gundy1124
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I agree with those that feel this doesn't necessarily mean the kid has questionable character. Most of us by Wednesday this week will have forgotten about him for the most part and we will get somebody else. However for this kid, this is a HUGE decision for the next 5 years and the rest of his life. We all still have ties to UND years later....even if we didn't play a sport.......where you go play college football is something you will have for life. From what I gathered he had kind of wanted to go to SDSU, yes he did verbally commit to us......but then when he did actually get an offer from where he really wanted to go you can't totally judge him on that. Well you can judge him if you want, but I think it's unfair. There are a lot of things that go into the decision, many personal things which we no almost none of. And sounds like he may have gotten more scholarship. Also if we are going to question his character, we better judge the character of any other player than changes over to us in the future. Some here are now saying if a kid doesn't produce on the field we should pull their scholarship. That is big time hypocritical that we could pull our commitment to a kid once it's written, but a kid gets bad mouthed if he changes on a verbal well before the signing period.
Given all of that I sure hope we make him regret the decision football wise, and that UND is more successful than SDSU the next 5 years.
I think you are blending apples and oranges. We just had an offensive tackle that is no longer on the team. He and his Dad took it as men in a real world where performance matters.......and when you play college football, performance on the field matters. The coaches have tough calls to make every day, and the team's performance dictates their careers. Each player decision takes on a world of it's own. Next time you want the coaching staff to keep all players throughout their careers regardless of performance go out and hire someone to work for you on a 4-5 year commitment and tell them it's guaranteed, or is that not reality. If you want to prepare these young men for the future, then let's be real about it.
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I agree that UND hasn't been a high pressure school. Would you still go after the SDSU commits? They also gave their word. It can't be a character flaw for those who change their mind and go elsewhere but not a character flaw for those who change their mind and come here. I also wonder who confirmed he committed to us? I believe he did but did the kid confirm it? I only read about it on a blog. The info is often assumed cuz of tweets or twitters. Others have made the point: They aren't committed til they are signed. Others bring up the valid point that if a kid commits then it changes who else we go after and with what kind of an offer. We can't forget nothing is binding til we have the signature.
Once a player commits elsewhere I think we should be hands off. But, we can't be seen as unwilling to engage another school that 'throws the 1st punch'. If this was a one time deal and we were aware the kid was really torn between the schools, then no big deal.
It happened so quick I think Schmitty will obviously find another guy. The way this staff recruits all year long into the summer is impressive.
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if you had a job and another company called and offered you a 50% raise, would you turn it down because you gave your company your word?
I would have went to both interviews then made my decision........it's not like SDSU was some foreign entity that was unknown.
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So Dakota Prukop, this Dakota Prukop, is getting a sniff from Oregon and Alabama?
They gave 150,000%, and we still beat them........good win for us.
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"we only want guys that really want to be here"? Maybe the kid wanted a school that "really wanted him to play for them". You know nothing of the kids character or personality. I think he wanted to come here after his visit but he changed his mind with a better offer. Maybe he needed the extra money, who knows? We have one of the best freshman hockey players in the country who changed his mind. Do you question his character? These are high school kids. Maybe we should just wish them luck and hope we didn't offer more was because we have someone better. Some of you guys seem to take these things as a personal affront. That is a bit much.
I still think a commit's word means something, I would hope an 18 year old understands that. This day and age, who knows.......
I atleast will call it a lack of foresight in not taking both visits first, then giving a commitment. UND isn't a high pressure school with commitments.
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We only want guys that really want to be here. Flippers or usually floppers. I have no idea how good he was, but we don't need those type of personality characteristics. Don't need to waste one second of my thoughts on him.
I agree, but we should be going after some SDSU commits, if nothing else just to make the Jacks aware and keep them thinking about going up against a full stipend school. Let's take the gloves off.
And......make them pay full price for their guys.
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NDSU has to get past UNI today......not an easy task.
it will happen, last second with a deflected pass and 4 defensive penalties on UNI, sound about right?
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I think a lot of people had Illinois State in the semis. I guess you had Richmond?
Personally, I wanted to see if NDSU could win a playoff game on the road. The NDSU @ Illinois St. would have been fun to watch.
didn't matter the team, Illinois St. was going to choke it away. I can't be the only one.....
