Benny Baker
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On 11/11/2022 at 10:03 AM, Benny Baker said:
Important to remember that NIL has only been around since July 1, 2021 though.
I think this is worth repeating.
For anyone not concerned about NIL, I fear that is the same mentality UND had when it neglected to transition to DI when a few other Dakota schools did.
Keep up with the joneses or expect to fall behind …
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29 minutes ago, SiouxScore said:
I don't think NIL is near as big of factor in college hockey recruiting as a lot of people think. The NIL focus is going to football and basketball primarily from boosters. At a place like Minnesota it finds it way to some hockey but I know Minnesota's NIL is still kind of getting its feet wet and not real solid yet. The top guys that are hyped coming in like a Cooley, Eichel, or thinking back to a guy like Toews or Kessel are probably getting NIL deals from hockey companies no matter where they go. If you think boosters at Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Arizona State, etc. are focused on getting their money to hockey recruits you'd be disappointed to find out where hockey is on their priority list.
What do you mean “Minnesota’s NIL”? My understanding is that NILs need to be independent (at least financially) from the school. This is why most people are concerned that NIL will serve to benefit the Big 10/larger schools the most because they pump out 50k grads a year.
That is why Michigan already has NIL programs like:
-the licensing and apparel agreement with the Brandr Group
-the Victors Exchange program that matches businesses with student athletes
-the champions collective, see above
-Wolverine+, the sports subscription program that pays players.
Hell, every Florida Atlantic female athlete is getting paid by the Florida Panthers.
So the idea is not that FAU, Michigan, Minnesota, or even North Dakota would be paying their players. Instead, we need someone with the initiative to set up an exchange where:
-Jeff Tellman pays Gaber to send out tweets every Friday night to promote Grinders after the Game
-Wes Rydell pays Kleven to star in a commercial promoting Rydell Chevrolet
-[current siouxsports.com user/business owner] pays [that recruit they’re really hoping UND gets] to promote their business.
Like the folks at Michigan, can anyone tell me what UND is trying to do to get ahead of the game in NIL?
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13 hours ago, Benny Baker said:
Important to remember that NIL has only been around since July 1, 2021 though.
11 hours ago, tnt said:But can you do better than all the first round draft picks BU has had in their lineup?
The conversation was about NIL …
But yeah, to answer your question and to bring the conversation full circle back to where it started with Aiden Park and Michigan, last year’s Michigan team had the NCAA record for first round draft picks, not any BU team.
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12 hours ago, tnt said:
That’s why BU is always beating out Duluth and Mankato. Oh, wait…
Important to remember that NIL has only been around since July 1, 2021 though.
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Since we're talking jerseys and prices, I'll make my yearly post that I'm still looking to purchase an authentic white Nike jersey (2002-2009ish)!
I'm happy to overpay. You just need to PM me and name your price! Also, I have a few white gemini Geo's I could add to purchase price or include in a trade ...
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15 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:
You’re saying MN kids who didn’t play SSM haven’t produced? I must be missing something.
Maybe he means straight from MN high school to college??!??! If so, not many kids are successful with that route, so okay sure, I agree.
If not, I won’t go back all 20 years, and reasonable minds will disagree on this next one, but the Gophers did have a Hobey Hat Trick finalist (Ben Meyers) from the metro literally just last season…
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We beat out more than 20 schools for Matej Tomek.
Glad DeRidder has experience at this level though.
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9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Given the history pointed out here, asking Spicer to go to the USHL for a season was prudent for his development.
Dare I say Spicer’s decision to my eyes is imprudent.
Right? If I recall correctly, seeing how similar their stat lines were during their last year at NTDP and how things have shaped out for all three of them since then is rather telling of how things could go for Spicer.
However, I think I’d roll the dice with a freshman Spicer over a senior Budy.
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35 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:
Like I said and corrected, I meant to say/should have said he would have been the youngest since Toews (although I missed Cag). It was meant to be a comp between Spicer and Toews. Sorry for the confusion.
David Toews might be the better comparison. (June birthday before his 18-year old freshman season). Guys like D Toews, Brad Malone, Michael Forney, and Drake Caggiula all had birthdays within a month of Spicer’s before their 18-year old freshman seasons. Worked out for some; not for others.
Jonny Toews is a different ballpark. He played his LAST game at UND as an 18-year old.
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8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Can someone tell me how Budy is still around but Spicer was allowed to walk??
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1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said:
The point of my 18 year old comp was about him being the youngest player since Toews (I didn't realize Cag was younger) to come in to UND, making that talent rare. Schmaltz, Cag, Boeser are all good examples. No need to overthink this.
