in the AJHL and looks to be a guy that will play four years in college as a depth guy with some upside. He put up much better numbers than Dalton Andrew this year than Andrew did at the same age in a similar league. He is a solid player that could play a bottom 6 role. Obviously, the main reason why he should be a target is because of Landon. UND seems to be a huge player in the Landon DuPont market. Landon and both of his parents follow UND hockey. A lot of people, including Schloss, believe we have a legitimate shot at landing him. I personally think it would be a good idea to go after Nolan as well. 1 Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 10 minutes ago, beastandco said: I wonder if Bryn looks at Nolan DuPont as a potential target. He put up good numbers in the AJHL and looks to be a guy that will play four years in college as a depth guy with some upside. He put up much better numbers than Dalton Andrew this year than Andrew did at the same age in a similar league. He is a solid player that could play a bottom 6 role. Obviously, the main reason why he should be a target is because of Landon. UND seems to be a huge player in the Landon DuPont market. Landon and both of his parents follow UND hockey. A lot of people, including Schloss, believe we have a legitimate shot at landing him. I personally think it would be a good idea to go after Nolan as well. I think I read on HFBoards or Twitter awhile back that Wisconsin was targeting Nolan DuPont (in hopes of luring Landon too), but Wisconsin is the one program in the country where I don't have a good read on what the hell they're doing. Hastings clearly has his philosophy of mostly older rosters with gritty Minnesotans and Canadians, but he should be able to get far more high end guys now that he's the Badgers coach. Problem for them is that Wisconsin's athletic department doesn't give a s**t; about hockey when they really should, at least to the extent of being in the tournament every year & consistent contention. Quote
beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 32 minutes ago, nascar99 said: I think I read on HFBoards or Twitter awhile back that Wisconsin was targeting Nolan DuPont (in hopes of luring Landon too), but Wisconsin is the one program in the country where I don't have a good read on what the hell they're doing. Hastings clearly has his philosophy of mostly older rosters with gritty Minnesotans and Canadians, but he should be able to get far more high end guys now that he's the Badgers coach. Problem for them is that Wisconsin's athletic department doesn't give a s**t; about hockey when they really should, at least to the extent of being in the tournament every year & consistent contention. DuPont and Wisconsin would be an odd fit. Nolan DuPont is probably receiving a lot of NCAA interest to lure his younger brother as well. If he wasn’t Landon’s older brother, he would be more of a CCHA prospect. I would be surprised if UND wasn’t heavily in the mix on Landon. If taking Nolan meant getting Landon for 1-2 years, it would be worth it (obviously). I know Landon is also close with Cooper Williams, that helps I wonder if we see more and more 16/17 year old CHL kids commit this summer or wait until their CHL season is complete. I could see Carson Carels committing to UND soon. I would be somewhat surprised if he didn’t end up here. Barring any decommitments, we only have 1-2 forward spots open a year from now. Williams, Simpson, and McKamey are locked in with the other 2/3 freshman spots going to Schultz, O’Neil, Sanderson, and new recruits. Quote
cberkas Posted July 5 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, nascar99 said: I think I read on HFBoards or Twitter awhile back that Wisconsin was targeting Nolan DuPont (in hopes of luring Landon too), but Wisconsin is the one program in the country where I don't have a good read on what the hell they're doing. Hastings clearly has his philosophy of mostly older rosters with gritty Minnesotans and Canadians, but he should be able to get far more high end guys now that he's the Badgers coach. Problem for them is that Wisconsin's athletic department doesn't give a s**t; about hockey when they really should, at least to the extent of being in the tournament every year & consistent contention. I'm waiting for that place to burndown, you get the ick on HFBoards Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 8 minutes ago, beastandco said: DuPont and Wisconsin would be an odd fit. Nolan DuPont is probably receiving a lot of NCAA interest to lure his younger brother as well. If he wasn’t Landon’s older brother, he would be more of a CCHA prospect. I would be surprised if UND wasn’t heavily in the mix on Landon. If taking Nolan meant getting Landon for 1-2 years, it would be worth it (obviously). I know Landon is also close with Cooper Williams, that helps I wonder if we see more and more 16/17 year old CHL kids commit this summer or wait until their CHL season is complete. I could see Carson Carels committing to UND soon. I would be somewhat surprised if he didn’t end up here. Barring any decommitments, we only have 1-2 forward spots open a year from now. Williams, Simpson, and McKamey are locked in with the other 2/3 freshman spots going to Schultz, O’Neil, Sanderson, and new recruits. Sanderson might not come in until 2027-28 unless he really dominates in junior this upcoming season, which I just don't see happening. In this new world, you gotta expect at least 1-2 transfers and 1-2 decommitments every season/calendar year. As others have mentioned, Pilgrim might not make it to UND, although he could play 2 more years of junior if he's willing to do that. Carson Carels, Daxon Rudolph, Ryan Lin are all high end defenseman options from the Dub, in the case that DuPont goes elsewhere or doesn't go NCAA. Quote
beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 8 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Sanderson might not come in until 2027-28 unless he really dominates in junior this upcoming season, which I just don't see happening. In this new world, you gotta expect at least 1-2 transfers and 1-2 decommitments every season/calendar year. As others have mentioned, Pilgrim might not make it to UND, although he could play 2 more years of junior if he's willing to do that. Carson Carels, Daxon Rudolph, Ryan Lin are all high end defenseman options from the Dub, in the case that DuPont goes elsewhere or doesn't go NCAA. There might be more players than we realize that do not make it to campus. I would be surprised if Pilgrim makes it unless he waits until he ages out of juniors. We will likely go hard after a couple of forwards in next year’s transfer window as we only have Menghini for that class. Hopefully we do not lose any underclassman forwards to the portal that are in our top 9. If we can get one or two of DuPont, Carels, Rudolph, or Lin that would be a win. It will be a busy summer/fall for Bryn on the recruiting trail for defenseman. I believe we only have Lindberg on our committed list for defenseman. There will be lots of turnover after this year for defenseman as a few guys will turn pro. 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, beastandco said: I wonder if Bryn looks at Nolan DuPont as a potential target. He put up good numbers in the AJHL and looks to be a guy that will play four years in college as a depth guy with some upside. He put up much better numbers than Dalton Andrew this year than Andrew did at the same age in a similar league. He is a solid player that could play a bottom 6 role. Obviously, the main reason why he should be a target is because of Landon. UND seems to be a huge player in the Landon DuPont market. Landon and both of his parents follow UND hockey. A lot of people, including Schloss, believe we have a legitimate shot at landing him. I personally think it would be a good idea to go after Nolan as well. I actually agree here. He’s actually a decent player. Not sure he cracks our lineup this year but he may have a role his upper class years. Would lock up Landon too for 1-2 years. Im hearing Schaefer may play a year of college puck. Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I actually agree here. He’s actually a decent player. Not sure he cracks our lineup this year but he may have a role his upper class years. Would lock up Landon too for 1-2 years. Im hearing Schaefer may play a year of college puck. Are we hearing NCHC, B1G, or Hockey East? Would certainly make sense considering he's played so little the past calendar year, and the jump from junior to the NHL is insanely large if you haven't even dominated junior yet. I thought I saw a Schaefer to NCHC rumor a couple months ago, although that might have just been speculation. Regardless, the New York (adjacent) media/Long Islanders will find a way to freak out about Schaefer not playing for the Islanders right away. Quote
atxsioux Posted July 5 Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I actually agree here. He’s actually a decent player. Not sure he cracks our lineup this year but he may have a role his upper class years. Would lock up Landon too for 1-2 years. Im hearing Schaefer may play a year of college puck. Any link to this news. I’ve only seen that he intends to play in the NHL. Same story as Misa. Granted tho, Based on this draft class being weaker I’ve heard a few peeps like Chris Peters and Cam Robinson mention even those guys could probably use 1 more year of development. They’ve both run out of challenges in the CHL so college would make the most sense. 1 Quote
beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 10 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I actually agree here. He’s actually a decent player. Not sure he cracks our lineup this year but he may have a role his upper class years. Would lock up Landon too for 1-2 years. Im hearing Schaefer may play a year of college puck. We need 2-3 forwards to stay four years in every class and he is a guy that can come in with limited expectations and find a role for himself. We saw Michigan do this with Luca Fantilli and they were able to get Adam as well. Regarding Schaefer, I heard he might go to Denver as a Zeev replacement. NCAA is good for defenseman development and there is no rush to win in Long Island. He could use a year in college after playing half of the year last season. 1 Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, beastandco said: We need 2-3 forwards to stay four years in every class and he is a guy that can come in with limited expectations and find a role for himself. We saw Michigan do this with Luca Fantilli and they were able to get Adam as well. Regarding Schaefer, I heard he might go to Denver as a Zeev replacement. NCAA is good for defenseman development and there is no rush to win in Long Island. He could use a year in college after playing half of the year last season. That's what I saw/read as well. Would make the Pioneers even scarier. Quote
beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, nascar99 said: That's what I saw/read as well. Would make the Pioneers even scarier. I just read a little bit about his plans for next year and when he was asked about college during development camp he said that he plans to work as hard as he can this summer to be in Long Island. It does not really seem like college is in play. With that being said, a year of college would be best for his development, imo. 1 Quote
nascar99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Wyatt Cullen (late 2008, NTDP) is eligible to commit August 1. Are we assuming he's going to lean Michigan State since his brother Brooks committed there? Moorhead family, dad Matt played at St Cloud State, interested to see where this goes. 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, nascar99 said: Are we hearing NCHC, B1G, or Hockey East? Would certainly make sense considering he's played so little the past calendar year, and the jump from junior to the NHL is insanely large if you haven't even dominated junior yet. I thought I saw a Schaefer to NCHC rumor a couple months ago, although that might have just been speculation. Regardless, the New York (adjacent) media/Long Islanders will find a way to freak out about Schaefer not playing for the Islanders right away. I’m not sure…DU would make some sense Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 25 minutes ago, nascar99 said: Wyatt Cullen (late 2008, NTDP) is eligible to commit August 1. Are we assuming he's going to lean Michigan State since his brother Brooks committed there? Moorhead family, dad Matt played at St Cloud State, interested to see where this goes. Yes, as of now he’s going MSU. 1 Quote
beastandco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Yes, as of now he’s going MSU. Brooks’ production is underwhelming, especially for being committed to one of college hockey’s elites. I believe the younger Cullens are two of the best Americans in their age group. We will see what happens. Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, beastandco said: Brooks’ production is underwhelming, especially for being committed to one of college hockey’s elites. I believe the younger Cullens are two of the best Americans in their age group. We will see what happens. As of now they’re all going there. Obv coaching changes can change things. 2 Quote
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