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And Richmond puts NDSU at home next week......was there ever a doubt this would happen?
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Look at the box score to see who played for Drake in those two games.
Ya, we physically beat the hell out of Drake, they had guys laying all over the field and they sat out the following week(s).
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Ya it seems to be working really well. Trying to convince starters to play for no money is getting craig alot of good pub. I'm sure recruits will flock.
Bohl should have plenty of money, 23 more full rides than FCS?? I think it's more of a challenge at FCS schools, managing money.
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Is that why they waited for a highlight film until after he was signed?
Coaches absolutely kept Grady as low profile as they could. They talked about it at signing day.
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Don't be surprised is there is no scholarship QB this year.
That could only mean they really like Heidlebaugh, behind Studsrud of course. Studrud Jr./Sr. 2016/2017 and 2018 Heidlebaugh would be a Jr.
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Create attention? There's a whole list of offers out there and recruits making visits by everyone...not exactly cloak and dagger stuff here.
You can put a dread lock wig on and trade your entire draft away for one player in a big public display, or you can do it the way we do it.
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Am i missing something...seem strange there's no offers and no visits for a QB?
Obviously we know it's a need. Why create attention if a target or two is flying under the radar.......
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I'd say TE if anything, more receiving than blocking, but could do both.
I can't remember who called this. Joe was and probably still is a good hoops player, which translates well to the short patterns, quick separations, and the hands in traffic a TE needs. I think after the departure of Adler the TE position has the biggest drop off in talent of all positions on our roster. This could really help. Different position, different mind set, and a new opportunity, good for Joe!!
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I think your overestimating what it is doing to UNI. I also get a kick out of the reasoning that it is some sort of huge advantage because UNI has to spend time preparing for two quarterbacks. Doesn't it have a similar effect on NDSU since they have two guys splitting first team reps, one who's never faced UNI or a defense that good and another who hasn't taken a snap in two months?
oh no, UNI has to spend 20 seconds on telling the defense what number Wentz is when he comes in for a decoy on the jet motion!!
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This is going to come off as smack and it's a difficult question to ask this passionate group, but does seeing the lack of Big Sky success in the playoffs do anything to temper the excitement of what I consider to be a successful season for you guys?
I hope that doesn't come across as an a-hole question, I'm sure it has crossed a few of your minds this morning. It would mine if the tables were turned.
BTW, I was actually impressed with PSU last night, it's hard to gauge a game that's played in such crappy conditions though.
I am not overly concerned cause UND is building a program like a successful MVC team. Once our offense got going we were well rounded other than the pass defense on occasion. Portland St. could stop the pass better than the run, they had a good team to play in the Big Sky, but UND took it to them, not surprised UNI did, too. I think UND with their run D would have been a tougher matchup for UNI.
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UNI leads 23-17 with about 11:00. great game in the rain.
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I said it so now the SU guys don't need to point it out, cause we are aware.
If the Big Fluff doesn't start making a push in the playoffs, it will hurt our bubble teams.
UNI has been hot since their middle of the year slump, much like UND was playing.
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In case you haven't noticed, when NDSU gets a big lead, they get conservative and runnthe ball even when teams have 8 or 9 in the box. See the UND game, SDSU game among others. They like to run clock when their defense has proven rhe ability to completely shut down the other teams offense. UND.
Santiago may be the best back in the FCS when he has a clean hole or a clear path to the outside, but he isn't breaking many tackles or running over people. When you are dodging 2 or 3 d-lineman like he was against NDSU, it is tough to get going. I don't see why a rematch would be any different. NDSU's front seven manhandled your o-line. It would happen again.
straight from our QB, who makes the protection checks. "My guards, tackles, and backs could not hear me".
We barely blocked anyone and our coaching staff failed us. I said after the game we should have ran our pistol/ shotgun run package, which we did in every other game, a similar package that USD runs, the one that had no issues with the noise or Bison defense. Also, Clive was out so we could have used him to stretch the field. Anyway, we got smoked but I put it more on the game plan and stubbornness of scheme than the players getting 'manhandled'.