I’m not.
13 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:We just wanted the kid, who would be the first 18 year old forward to come into UND since Jonny Toews, to play one more year in junior. Spicer made his decision.
A few people (myself included) were confused by your claim that Spicer would have been the first 18-year old forward at UND since Toews.
I was only pointing out that there have been numerous 18-year old forwards at UND recently.
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1 hour ago, stoneySIOUX said:
Sorry, Cag was a week younger. I'm saying is one of the youngest. My point is that that age is typically reserved for players that are, with the exception of Hain, first round talent (yes, I understand Cag was undrafted). I'm saying I don't think Spicer is that player. We'll see.
I think everyone agrees with you that Spicer isn’t that player. I think others disagree that being an 18-year old freshman is rare.
Hain was 18 (2 months older than Spicer); Caulfield was 18 (3 months older); Mishmash was 18 (4 months older). Those are just the most recent players coming from the NTDP, like Spicer would have. None of them were first rounders, but all 18 year-old freshman.
But seeing where Hain, Caulfield, and Mishmash are at in their careers, perhaps Spicer could use another year.
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7 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
Okay, but a forward coming in at 18 years old has happened quite a few times over the years. It's really not that rare.
Exactly. Spicer would have been yet another 18-year old freshman. Not rare at all.
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7 hours ago, SiouxBoys said:
What do you mean by this?
2 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:Had Spicer come in next year, he'd be the youngest forward since Toews to play for UND. Spicer isn't Toews. He's not ready.
Not really though. Plenty of 18-year old forwards recently. Boeser, Hain, Schmaltz, Caggiula, and the list goes on. Moreover, Caggiula has a later June birthday than Spicer.
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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:
Is Kleven better than Sanderson and JBD?
If not, ... sing it Wierd Al ...
That's what I don't get?
Seems like his options are to either live in Belleville, Ontario playing the AHL circuit or playing in his home state in front of his Dad for one more year. Seems like a no brainer to me.
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13 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Not quite ... 1990 to 1998. (But 2016 to 2023 would be gettin' up there.)
Or are you saying if not in 2023 they tie (because 2016 to 2024 would be the tie).The latter point was what I had intended to convey. Took me by surprise by how much of a frozen four dry spell they’re currently in for BC standards.
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3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
Why'd the words "Boston" and "University" just pop into my head?
However, it is rather disturbing that Wisconsin and Boston College had descended rather quickly. If it can happen to those two, anyone is susceptible.
Crazy to think, but if Boston College does not make the 2023 Frozen Four, it will tie their longest drought in school history without a frozen four appearance.
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7 minutes ago, SiouxFanatic said:
Saw some speculation on Twitter that Minnesota’s Chaz Lucius might leave there for new place to play. That would be intriguing imo.
Really?!? I thought the Lucius brothers committed to UofM in utero.
Wonder what gives to make the change now after all these years?
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4 hours ago, farce poobah said:
Jack LaFontaine will see your one (1) game, and raise you by one (1), to two (2) games in the NHL.
With a .780 save pct and a 7.20 GAA, he may not be back.
9 goals against in 75 minutes!!!
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1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:
Sure the BIG will get more of the high end young kids that are 1-2 year players but that creates its own set of problems, see: Boston University & Wisconsin's unbalanced classes.
SCSU had 3 freshman and 3 sophomores see ice time this season. About as unbalanced as a team is going to get.
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2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:
Man, this Frozen Four is shaping up to be a total nightmare unless Minnesota State wins it.
100%. The last 3 teams I want to see winning a title each season are:
Minnesota (because it’s Minnesota)
Michigan (9)
Denver (8)
Also, UND really dropped the ball on making the 2022 frozen four a battle between old 1950s WCHA foes and NCAA heavyweights. What a shame.
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15 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:
My kid wants to play for Michigan now as his dream school…that only recently happened
After all, he is “elite”, right? Sounds like he’ll fit in great.
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1 minute ago, Cratter said:
And I asked how they knew what was going on during that time since they weren't around.
I didn't say if the info was false.
Gotcha.
I guess like he said, it’s possible to be a lurker. I’m on this site (and was before I had an account) multiple times a day for the past 15 years, but probably have less posts than most of you.
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1 minute ago, Cratter said:
This has nothing to do with what I wrote but if you want my opinion....
It seems the key is.....
Hak as recruiter.
Berry as coach.
Yes, it does. I was confirming the post you responded to; i.e., what you wrote.
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Gotcha. Sounds like Minnesota has several NILs started then.
Can anyone name one of UND’s?