UND vs. NDSU round 2 would be much closer just as NDSU vs. Griz will be a different game (although I hope not)
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Gundy, I think it is a cultural difference. Do you want a culture of one where if you come into the program, bust your butt for us and if we don't have the ability to develop your talent or maybe you aren't good enough to crack the starting lineup we dump you? If a player is clearly not going to be able to play they need to sit down with the player and review how they see things and outline what the player needs to do to get on the field. If the player can't do that, then many of them will transfer out and hopefully appreciate the opportunity. This staff kept both of these QB's knowing they had made the decsion that Keaton was their guy last December. They did that cuz they didn't want to take a chance on Keaton not being able to handle the job, the fact they didnt' know if Joe would be healed and the fact that both Ryan and Joe had played well at times. Those 2 seniors were loyal to the program and deserve to be part of this. You can also have a culture where if we aren't going to need you we cut you. Those programs don't tend to have the same culture and loyalty to the program in the long run, but teams can win either way. If they cut either of these guys after they stayed loyal to the program, that would tell me something about the integrity and class or lack therof of our staff. If they cut either one of these guys, then Bubba needs to stop the family and love rhetoric and simply coach and keep building things as he sees fit. I dont't give a rats butt if they were Mussman recruits, they are UND recruits, not Mussman recruits. It is too bad that one of these guys never got a chance to play again yet has been blasted time and again on this blog. All he ever did was choose UND and do as he was asked in a time when we didn't have a running game, or oline. Got hurt for us , rehabbed then came back supportive of his teammates and coaches, and you are actually considering we would cut him? Sorry but until now that hasn't been UND FB.
As always, you provide great perspective. I get greedy and want things both ways sometimes. I will support the team however it plays out.
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*would it be wrong if Bubba and Co. pursued former USD and MSU recruits now that there are no coaches at those schools?
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We should go after anyone we want, until a recruit makes it clear that he is not interested one bit. If we target MSU recruits, or any other Big Sky recruits, we should be sure to mention the stipend in a humble way. With a 7-4 season, FBS win, a hungry and young team, a recruiting advantage with stipend $$, new practice facility, high-end academics, we should crush it recruiting wise. Did I mention the stipend advantage.......
Does the stipend start from this point forward or is it retroactive to all scholarships?? UND, NDSU, USD, SDSU, and a school out east have it, correct?
Like SDSU protects the recruits south of them, we need to protect the Canadian kids north of us.
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100% agree. Word gets around in recruiting when coaches pull scholarships from guys like Mollberg and Bartels. UND made a commitment to those two and they have been good teammates, students and citizens from everything I have heard. They also have both been starters within the last 1.5 seasons. I would be very surprised if Bubba did that.
or, you could look at it as football roster tenure, creating an atmosphere of complacency. I never said it is easy, I never said these guys were bad teammates or students, what I am saying is I would like a shot at the next Ratelle or Reyes by having money available. I am not trying to offend anyone, this goes for any player on the roster not holding up their end of the deal, and part of that deal is being on the field. If Ja'won Arrinton was a junior I suppose some here would want him to stay another year on a full ride..........not me.
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Coach Schweigert on the radio. Really feel for the guy. I have mostly stayed out of the discussion regarding the playoffs. I don't watch enough FCS football to say for certain who should or should not be in.
A.) 24 is too many. If you are taking a 6-5 team, At-Large, that's embarrassing for everyone. They should honestly go back to 16 or 20.
B.) I only watched about 7 quarters of UND football this year (a bit of Drake, half of NDSU, and I went to Idaho St). So I literally saw pretty much the worst of the worst UND had to offer this season.
C.) I don't like how many teams are in the Big Sky. It's very difficult to tell who is good and who is not.
D.) From reading in a few different forums, looks like you guys got jobbed but as some others have said, win those "easy" games and take it out if the committees hands.
C.) The following will help. Big Sky should have an east and west. Play all the teams on your side and a game or two with the other side. Then, for the last week of the FCS regular season, east vs. west get seeded and play each other!! 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, and so on. (Need an even number teams obviously). This would be revolutionary for FCS. Too crazy??
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Looks like a free safety. 6'5", wow!! He's not that far off from being ready to play.